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I haven’t read the whole thread so it may be mentioned but how many penalties have there been against us? I was at Coventry for the last City penalty, it was one minute into stoppage time. Six minutes into the second half Coventry were awarded a penalty.

Rovers miss penalty 64 mins

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On average, depending on the source, there are 0.21 to 0.28 penalties per game. Assuming an even distribution that should mean 0.105 to 0.14 penalties per team per match. At least one per team every 10 games!

Coventry keeper Ben Wilson warming up looks to have some injury

Joe Jordan’s side. North Sea blowing onto the uncovered away end, dodgy referee, 1-0 defeat, what’s not to like?

Stockport away March 1983 may have been another instance of us bringing the wrong kit. If I recall we borrowed a very odd yellow based kit that Stockport’s reserves provided at late notice. Tony Harling didn’t miss his chance …. “Terry Coopers multi-coloured army” was another of his unique chants

I wondered why so many fans were leaving early and then I realised that they had all headed round to the home end for a good natured pitch invasion

Whoops ... every diamond has its flaw (Dutch expression). A very good spot. Gary Johnson once said you can't read a table until after 10 games. Per 11vs11 from the 19th to the 22nd October we were in 92nd. There might have been an updated League table in the Wimbledon programme. Thanks.

On Friday 3rd of December 1982 Crewe Alexandra drew 1-1 at home to Torquay United. Like Tranmere Rovers and Stockport County at that time, Crewe often played home fixtures on a Friday night in order to draw higher crowds than they would attract on a Saturday due to nearby clubs in the first division. This point for Crewe took them above Bristol City on goal difference. City took their place at the bottom of League Division Four and found themselves in 92nd place at the foot of the Football League. The previous three seasons The 1979/80 season started promisingly with City 6th in the top flight, then called League Division One, in September. Liverpool soon overtook City and went on to win the league, while at the other end City ended up in the final relegation spot with 9 wins and 13 draws resulting in 31 points out of 42 games. They finished four points behind Everton but ahead of Derby County and Bolton Wanderers. The 1980/81 season also ended with relegation. City finished second bottom, seven points ahead of Bristol Rovers. Their tally of 30 points from 7 wins and 16 draws was notable for the fact that City managed more points than goals scored (29). This would be the last time any team would do so before three points for a win was introduced the following season. Cardiff City in 19th place finished above relegated Preston North End on goal difference, both teams finishing 6 points ahead of City. West Ham United were champions, promoted together with Notts Counts and Swansea City. The 1981/82 season saw a record breaking third consecutive relegation. Although they secured 11 points from the last 5 games, City finished with 46 points from 46 games with 11 wins and 13 draws in the first season with three points for a win. City finished in 23rd place, 14 points ahead of Chester and seven points below Walsall who finished above relegated Wimbledon on goal difference, who in turn finished one point ahead of Swindon Town. The champions Burnley were promoted together with Carlisle and Fulham. Bristol Rovers finished 14th on 61 points having been deducted two points for fielding an ineligible player. Rochdale away 4 December 1982 This was Bristol City’s first ever match against Rochdale in the Football League. Programme signed by John Shaw Rochdale came into the game just one point ahead of Bristol City thanks to a 3-2 away win at Torquay United the previous week. Due to the 7:30 kick-off in Torquay the supporters coach had planned to travel via Ashton Gate to watch City’s 3 o’ clock fixture against Colchester United. As it happened that weather conditions prevented them from making a scheduled journey break in Bristol to witness Colchester’s 0-2 win in front of a crowd of 4,310. In the programme notes it was reported that after the game the supporters coach gave four stranded Dale fans a lift back to Rochdale on the Saturday night and reminded supporters that this was a one-off. Despite best efforts from a determined Bristol City, the game was decided by a late strike from Dale’s Peter Farrell, his first of the season, that barely had the power to reach the net. The away following at Spotland was sparse. Rounding up, there were an estimated fifty City supporters including the four in my group who had travelled the relatively short distance from Liverpool to be among the crowd of 1,307. The previous Saturday the same group had been on the Kop watching Dalglish score twice in a 3-0 mauling of Tottenham Hotspur. The contrast with Spotland could hardly have been greater. Grass was growing on the terraces and various building materials were stored in the away end for this encounter sponsored by Apex Steeplejacks. The gents’ toilet block included a design classic gap in the brickwork so you could actually watch the came while using the urinals. There were no queues for the ladies’ toilets! The matchday programme underplayed the circumstances somewhat by mentioning that “City had problems last season when at one time it looked as though they would go out of business”. Terry Cooper the ex-Leeds United player was the player manager. Goalkeeper John Shaw (who by 1982 had alopecia) and Tom Ritchie (who ended the season with 12 goals) were part of the team that played in the first division from 1976 to 1980. Glyn Riley, was top scorer with 16 having joined on a free from Barnsley. Rob Newman was the pick of the youngsters having made his debut earlier in the year. He spent a decade at Ashton Gate, leaving him seventh on the all-time appearance chart. He joined Norwich City and played his part in the defeat of Bayern Munich in the UEFA Cup, a career highlight. Special mention should be made of Tony Harling. A dedicated fan from the London Supporters Branch, sporting his distinctive City bucket hat he was notable for his solo chants. Without any sense of irony, he belted out “I’ve heard more noise in a trappist monastery”. Forbes Phillipson-Masters’ booking on what was his second appearance for the club was notable for the extended time taken by the referee to record his name in the book and the moment gave rise to the rarely heard chant “one Forbes Phillipson-Masters, there’s only one Forbes Phillipson-Masters”. A truism if ever there was one. As the game drew to its conclusion Tony let out a heartfelt rendition, to the tune of Vera Lynn’s We’ll Meet Again, of “We’ll win again, don’t know where don’t know when, but I know some sunny day we’ll win again”. Tony (aka Terry) Harling Tony in the Matchday Programme Man U H 25 April 78 On the final whistle there was a mixed reaction, the players had worked hard, it was not their day, they thanked the fans who in turn mostly applauded them off in the Lancashire rain. 40 years on, this result remains Rochdale’s only win against Bristol City. The few who were there were witnessing a City team leave the pitch in 92nd place for the first time in the club’s history. Fourteen days later City would be climbing the football league again. Touch wood, they have never come close to the bottom spot since. Re-election process until 1986 Until 1986 there was a re-election process. Clubs that finished in the bottom four places of the league structure faced a vote at the Annual General Meeting at which the League club representatives decided whether to re-elect existing members or replace them with non-League applicants. Historically, chances of re-election were good. Hartlepool United (known as Hartlepools United until 1968) survived 14 votes, including 11 in 28 seasons. Since 1958, from which date League Division Three North and South became League Division Three and Four, the following teams lost their places: 1960 Gateshead were replaced by Peterborough United 1970 Bradford Park Avenue were replaced by Cambridge United 1972 Barrow were replaced by Hereford United 1977 Workington were replaced by Wimbledon 1978 Southport were replaced by Wigan Athletic In 1962 Accrington Stanley resigned and Oxford United were elected In each case Southern teams replaced Northern teams. Bristol City finished the season well clear of the bottom four in 14th place and thus avoided having to apply for re-election. Bristol Rovers had to apply once. The 92nd days Following the defeat at Rochdale City remained 92nd in the football league, on the same points as Crewe Alexandra who had played a game less. Both teams had 14 points but City’s goal difference was minus 17 (11 worse than Crewe) after 18 games with two wins, eight draws and eight defeats. Following the Rochdale defeat City stayed at the foot of the table after losing 1-0 away at Chester City one week later. In the following campaign City would secure promotion with a 2-1 win on the last day of the season at the same ground. A 2-2 draw away to Bury on the 18th of December was enough to take City off the bottom spot one point ahead of Crewe Alexandra who had a game in hand but had lost two consecutive fixtures. In total City were 92nd for almost fifteen days. Saint and Greavsie gave the event a passing mention showing a League table from three years earlier on their show to illustrate the dramatic fall from the top division. As Bristol City did not play a home game during this time, the ignominy of taking the field in 92nd place at Ashton Gate did not happen and there was no home programme showing the team at the bottom of the football league. 1982/3 season Bristol City finished in 14th place at the end of the season which was something of a recovery. 56 points from 13 wins and 17 draws reflected a stronger finish and set up a promotion winning campaign the following year. The Division winners Wimbledon with 98 points were heading all the way to the top flight in four seasons. One of their rare defeats was a 4-2 reverse at Ashton Gate in October. Other promoted sides were Hull City, Port Vale and Scunthorpe United. At the bottom Hereford ended up in 92nd place, below Crewe Alexandra, Hartlepool United and Blackpool. All four were re-elected to the Football League. Home attendances were low. Following a 7-1 defeat at Northampton Town and a 2-0 defeat at home to Scunthorpe United, a season low crowd of 3,041 at Ashton Gate attended the 1-0 loss against Torquay United. By way of comparison, three seasons earlier 28,763 packed Ashton Gate for the league visit of Manchester United. The club had fallen a long way. Without the Ashton Gate Eight it would have been so much worse. Things got better. Acknowledgements: Wiki, 11v11.com

Thanks. It was not on the Sky Sports Score app. It is on the Sky Sports app.

Does anyone know if it is on Sky red button? Sky Sports are showing WBA vs Sheffield United at 12:30 but sometimes they have match choice on the early kick off

various accounts but it seems to be linked to playing on a Sunday. Psalm 23. I was expecting to hear the fans sing it before the game last season but if it was sung, I missed it. I have seen the words displayed on the electric perimeter boards. Did they sing it this year? https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/west-bromwich-albion/2018/09/11/chapter-and-verse-genesis-of-psalm-23-at-west-brom/

The Times today shows us both in 11th and 17th place in a 25 team league table.

Seems to be R30 and R31

Many thanks. I called up at 10:00 and they had seats, phew!

Unlikely, but in case anyone changes their mind please DM me. My son and I have always gone to this fixture.

Looks like there will be more empty seats than home fans, home attendances are not good, not good at all. here’s hoping for an additional allocation

I am a member but received no notification of any ticket sales. Did the ST holders snap up the allocation? Normally there are direct alerts and messages on the OS but during international breaks I don’t visit the OS as often. You snooze, you lose. Not looking forward to breaking this to my son when he gets home, it’s our closest away game.

TLAs ….

Any streams?

Can we see the second one please

Are there any 92 club members who know whether this match counts as you having been to Coventry City’s ground, Burton’s, both or neither?