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7 minutes ago, BCFC Grim said:

The keyboard warriors on here .  Hold my hands up and it seems to be serious today. Doesn't change the fact he goes off far too much injured

Not like you. A real warrior who doesn't need a keyboard to give it large. (Just using one today). 

10 minutes ago, BCFC Grim said:

Baker off again. He is ******* pathetic. Expect him to be fine next week.

Solid supporting there. Good man. Makes me wish there was a war, just so you could be in the trenches alongside me. 

5 minutes ago, Lordofthebling said:

Jesus... 

Ref was crap, thought we played well against probably one of the in form teams in the country.

Scott was a revelation, Wells, James, Baker and Kalas looked good.

A stupid mistake against Luton and one tonight have cost us. Silly errors no doubt Nige will get these out of us.

A game that could've gone either way, sadly it didn't go ours, but even then, I did enjoy it.

That team cares and runs and fights. Its been years since i thought that. Its a very young team, nieve in fact, but we are not a million miles off. We just don't have the options up front.

Breathe everyone. Remember our result against QPR, sometimes it does and will go our way.

Finally a bit of sanity. We were all right tonight and a lot of positives. Was a good game to watch. HNM looked good. Some panicky play at end when if we had confidence we would have held onto ball. 

8 hours ago, BCFCGav said:

10th after 10, very good. We’d have all taken that. Overall, the improvements this season have been vast.

Exactly. And if there weren’t blips like last night then we would go the rest of the season undefeated which, hopefully, everyone accepts is a little bit unlikely. 

28 minutes ago, Marcus Aurelius said:

Great goal, still a farmers league though

The champions' league? Harsh.

Clean sheet!! Remember those. 

7 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said:

Is this one better?

I actually think it is, yes. 

Look, in theory, I completely agree that TK should be in the team on ability. I've just got a feeling he wants out, and has for a while. If that's the case, best for all to move on. He's given us a lot and should probably be in a better team at this point in his career. 

1 minute ago, joe jordans teeth said:

I think today shows how much we miss him

I just can't agree. He played a lot last season in one of the worst City defences I've ever seen.

5 minutes ago, Alessandro said:

FFS - Missing a....Kalas

He is a very good defender but I just don't think - for us - he is the answer. He wasn't last season, was he.

Might be best for everyone to move on. 

16 minutes ago, Marco the red said:

Jack Hunt plays today I doubt they score that goal. Didn't have a future here but to replace him with worse players is an achievement in itself.

Disagree with the first part. Cant argue with the second - the fact that people are yearning for Jack Hunt speaks volumes about how City fans are feeling about the team. 

Queue Tony Dinning and Chris Brunt's legacy being rewritten with reference to Andy King's form. 

11 minutes ago, chinapig said:

Trouble is the alternative is a superannuated Danny Simpson.

Makes you yearn for Jack Hunt.

It really doesn't.

Yeah, good move if it happens.

Shame he didn't fancy Atalanta though. Obviously a smaller name but that team is a striker's paradise. A couple of years there and he could have been after a major transfer.

And Champions League football too. 

I read he's an arsenal fan so might be hanging out for that move.

4 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said:

Blackpool and derby are down hence why I said one 

They really aren't.

Ropey last 10 and obviously annoying end but massive improvement. With a few tweaks we will be fine.I thought that was promising.

1 hour ago, phantom said:

Never want to back the blue few but they are quoting someone else 

They are quoting the crown prosecutor. But what the CPS meant by this and what ‘victimless crime’ means in common usage are very different. It’s pretty grim to pull out that quote and base the official club statement on it. 
 

from cps website on domestic abuse:

‘’While victims are rightly at the centre of everything we do, the CPS prosecutes on behalf of the Crown and for the good of the wider public.

That means we can prosecute domestic abusers without the support or direct involvement of victims through ‘evidence-led prosecutions’ - for example relying on witness accounts or CCTV footage.’’

4 minutes ago, downendcity said:

I my have misinterpreted this, but Im sure I also read that with a CVA the various creditors have to agree by majority ( based on size of debt I think) in order that the CVA is passed, and by "selling" the largest debt to the son-in-law it meant that the son in law's  vote would carry the vote and ensure the CVA being agreed, thereby ensuring an immediate "profit" for the family. 

If so, then the owner, through the son in law, was ensuring that he ( the family) profited from the club's misfortune. It also begs the question as to whether by selling the debt in the way they did, they would benefit better and quicker with the club's demise.

As many others have said this sad situation raises many questions, particularly about the EFL's involvement in and handling of the whole situation - from the owner passing the EFL's fit and proper test despite his business track record, through to failing to see the warning signs and how they could/should have stepped in earlier to avoid the loss of a club.

Following on, as this does,  from the recent shambolic run around the EFL were given by Vila, Derby and Wednesday over "stadiumgate", and the admittance that someone cocked up the new rules by failing to transfer across the  rule that prevented sale of a stadium to a related third party, the EFL comes out of the summer looking unprofessional, inept and self-serving.

I'm not holding my breath that there will be any accountability for this catalogue of failure,

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/aug/27/bury-historic-club-football-league-financial-ruins

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/aug/23/bury-company-debt-cva-steve-dale-daughter

15 minutes ago, Robin1988 said:

Can someone explain for us stupid people what this all means? Buying and selling debt has always confused me.

You buy debt based on amount of debt and the chance of it getting repaid. 

As has been reported by David Conn, 7m quid of debt was sold for 70k. So basically an assumption that there is 1 in 100 chance of full repayment. However, it was bought by an undisclosed related party (partner of owners daughter) and owner then negotiated the CVA that suddenly reevaluated chances of repayment from 1 in 100 to 1 in 4. Again, undisclosed that a related party was owner of the debt at stake in the CVA  

Thats about the sum of reporting on this thus far. 

Basically you tell someone that their house is worth 100 quid so they sell it to your son in law and then when your son in law buys it you immediately value it at 2500 quid without telling anyone who buys it that your son in law will make 2400 quid from your maths  

5 minutes ago, BanburyRed said:

How has the euphoria of promotion last season turned into the nightmare of expulsion out of the EFL for Bury?

Because a team that doesn’t pay its players should never have been allowed to be promoted. 

6 minutes ago, Robin1988 said:

One of English football’s darkest days in a long time.

I hope they somehow comeback strong. There’s a lot of people with some big questions to answer but do any of us have any faith that they actually will?

Bury’s players are now out of pocket, the same players who won them promotion last season, I just hope they get picked up by other clubs.

Spare a thought for David Flitcroft and Mansfield too. Sacked after missing out on promotion on the final day, with one of the teams going up in their place going out of business before they played a fixture in the league above. Such a cruel irony.

This. You’ve got to feel for Bury fans but how the EFL have let a team get promoted when they continuously failed to pay their players.... 

They have to address the way they deal with this. Pay staff late once, get a warning. Next time, 3 point fine. And the next time. And the next time. Teams that stick to rules therefore have playing field evened. 

EFL seem to want to wait until last possible moment to get involved and then put hands up and say we did everything we could. They didn’t do everything they could because this has been coming for a while and for more than one club. 

‘The EFL have worked tirelessly’. Whatever. Maybe in last month. Should have been on it a year ago.