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1 minute ago, RedEd73 said:

January I reckon. Won't wait until next summer, unless Alex signs a new contract with a release clause (assuming our valuation isn't met this summer)

Next summer, when we know what League we are in, what we have and what we need, what is available, and by which time Scott will have demonstrated to the World what a great player he is having led City to the promised land.  We do not need to sell, so don’t 

24 minutes ago, RedEd73 said:

Alex Crook on Talksport indicating that he feels Bournemouth will get him for about £18m as there isn't the interest that City were hoping for from other clubs. 

So don’t sell then, reassess next year 

15 minutes ago, Nathandao said:

How have we had 5 pages on this thread since this time yesterday with no actual news?

Perhaps that is the news , perhaps he is staying put.

12 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said:

We won’t be playing three at the back it’s been done to death. Please stop banging on about keeping our best players . Like a stuck bloody record 

Well I’m old enough to know what a record is, and that our club rarely breaks records. This year I want different 

2 minutes ago, Supersonic Robin said:

It's probably more useful to think of it like this:

 

Perhaps you could consider King as an option at DM and argue that Naismith can then play as the LCB, but I think that takes Naismith out of his best position for us and relies a little too heavily on King who is moving further and further towards the 'coach' end of the player-coach role. Feels like realistically we still need 1 in at CB.

Good to have options, we could choose a back three ( select from the list I gave) with Tanner and Pring as wing backs, there are all sorts of choices with this squad. What we MUST do though, is keep our quality players, if this is going to be our year. And why not

3 minutes ago, Finley_Smith10 said:

Naismith

Goods call, but I like him in midfield, but the point is we have more than enough cover at the back

Plus King

46 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Centre back if Kalas doesn't sign.

Atkinson, Vyner, Roberts , McCorrie , Dickie and Pring,plus youngsters , looks like cover enough 

1 minute ago, INCRED said:

Do we think that’s it now for incoming signings?

Goalkeeper, maybe, otherwise all looks pretty good 

Done

2 minutes ago, Taz said:

Thats my point. If he stays we need to do well (we'll we need to anyway). My point is that if we're in the lower half of the table come January, then the reality is that he'll be gone if the offers are there.

If he stays and we do well going into January, then he's less inclined to want to move - at least until next season if we don't go up. 

If Knight signs as expected/hoped, then for the first time since THAT Cotts season, we look well stocked in most positions, and there is a hint of optimism around the club - even Nige mentioned the P word the other day!! Yes I think we still need to look at the goalkeeping situation, however if we want to keep players like Scott, Conway etc, then we need to capitalise on the feel good factor, and getting a good balance within the squad.

At last , a man with ambition. Glad to get that monkey of my back

30 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

For the millionth time, this window and potentially January are the windows to achieve maximum value. We do not need to sell, but at 25 million, we want to sell.

And I want promotion, for the 25 th million time

2 minutes ago, Taz said:

Bournemouth would be a decent move for him with regards to us getting a decent sell on if he proves he can (as we all think he will) prove that he can play at that level. 

He either does really well and a big club come in for him, or goes a bit higher up from there - maybe a Villa/West Ham, and then on again for even bigger money afterwards. 

Personally if he does go this summer, we need someone like Bournemouth to bid, which will then hopefully kick someone else into putting a bid in, and then the price just keeps going up. Like many others, I'm kind of resigned to losing him before the window "slams shut", but if not we really need to kick on, otherwise he'll be gone in January - and that will prove a harder job to replace him then with the inflated winter prices!

Why does h have to go now or In January, next summer is still ok for those desperate to sell the family silver. Help us go up and you might find we are rather bigger than the mighty Bournemouth

11 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said:

It's all if and ands though isn't it. If we sell him for £25M it's a decent price. If he stays and drives us towards a win in the play off final what's that worth, £100M.

Exactly, and what message does keeping him give to any other potential signing?

we do not need to sell this year, reassess next year 

Conway plays well with Wells, Bell and Cornick or even Weinman give more options. Looks good to me , especially if we keep our talented youngsters for at least another season 

2 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

No it hasn't, it's a what's Conway worth thread with most posters saying he could be a 20 to 30 million player but currently not for sale, because he isnt easily replaced,

If you actually bothered to read it you would know this.....

I did , and I know where it is going too

In fact the first , “ what can we get for Conway” thread has just started. 

1 hour ago, P'head Red said:

I would rather keep him than not. The only issue is, we get to next summer and he hasn't signed a new deal, teams could be willing to wait another year and he'll go for free. 

And you will say the same about Conway next year, and probably said the same about Semenyo last.

We may keep our best player, and unbelievably some on here sound disappointed. I want to see Scott in a City shirt next season, and enjoy the football.

Nottingham Forest? There are plenty others, then of course you have the PL with Manchester City , Chelsea etc

Those you mentioned that got punished, only were for failing to get promoted.

The system is corrupt, plain and simple 

12 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

If you cite Aston Villa you are missing a couple of key details.

1) They gained £36m profit on disposal and leaseback of stadium in 2018-19 which meant they could hold onto Grealish and gamble once more. This loophole is shut! A stadium or fixed asset sale would thus have no impact.

2) They also had HS2 route going through their training Ground, another £14.4m income albeit compensation. We do not have this luxury, it was their bad luck yet fortune at the same time. No other club has been impacted upon albeit benefited in this way.

3) 3rd and final year of Parachute Payments.

4) The future monitoring was not as advanced as now. Now if a club loses between £x and £y in 3 years the League will ask for the following 2 years of P&S numbers and can impose restrictions ahead of time if required to help prevent a breach.

That said we don't need to sell Scott for FFP, nor Conway or Bell. Not strictly speaking but it will mean we maybe can't spend much more than we have this season.

Use Wolves then, same story.

Brighton took a chance too

7 minutes ago, RedRoss said:

So in short you have nothing informed to reply with.

Plenty,

1. The only solution to resolving £200m of debt is promotion to the PL ( unless you can find 10 Alex Scott’s). A slow year by year improvement will take longer to fix the problem than I have to live.

2. The current financial rules are ignored by some (allegedly Villa), and designed to protect the existing PL members via parachute payments. So if we are good little boys and play by the rules we are still at a massive disadvantage. Answer, play by your own rules.

3. Players aren’t slaves, of course they can move, typically to clubs with ambition. Make us the club they want to move too, not from.

I’m not the one who is being naive here, but the rubbing of hands (or something)of those on here as to how much the club will get for Scott is beginning to annoy me. He has two years on his contract, there is no need to sell now and plenty of need for him in our team.

47 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

It’s that kind of statement that shows ignorance of both 1) the current financial accounts - the accounts are far from ok really - £200m of debt, 2) the current financial rules that govern the EFL (FFP P&S)…unless of course you have just decided to ignore them and 3) modern football in terms of player movement.

Do I like the rules?

Nope.

Would I like players to stay a bit longer?

Yes, but if someone waves 4-5x your wage at you, you move.

I can assure you in 57 years time I won’t give a "………………”. But for those around then I’m sure Aston Villa we still be in the Premier League ( if not the European Super League) if you want to see top flight football ️. 

34 minutes ago, Bristol Oil Services said:

"Give up all hope for a better past" the Buddhists advise us. And while yer at it/that, give up all hope of a better present/future/summer transfer window.

Just surrender mate, to the mediocrity. We are mediocre. We have largely always been mediocre, and we probably always will be so. We are Reading (minus the record breaking promotion to the PL).

If we ever escape the cloying clutches of mediocrity - like that brief spell in 17/18 - it is always and without fail not going to last. 

Don't be fooled, don't be seduced, taken in, when we win three in a row, or have another good spell, or a young player destined for the top: remind yourself, we are mediocre. We are Reading (minus Trevor Senior).

Don’t worry Friend, I already have. 
Every bright young star will be sold at the first opportunity, the money will then be spent on a load of mediocrity , and in 57 years time we will still be in the second tier, with no doubt the occasional visit to the third in between. Mind you, our accounts will be in order, so that’s something.

How much do you think we will get for Conway next year, or should we sell him as a BOGOFF deal with Bell?

Just now, IdliketoRogerMoore said:

Heaton left after we got relegated to league 9/10 years ago, Ayling was sold because the Cheltenham incident? 
Webster, Kelly, Brownhill, Bryan and Reid  would’ve have been out off contract by now and left for free all went on to play Prem football and had the ambition to do so so wouldn’t have signed new contracts what planet do you live on? 

The list I gave was purely to illustrate the quality of players that we have let go off in recent times. As to “ what planet “ , the one where as a Bristol City fan of 57 years standing, I have seen them win sweet fa other than the paint pot cup and where we are in the same division as when I saw that first game. The planet where I have seen Swindon , Blackpool , Wigan , Oldham and now Luton in the Premier League.

I’m guessing you always wanted to talk to Roger Moore, but never actually did.