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Just as a rider on this one, Huddersfield manager claiming they got a letter from PGMOL that the decision was wrong. Surprised tbh as it looks one of those 50/50s

Thinking in hindsight it but might have been better to just let the buggers go to the super league and have been done with it.

Edit: wrong thread!

Just to focus for a second on the other bit of news in this. The FA Cup final will be the week before the final Premiership round of ties.

There seems no need for this at all other than a bit of ego ‘we are the finish of the season, not you’.

Charity Shieid starts the domestic season, FA Cup finishes it. No need for change at all.

13 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said:

I've got mixed views on this.

On the one hand, I suspect most managers - including in the Championship, League One and League Two - regard replays as a bit of a pain in the arse and there are probably a lot of fans who'd appreciate getting a result on the day.

On the other hand, replays are a fantastic income generator for small clubs and there's a certain magic in smaller teams forcing major sides to a draw and an extra game - even if they ultimately lose in the replay. I feel like the main result of this will be more bigger clubs going through to the later stages and less opportunities for smaller clubs to get a money-spinning second fixture. 

Agree about the comment it will cost clubs the ‘money spinner’ replay. Not so sure it will lead to more bigger teams going through. It’s not uncommon for smaller clubs to get a replay they lose. If instead of that it’s a more evenly balanced penalty shoot out I would expect more bigger teams to go out. Need to hold them once, not twice?

29 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

I'm guessing Liam shouted back there was no need to be so cross with him, moderate your behaviours and take a bit of the emotion out of it..............

…and told him he needed less time on the grass…

7 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Me too.

You’ll get to hear some of my shouts then!

“Bloody get it forward and get in the top quartile for successful forward passes against peer group comparison for Christ sake!”

4 hours ago, Simon bristol said:

Just watched their title clincher, 5-0 vs bremen…  absolutely stunning football, 40 odd game’s unbeaten, wirtz is a world star and got a hat trick,, god help the rest of us if the Germans play like this in the euros!

The real question, is does Kane need to move if he wants to see titles…

13 hours ago, steviestevieneville said:

Doesn’t make him right just because he’s a ex pro . Hes sliding in to block the cross it’s hit his arm from about 2 yards away. In situations like this you have to ask yourself if you’d be pissed off it’s that’s given against us , because I would 

Totally agree in the sense I would too, and as a Huddersfield fan given league position and the timing of it, I would be fuming. It is ball to hand, and then it’s a debate about is the arm in an unnatural position, which is very marginal.

Having said all that, I would be also fuming at the current laws which seem a mess, are too harsh in my view, and come down to very fine line subjective interpretation. It’s a call that is most likely not overturned by VAR whatever way the ref calls it as a clear and obvious error. Unlucky to get given and equally unlucky if not given on us, as it seems a bit of a coin toss on these kind of ones at the moment.

54 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

xG is not best used to say whether we should/shouldn't have got certain results. But. I do use it like that as by doing that I can look back at the longer terms trend. It's also the best measure of "luck" that I know of. With those caveats in place, here is what I have for the past 12 games.

xG suggests that for the past 5 games, 6 points would have been "par" based on chance creation. We've received 11.

For the preceding 5 that you identify, it's again 6 points for "par". We actually took 3.

So for me, yes that suggests that the past 5 have seen us receive an element of fortune that we didn't get in those 5.

Overall it's a 17 point haul from 11 games where as my xG measure suggests 12 would be what we'd get on average based on the chances created.

 

Interesting analysis. A good mix over the 12 games of teams sprinkled throughout the league.

As you say, dangerous to rely on xG to say ‘this is what the result of any one game should have been’, but it does provide an indicator over a decent period. Although some are marginal, is interesting that in only 3 out of 12 do we have a positive xG. Also it does confirm a nagging doubt in the back of my mind when our current very good position in the recent form table gets highlighted that  it is not really matching what I am seeing in the round. It’s not that we are bad recently as such, but that we are not either in a really purple patch of form where we are looking like we are great. 

Reminds me of those runs we would get under LJ were results were good for half a dozen games or so, but the evidence of my own eyes was that we were getting the rub of the green a little, and that sooner or later we would revert to our mean, which generally we did.

Going to be a gutter of gutters for their fans. 

Always felt this was likely today. The issue is not so much we got beat by a team that wanted it more, it’s that we are making a habit of losing these types of matches 0-1 and looking awful doing it. Ho hum.

Deserved by them…

…or maybe a late penalty, :laugh:…

Just now, marcofisher said:

2 games in short succession and Huddersfield are playing for their Championship future and we are in the beach. Could see it happening 

Kind of what many of us half expected really. Still disappointing we could not push on with the way we played.

Annoying really, cannot begrudge them it, we never really got going.

Huddersfield finishing pretty strongly and carving out some chances now.

edit, 0-1

Bleh, Stoke level.

Bleh. Been better this half, in the sense we are getting closer to average. We are creating more, in the sense we have managed a few shots. Still poor overall, but still there to be won…or lost.

3 minutes ago, 22A said:

Cardiff 2-1 down on the stroke of HT.

We are a goal away from 11th! Don’t anyone dare say there is nothing on this game…

Clean sheet with a scratch back line. All I have got! Dull as ditchwater. 

Back to the performances of a couple of months back. Other side better without creating that much, excuse of a rather make shift back line has some weight, but we are non existent as an attacking entity, and it’s bloody dull.

Looks a bit like us going through the motions a bit against a team more up for it.

Boro one up at Ipswich..

James getting on well with the ref.

Just now, Midred said:

Millwall 1 up.

And now, the turd that will not flush, Birmingham. QPR a goal down.

1 minute ago, Alan Dicks said:

Where’s Vyner and Dickie?

sorry cant be arsed to scroll back

Both carrying knocks confirmed, and no need to risk them I guess.

Expecting this to be gritty and hard fought, but then I expected that Wednesday.