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*ahem* OK, I give you Sam Mason, set a new low bar for awfulness. I had pretty much blanked her from my mind! Bring Back DL I say!

He's not as bad as he was a couple of seasons ago, but he is still awful compared to just about every announcer we have had previously.

Yep, would it not be an idea to put tannoy speakers down in the concourse?

I didn't think Benarous was that bad, certainly no worse than the rest of the side, and Martin tackling him in the last few minutes was awful on Martin's part, not the other way round. Having said that, I thought at the time it was a very strange substitution to be making, especially as Bakinson had just had his best 10 minutes of the match when he was taken off.

Justin Fashanu didn't come out until he had retired so far as I know. edit - apologies, it seems he came out just at the end of his career in this country.

I was certain of at least one of them

Looks like a very young side all round or am I just getting old?

didn't he just turn 18 about a month ago?

When people say away fans are 'taking the piss' or 'being cocky' do they mean actually attacking innocent City fans or do they just mean singing and attempting to goad City fans? If it's the former then that's certainly not something I've seen in the last 20-30 years, though sometimes before that maybe, albeit incredibly rarely. If it's the latter, then why do you feel the need to retaliate? Are you that insecure? Either just ignore them or try and outsing them ffs.

Didn't even notice we weren't ninth until it got mentioned! 4 years at approx 50 episodes a year? That's over 200 hours, take out the bleeping and swearing there must be 50 hours or so of quality entertainment

It's cyclical - There's quite a few Alf/Alfie/Alfred's around nowadays. I can think of at least 5 my kids have been in classes with. There was also a Wilfred which isn't a name you'd expect to see any more! As well as at least one Keanu (sigh)

The longest of long shots these days!

That was my initial thought but he was talking about the kiddie behind him with the round neck shirt on which is from 2020 at the latest

Most jobs do bother with these awards evenings, just that they tend to be jollies for the bosses rather than inviting the plebs along. There might not be binman of the year, but there will be a 'Best Refuse Services Company' of the year or something.

Fair enough, must have been something similar

I'm sure that pic was doing the rounds a few years ago so maybe 65-70 years, and thats only if they carry on going once their parents arent buying their tickets any more ?

I think people are getting confused by the wording again. If, rather than using the term White Privilege people called it Black Disadvantage or something, then maybe they would be less upset by it. I know Black Disadvantage does not precisely define it, but I hope you can understand what I am getting at.

It's not just me that finds All Lives Matter difficult when used as a response to Black Lives Matter, and I am sure that your friend would not have been aware as you point out. But the fact remains that it can be seen in that way, and I am sure your friend would not have used the slogan had it been explained in advance, as I am sure he would have been keen to avoid even the slightest chance of his banner being perceived in that way.

Why would someone be a thug for following England? I've followed England abroad, it doesn't make you a hooligan. I suspect most of us on here would not be amazed who the flag belongs to as it's most probably someone we've never heard of and I'm not aware of ever being amazed by ownership of a flag before now.

You really need to calm down. Nobody called this group racists so not sure why you need to tell us that they were multi racial and not racist in every single one of your posts. All Lives Matter would not have been put on that banner if it wasn't for the context of it being opposed to a Black Lives Matter demo, so context does indeed very much come into it. It was not intended to be racist, but it does seem to be a little clumsy to me.

I have not said they were being racist, I said they were unwittingly using a slogan that is clearly racist when used as a response to Black Lives Matter. I fully accept they did not mean it and were not being racist, though I would hope that they would now admit it wasn't the most sensitive thing to be saying. Do you really not see the issue with using All Lives Matter as a response to the Black Lives Matter slogan?

It was on that placard as a response to the phrase Black Lives Matter. It doesn't really matter what I say because you will refuse to accept it. This does not change the fact that they were NOT called racist by anybody and you should stop bleating on about it because it is just a false accusation.

https://theconversation.com/why-is-it-so-offensive-to-say-all-lives-matter-153188

You are ignoring the fact that I have said that, although it is a racist slogan in that context, the people using it weren't being racist, they were just being ignorant. I have not called them racist.

Please stop bleating on about these people being called racists, I have searched and can't find it. If you can, link it here and maybe you'll have a point. If not, you are just making them out to be victims of something that never happened.