Fordy62

Again, it’s not a case I’m investigating - so I’m cool to have an opinion. Try listening to what the majority of us have. See if you disagree then. I’ll be surprised if you do.

Then you need to be aware that it’s fine to comment on things in the public domain. Now you’ve learnt that, you should be better informed going forwards. If I were talking about me disclosing unrelated data pertaining to a live criminal case, you have a point.

100% mate.

I think you misunderstand mate. I nearly bit when I thought you were suggesting the police weren’t doing their job in the greenwood matter. I didn’t bite because I was able to work out that you were referring to Collymore - it wasn’t the clearest thing in the world.

It’s a very hard offence to prove. It mostly happens behind closed doors, without Cctv or witnesses and forensic evidence is largely quashed by the ‘it was consensual’ line. Our justice system is designed to protect the innocent and sadly, that’s probably to the detriment of persons who are raped.

Presumably this is a joke?

I can understand your confusion and I nearly bit, but then I re read and he’s referring to the incident between Stan Collymore & Ulrika. Thankfully the police attitude towards domestic abuse has dramatically changed. We just need society to be the same.

Yep… these would be defences… Self inflicted is plausible I suppose. Role play is plausible I suppose. But both taken together really isn’t very likely. I just hope she confided in someone early on, or called the police herself. The police will undoubtedly piece it together as best they can for a court to decide what’s gone on.

The injuries sustained would be at a ABH level. But that’s not the offence he needs to be worried about. At this particular moment, given what we’ve seen (heard) it’s hard to see how he’s going to avoid a substantial stretch.

Yep. I’d never go to a doctor either, nor a school caretaker, foster family, etc

Yes. That’s what this thread is about.

Without knowing the ins and outs, it’s hard to say. There would be some defences out there that’d be hard to disprove if she didn’t give evidence. I’m not going to go into those!

If you said what you truly felt I’d agree.

Not a chance.

Well… if I had just been raped I’d probably want maximum damage to whomever had done it so I can’t blame her for that, social media is undoubtedly maximum damage.

Hard to see how it’s isn’t true isn’t it?!

Horrible horrible things on social media this morning. If guilty (certainly sounds that way), I hope he gets everything he deserves.

Have you watched the replay? Definitely not good enough.

A scapegoat (or escape goat ?) is someone who’s blamed for the mistakes of others. Vyner is blamed for his own mistakes. Yes, Pring gave the ball away, but Vyner’s defending was abhorrent!

I just needed to highlight “pitch personalities” ???

How old mate? Mine still not particularly interested at 5.

Watch his defending for the goal then you’ll see.

Think we should refocus blame to Vyner. Awful defending.

Oh god. I had no idea. That is so embarrassing. Id gladly never see him in our shirt again. I take no pleasure in that, just simply not good enough.

It hasn’t half been turned around Dave. It feels incredible to actually be excited about our next game! Enjoying football again.