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I think it’d be more fair if we scored the game with the number of times we get into the final third versus their number of goals. I think it’d be fairly even then. 

2 minutes ago, ozpaul said:

Overseas. Is it really as boring as it sounds?

Yeh. It’s pretty shit. But I’d consider Boro better than us, so to be drawing isn’t all bad. 

Anyone been able to see any discernible difference in the first ten minutes? I haven’t. But that’s not to say someone with a better football brain than me hasn’t. 

They’re really plugging this ‘official’ start of Manning’s Bristol City career. I’m not sure what the QPR game was. 

Robins TV announcing it’s Liam Manning’s first game in charge. 

48 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

It’s a point I’ve made a few times but in a lot of ways Liam is on a total hiding to nothing here. He doesn’t have the new manager excitement or currency, and as this thread shows the feeling seems to be disillusionment as opposed to excitement. Thats not his fault - it’s a function of the manager prior not being wanted to be changed by the majority of fans, and also the ham fisted way things have been done.

A performance like QPR can’t happen tomorrow. I’m not in the boat of he needs to get top six, but he does need to get an uptick in performance at the very least from Nige even if results are consistent to justify the decision.

I don’t consider myself excited for tomorrow. But that’s down to Lansdown and Tinnion, not Manning, and he has my full support to hope this works. But if it doesn’t - and quickly - this could go very bad very very quickly.

Draw as a minimum with a positive performance is required. With this and Southampton, it feels like he’s been thrown to the wolves. Hopefully he can learn from the prior occupant and fight them off.

Yep. Not beating QPR is now looking a real problem - straight on the back foot. 

I think we’ll lose by at least a couple. They’re a good side and I think we’re in trouble. I’d snap your hand off for a point. 

I’m hearing a lot about Manning not making it as a pro. I trust I’ve missed the good stuff?

I has hoped it would have passed by now, but I still find myself fairly ambivalent to it all now.

I have nothing against Manning at all, but  I fear the only thing that would allow me to get my mojo back would be new ownership. 

1 hour ago, Topper 123 said:

We at Bristol City are fed up of players getting BIG wages that are just not on board and giving 100% for the badge , I don’t like naming players but you must know and you fellow professionals must know who you are , if your spent then hang up your boots and stop robbing the club , if your not good enough and you’ll know then work harder and compete more because us the fans can see it -100 % is all we ask and for the wages you get that’s what we deserve, so PLAYERS buy into this and drive us forward as we will support you 

This is like one of those riddles Ted Rogers would give on 3-2-1. 

49 minutes ago, Cristored said:

I think probably 20 sides in the division have a squad good enough for promotion - doesn’t mean it will happen though, I think Pearson gave the green light to too many poor transfers 

Who were you previously? Remind me. 

Also, look at the reactions to the opening post on the thread. 

Some pretty hefty forum big hitters all sharing the same view. That is not coincidence. 

I definitely have the resources to prove all this. Trouble is… can’t use them!

100% this place is infiltrated when it ‘needs to be’. 

1 minute ago, robinforlife2 said:

Yes, but Pearson wasn't here last week against Sheffield Wednesday and we played a lot better there, and won that comfortably and possibly should have got a second. So granted, had we been really poor last week, I would buy into that more, but we look 100 times worse than we did last week. 

Still working under the Pearson regime though weren’t they?

Might be a touch lucky there you know. 

1 minute ago, robinforlife2 said:

No, but the players have a lot to answer for, because they look like they haven't got a clue what they are meant to do out there, and that has to come down to instructions given. 

Ever had a manager leave who you really loved working for? Leaves you feeling deflated. This is that. 

No way would we have been playing this poorly under Nige. 

So this turgid display lies firmly at the door of The Lansdown family. 

Let’s hope a few sessions over the international break will help Manning develop his way. 

Well this is absolutely shit. 

We’re pressing very high on occasions which concerns me. It’s all very well against QPR, but the better teams may well pick us off on the break. 

Difficult game to judge because QPR are pretty shit. But we have started well. 

I can’t help but feel JL has set up a poisoned chalice for LM here. And I wonder if to save face the Lansdowns May attempt to buy themselves out of it in the January window. We’ll see. 

This is weird isn’t it? I’m not sure we’ve ever been in this position before or are likely to be again. 

A new manager has come in when the reality is we didn’t need one. The team were playing fine. They were playing for the manager and we were all reasonably happy. It’s always the case that we’ve been playing on the poor side when a new manager comes in, so there really isn’t a new manager bounce for us to hope for as there normally is.  So realistically what am I to want? I don’t know. Do I realistically think LM can come in and step us up a gear or two? I’m not sure that’s possible… I just hope he does well but I am very very worried… and if you’re wondering why… just see Birmingham*
 

*NB I realise that there are a 101 reasons why we’re not comparable with B’ham, mainly because Manning appears to be there on merit, but the changing managers when you don’t need to us such a massive gamble. 
 

edit: to answer the question, I’m going to say I’ll be really disappointed with fewer than 7. 

14 minutes ago, Redrascal2 said:

I wouldn't mind a modern day version of Akinbiyi playing for us now. He was a real handful back then and 20 plus goals in a struggling team. What a time that was.

Correct. My fave ever striker. What a front three we had. And Shaun Taylor. Those were the days. 

2 hours ago, IAmNick said:

Can someone explain this to me?

At work I'm used to the opposite being beneficial - focusing on processes rather than outcomes may not achieve anything and can promote almost cargo cult behaviour (which I see a lot in the tech world). What's the point in processes if they don't achieve an outcome? Does it matter how you achieve the outcome?

Why is this seen as a good thing here? Am I wrong thinking that an example would be passing it around the back (because good teams do it) without focusing on the outcome l outcome (what they achieve by doing it)?

My understanding, going back to SOD’s explanation of all those years ago, is that outcomes will naturally follow processes. You can’t necessarily create good outcomes, but if you concentrate on the processes then outcomes will follow. 

Oh. And measure the grass and spend a shift with (a) the SAS and (b) in a Michelin starred kitchen. Or something like that. 

2 hours ago, AppyDAZE said:

Something inside me tells me this is going to go tits up.

 

It’s it years and years of it having gone tits up?