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Says it all really. He may be young and a bit raw but he has valuable first team experience at Championship level and with Sam Bell's injury surely he would have more opportunities? Now binned off to Bath City never to be seen again until he pops up and scores a hattrick for Cardiff against us. I thought we hired a bright young enthusiastic coach? Try telling that to the likes of Roberts and Yeboah.

I'm just tired of the rinse and repeat rubbish from the club, Dave. This is my team and at this moment I have never felt so disillusioned about the short term aims let alone the long term. I have always backed the manager/coach but find myself increasingly not taking to the "Manningisms" and if I'm not believing it then I'm damn sure the likes of James, Wells, Williams, Cornick & King aren't either. I just can't buy into it especially when we had it all ready to go with Pearson. On the subject of Andy King, he's done his badges, he has the respect and more importantly the playing experience, he's very articulate and as a bonus he's a fan of the club so giving him the role of head coach I'm pretty sure we'd be in a better place than where we are now but he probably knows too much and would be seen as an adversarial threat for the BT/JL cosy club. So we have to bin off yet another season and look to restart again. I jokingly once said that in ten years time we will still be finishing 12th - 15th in the league but we will stand out as the only current Championship team never to play in the Premier League such is the ambition of the owners.

Appreciate your views but Pearson simply wasn't given the finances. He was asked to come up with a scenario with and without Scott. He did, but to replace the considerable talent that was sold meant some serious investment. At this point you have to factor in that he had already cleared out a lot of players. The club knew this & simply baulked and thought they could do better. So on one hand, you have experienced manager who's played and coached at the highest level, experienced chief exec, coaching staff & highly regarded backroom staff. On the other hand you have a novice young coach who's coached at league 1 level, an ex player & failed manager who's been successful as an Academy Manager who seems to be pulling a lot of strings and the son of the owner who doesn't really want to be here. The former is more expensive, granted but the latter tells you where we are heading.

I think the drop in performances says it all really. Imagine you're a player who's played at the highest level,won the Premier League, or even for your country, and been managed by people who inspire you and then in comes this young inexperienced guy who's never even managed at this level who tells you that you need to play a different way or that you're not in the side because the player you replaced is unfit but he plays anyway because he likes him, I think your performance levels will drop. Others on here have already alluded to this. We may laugh at the sags who are rotten from top to bottom but we have similar growing internal problems at the other end of the spectrum. Their coach looks great at league 1 level (a bit like Manning) but has struggled at our level.

The hierarchy will back him to the hilt because sacking him now( which is what is needed) before any more damage is done such as being drawn into a lower end flirt with relegation or poor season ticket renewals, will just further underline what a poor and undercooked appointment this was from the start and just further demonstrates a total lack of football knowledge & ineptitude made by the people at the top. They seem to have this misguided view & want to think that we only want a coach to coach so that all control over transfers, finance and football related decisions are in their complete control. At lower league level you can probably get away with that. But NOT at this level and above. This club's immediate future had a firm foundation with an experienced chief exec in RG or PA plus a highly experienced manager, coaching team and backroom staff. Now we have all of the ingredients of a league 1 set up in waiting in now being run by an inexperienced son in business and a failed ex manager along with a few of his ex player mates from the old league 1 days. The writing is there on the wall when he says one thing about gradually introducing players back from injury and then starts two of them who clearly weren't fit, leaving other players on the side lines. There is so much more about being a coach/manager at this level which he's now finding out to his cost.

There is a worrying trend developing against the bottom sides and Manning doesn't seem to have the coaching knowledge to overcome these teams, that's down to his lack of experience at this level. Some questionable selections today as well such as Sykes and especially Pring starting. I am sure that's done Roberts' confidence a world of good. Motivating your team against the bottom sides shouldn't be an issue, if you are a good coach. It feels like we're back to the LJ days of learning on the job. There is so much more to managing a club at Championship level than just being a coach. This team reflects the coach, which is weak and tepid.

We've changed the manager mid season and are trying to change the style of how we play, also mid season with largely the same calibre of players. We were a mid table team without proper investment with Pearson before and we're much the same with Manning now. When I say proper investment I mean we've missed a big opportunity in selling both Scott and Semenyo, two of our best players, and not re investing properly. Scott is a generational talent. We simply just haven't replaced him and kicked on. He was our springboard to propel us upwards. Pearson knew that. He also knew that we needed that investment to get there. The board baulked "Cottrellesque" and reverted to type. With the popular Pearson he had the experience to navigate these times, Manning doesn't. I've said before that the problem for the unfortunate Manning is that fans will always be even more critical when matters go awry simply because of the way the club finally dealt with Pearson. Crucially, you won't hear Manning giving out barbed comments about investment, he can't, he's just the coach. The season is pretty much over now. On a positive note you can see the shoots of progress, but missing key players like Sykes has definitely cost us. Can he sort out matches against the so called lesser clubs or will he go on one of those LJ type losing runs & never to be seen again, who knows. I don't think even he knows.

I didn't go today (glad I didn't) but I had a feeling this was on the cards. It seems like they wanted it more, had something to defend and had a real sense of purpose and deservedly won the match. it seems with the changes he made it just unravelled LJ esqe before his very eyes and makes it look like he's a mug out of his depth. Its a bit of an enigma developing for Manning, how to play successfully against the so called lesser opposition. Its something he has to address and quickly. Until he can get that belief into the players for a routine win, matches like today just underlines that we are a mid table team going nowhere.

He's had a good grounding at Brighton. Its pretty obvious he wants to play in the Premier League,he's come from there! A little bit "left field" but nothing phases him. He is a very good player. It's up to the coach to manage his expectations

I'm a season ticket holder & I now live outside of Bristol so tend to miss the midweek games especially the 8pm kick offs with work commitments the following day. Having spent many years when I lived there navigating the chaotic traffic conditions in Bristol, such as the Cattle Market Road access into the City being closed off, its just a complete ball ache getting out of Bristol for a night match. I chose to support the club by buying my season ticket knowing that I would miss quite a few midweek matches. It's my choice. I know others who use the park and ride services which can be just as chaotic especially the closer you get to kick off the buses inevitably use the same council congested roads. It always makes me laugh when you can get 60,000 fans out of the London Stadium quicker & with the minimum of fuss than the 24,000 in Bristol. The city is so backward thinking when it comes to public transport. The clue is the successful underground/overland train. Make it reliable so people don't have to think about it and it will get used, simple.

Really pleased for Cornick. He really is a team player. What people have to realise is that he's being asked to do a certain type of job when he comes on. I hope some of his previous detractors realise this before binning certain City players off.

Simple answer, yes. Exaggerates league position, attendances, history. Fits in quite nicely with the average sag specimen.

Just where do they find such specimens as "club legend" He/she/it really ought to get a hobby like trainspotting or measuring rainfall in Filton over the last 50 years.

I can't agree with this at all and can't work out where you've based your post on. Actually most wanted him to stay and carry on what he started. He was very popular. He is a proper experienced Premier League manager who was able to bring in backroom staff of the calibre of Dave Rennie who is highly respected in his field. He was brought in to clear up a complete shambles of a club that had spiralled FFP financially out of control through previous mismanagement. His no nonsense approach brought him respect from the playing staff and fanbase. He never let his ongoing health issues get in the way and certainly never used it as an excuse. He was asked to come up with a plan with and without Scott which he did and the general feeling was that we were on the cusp of something very exciting by reinvesting that money into quality signings and be able to compete better with the parachute payment clubs but the board baulked and changed their mind, he had little investment to work with which in turn affected the team on the pitch and they wouldn't offer him an extension of his contract. This gradual fallout culminated on him being asked for a debrief on the Cardiff away defeat and him telling the club's hierarchy where to stick their job. Hence the shambolic and undercooked presser the following day which just underlined how amateurish it made the club's hierarchy looked. No one knows this for sure but it certainly points that way. We've reset once again and "top six squad" comments by JL & "I'll be back when we're in the Premier League" comments by BT were ill thought out & just underlines how out of depth and out of touch with the fanbase the board really are. It wasn't the right call for him to go, certainly not mid season, and to change playing direction and replace him with a complete novice at this level as well shows a complete lack of understanding and shows us in a poor light. It is thanks to Pearson, not Manning that we are comfortably mid table this season. Such is the man, I don't recall anywhere where I've seen him slagging off his employers. This is where we are at the moment. A still popular ex manager with a still largely counter attacking under invested based squad having to change to a possession based style mid season coached by an unknown novice who now is being funded with some sort of investment, playing a style which the fanbase can't really identify with. Already the club are backtracking on statements made and of course Manning has to get used to coaching at this level, hence the generally mediocre results.

Its so petty. Its this type of small minded airbrushing of history which holds them back big time. Why not acknowledge that whilst at Bristol City he was an experienced player and coach at Championship level to show his experience and credibility. Not like them to make things up or fabricate the truth is it. As you say tinpot.

Because Mr Pop contracts mean nothing if West Ham or bloody Bournemouth dangle £15M or £20M in front of SL. Also Cam's agent will be pushing to cash in on a big pay day and lastly, Cam's head will be turning at the chance of a massive wage increase and set up for life. At this point City would do well to argue to justify any increase on any transfer price simply because we may not get a percentage of any future dealings if he goes on a free in the future, just like potentially Lloyd Kelly. They got him for a snip at £18M plus we negotiated a sell on clause. All pie in the sky if he runs down his contract.

Yes, I agree. My thoughts are that through the change in direction coaching wise we are moving towards that posession based style but with it we need to recruit that type of player as well that's why the there seems to be focus on the defensive midfield which needs to be more dynamic to compete. Its no surprise that King, Williams & James are mentioned quite a lot as they have all of the experience and knowhow but what they lack now is legs and longevity. I think the club are looking to revamp and freshen that up. I agree that the free flowing football isn't there and it makes for a hard watch sometimes but we are a work in progress (again). Pearson, with all of his experience got the club back on its feet and there was an opportunity to use the Bournemouth war chest of money to re invest in quality and go for it short term but the hierarchy baulked & changed tactics and are now only reinvesting a portion of that war chest and looking more long term. Its frustrating at times but the recent transfer dealings are positive and we all have to be optimistic that we are moving in the right direction (slowly)

Actually I beg to differ, I think the way Leeds pressured us, the precise crispness of their passing, their movement and quick thinking was the contributory factors in the misplaced passing, slow thought process, distribution and passive play by our players. It was like they were from a higher league and effectively they are with the value of their squad. Unlike us they won't be hampered by FFP because they won't be in this league long enough. Forest were missing quite a few players and West Ham were the same so we took advantage, rode our luck a bit and got results with our 15 man squad. Anyone who thinks differently really need a reality check. Realistically we competed as well as we could when given the opportunity. I don't think we can fault our players at all because the same players played extremely well at Coventry in the previous game and were unlucky not to get the win at a much fancied side. I too take your point re LM's half time team talk and whilst he impacted the match with the subs that improved us, we were caught out by what I thought at the time was an overhit Leeds pass and that first period after half time remains a vulnerable time for us. The coach is learning. We are a mid table side. Its yet another reboot. Stay positive

Leeds are a Premier league team. Its very difficult and getting harder to compete with the parachute teams. They were very quick, confident, moved effortlessly and were very competitive. We simply don't have the players to compete. How the club can say we have a top six squad is beyond me. I am not going to say that they gave us a football lesson because anyone could do that with the amount of money they've been given for effectively failure. If we had the same investment then its a different matter. Its onesided games like this that makes you wonder where football is ending up. It's that colossal financial disparity which is ruining the game. We simply don't have enough depth in the squad to compete. You can't fault the player's efforts. Unlike some on here I won't be losing much sleep over this match.

Exactly this. Whilst the goal scoring opportunities remain a concern; matches against the parachute teams like tonight are not what will define our season. Anything we can get from these games is a bonus. We are a mid table Championship team & unless we have a serious change in ownership to take us in a different direction and with the proper investment to back it up with, we will remain so. Its as simple as that.

When he does his hamstring he will be ready for our treatment table club

I wonder what his buy out clause is? Surely it can't be the same, they're not that stupid are they?

Exactly the reason why I refer to them as notts

Pretty poor if Wolves fans have got tickets in the home areas. How on earth that can happen in this day and age is beyond me. It looks like a lot as well & of course, its not like the friendly West Midlands constabulary would like to miss out on a bit of afters is it. Why on earth would home fans want to miss out and sell their tickets on a match like this?

No apology needed Sir C.T. Its all about opinions.