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1 hour ago, samo II said:

Yup.

Thanks Samo. Had a feeling it must be Scottish but you saved me having to find out.

Good one Havana. Tho you have me stumped over the third game to be repeated from the league cup to the league this weekend. I'm guessing it's not from the English league. Scotland maybe?

49 minutes ago, Fordy62 said:

This game has particularly important bragging rights attached to it for me. The office is full of Villains and whereas the best part of a year has seen them more depressed I think I've ever seen any set of fans, one of my mates issued the stark warning of 'we're going to give someone a pasting soon.'

When you look through their team they've got talent to rival Newcastle. So I hope we've got them just before they click. 

And yes, Aston is a complete shit tip. 

I'm in a similar boat Fordy. Villa fans at work and I married in to a Villa supporting family so a lot on the line today. 

Good one @havanatopia. Super early this week tho - I assume to make sure no repeat of last week 

3 hours ago, Manon said:

You legend 

To be fair although this may have been picked up by now, @reddogkev picked it first.

4 minutes ago, Reds2016 said:

Not bad, Wigan bringing 1k aswell 

Think the 17k include Wigan 1300. And sure I read all ticket so no POTD. Would imagine attendance between 17000 and 18000.

22 minutes ago, Aizoon said:

Another 19 and we leapfrog Blackburn

Ha ha. More likely that wolves will score and then goal difference will be irrelevant. Can't quite believe we could be 16th come 5 o'clock. Long way to go tho.

Shows we lack firepower. 

13 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said:

I don't think the five pillars ever went away - they're all things the club are trying to do behind the scenes.  To be honest - dislike of management speak aside - I've always been a bit confused by what the issues are with the five pillars.  Firstly I've had enough experience of supporting a club without a plan and I'd argue the absence of one from 2008 - 2013 explains why we went from the verge of the play-offs with a hungry young tight squad to relegated with a bloated squad of poor players on expensive contracts.  So I think a plan is a good thing.

Secondly I don't really see the issue with the five pillars.  Effectively all it is is the club saying the following five things are important to them:

1. Community Engagement and promoting "health, social inclusion, participation and education" via the Community Trust.
2. Investing in the academy and youth development to bring young players through.
3. Aiming to sign young players with potential who'll increase in value and having a database of potential talent so we have good ideas for future targets in all positions.
4. Financial control and prudence
5. Building a new stadium and investing in training facilities.

Personally I have no problem with any of those.

1. I want the club to be giving something back to the community.

2. I don't think I've ever met a Bristol City fan who doesn't want the club to have a good youth system.  It's great that Bryan has become an established player and, whether or not the likes of Burns, Vyner, Reid, O'Leary, Morrell and Wollacott become first-team regulars, it's great we have players in with a chance.

3. Our recruitment has gone wrong but I'd say that's because we've got away from having a good list of potential targets, not because the plan is a bad one.

4. I know financial control splits fans who want us to be more ambitious but I don't want us to be where Bolton or Portsmouth are, or where we have been in the past.

5. Surely having decent facilities and a comparable stadium capacity to other teams in the Championship is vital if we want to compete.

As far as I can see, whilst it's not yet translated to success on the pitch, the club following the five pillars has led to a a new stadium, a Category B youth system with 3 youth recruits playing for the club this season and 3 more on the bench and a thriving community trust that's doing good things in the community.  I'd be really interested to know what it is about the principles of the five pillars that makes so many of the fans find them inherently terrible. 

Completely agree with this. Last summer's transfer activity and performance on the pitch withstanding, since they were announced it seems our club has had a clear direction and as you stated good progress has been made in different sections of the club. Have no problem with it personally. 

Smacked of the flat feeling djb referred to. Maybe even guilt for letting Cotts down. Not saying they should feel guilty but it's natural to feel guilt when someone else takes the flak for poor performances.

Great roar when it went in. Flint's lack of any real celebration was telling tho.

What a mahooosive win. Get in there. We'll done lads. You did Cotts proud. That one is for him. We are staying up, say we are staying up.

Voted Moyes but obviously out of our reach I'd have thought. Used to hate listening to Pearson talk in interviews but used to feel the same about Cotterill before he joined us. However that BBC interview changed my views a bit and I'd actually prefer him over Moyes now and much more realistic. 

Another good read and you're right Burnley is a great word to easily say in a northern accent. As is Kawasaki if you want to sound geordie. Anyways, I'm also going for a 2-1 city win. COYR.

Get in there. Fantastic win. Let's get that positivity back.

If we win this...

Then people should stop moaning, only they won't.

Come on City. Hold on. Even better, hit them on the break.

We are 17th, we are 17th! Hope we still are come 5:30.

A good morning read. Keep em coming. And I'm with you, or at least one of your options 1-1. Tho that's my heart speaking so if you're saying 2 is ok then I'll go for what my head says too - 3-1 to them. Hopefully heart prevails.

Pass the Kleenex !

I don't enjoy them that much but each to their own.

Is it pronounced how I hope it is? Good MDT Havanatopia. You're pleasing the masses.

16-1 at the min. Name and shame them I say!

What I'll say is, he's never acted directly towards me in a negative fashion. So don't think that this is a personal dig at the chap.

But when I have seen him out in Bristol at a shop/club/ venue the phrase "big man on campus" is immediately obvious. Or should that be "big time Charlie"?

Now, some will be saying if this was after our promotion then so be it, he has the right to demand the adulation of the common folk around him. But this stretches back to his first season with us sadly.

Surely you have to take into account how people can take on roles in groups. When I'm with my friends I'm full of confidence and could well look like an annoying cocky idiot to outsiders but I wouldn't say that's the normal impression I give to people.

Harry didn't want to quote you're whole post but I think you backed up your argument well. Don't know whether players read this but Fontaine's confidence plummeted and attitudes from fans surely played a part. Hope the same doesn't happen to Pack.

Matt Smith starting for Fulham so that's definitely not happening.