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You are correct that the spine of any club that wants to be challenging at the top end, is of prime importance. Every promotion team that I've seen had a core of solid keeper, central defender(s), midfield supremo and a recognised and regular goal scorer. I am of the opinion that we will be playing our football in the other(upper) half of the Championship than the last three years. Whether we get to the top six or top two remains to be seen. PS. Personally I believe that we are going to surprise and upset quite a few clubs this season.

I saw that team twice. At Cardiff City in 1952 and in the first floodlit game at City in 1953. They were a very good side with England's captain Billy Wright and a host of top quality in the side.

I didn't know him personally but when one of us passes on we're all sad. When there is a relatively young family, it makes it such a hard time for them. I hope they realise that he would have wanted them to battle on and not to give up. We all have to go sometime and life isn't always fair. RIP Ady.

No, no and thrice no. It was the clown who was our manager! I know it's an old saying but that clown couldn't manage a piss up in a brewery.

He was also at Bournemouth as a schoolboy. Didn't get on very well there. Surprised if he agrees to go there.

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In any other league and sport, if a club's stadium does not meet the requirements at the time of qualifying for promotion, then promotion would not be a granted.

As one who has supported both City and Bris for a lot of decades. So long that there are only the six City 50 Goals that I didn't see play. Likewise, I have good memories of the amateur days when so many Bristol players were chosen for England Rugby. Bristol's history has been more notable than City. Thus it appears that there is a bias toward them but it's probably more noticeable because of City's lack of trophies and international caps. May be that will change in the near future?

Touting only because the management realise what a gem Scott is. To keep him much longer denies him the improvement he'll get from playing in the Premiership. The rest of the squad probably isn't good enough to make a real challenge yet even though many fans are feeling quite confident. So we are looking to sell him for top current price to be able to recruit maybe two or three more who will improve us considerably. So we lose an apparently top of the range player to increase the quality of the rest of the squad. To keep him, ultimately, against his will will be disastrous. Scott will never be an Atyeo, staying here for his whole career. If we are to survive as a club long term, it has to be in the Prem and we should stop allowing the things like Luton to make a mint instead of us!

Absolute trash!

I first met Chris during the early part of 1960-61 season on the supporters club away coach when I think he was around 12 years. His humour was never ending and while I just stuck with Chrissy, he nicknamed me "Moaner" on a train to Plymouth for an FA Cup third round that we won. And I don't remember him using anything else ever again. I got married in 1969 and living in Southville sometimes bumped into him in the Hen & Chicken until he left for Chelsea. The next time I spoke with him was at a hotel in Hambrook on the morning of City home game with Leicester. He wasn't looking forward to it as being a lifelong City fan and didn't want to beat them. 0-0 was an ok result. My abiding memory of him off the pitch was in a Sheffield fish and chip shop on the way home from an away game. He asked the woman serving, in his best Bristle dialect for "A nake lot" where the "T" is silent. The woman was completely puzzled until we translated it to "A hake lot". No hake on the menu so he got a cod and chips like the rest of us. On the pitch it's the goals he scored to keep us up, the hard work every time he set foot on the pitch in a red shirt and his fantastic header from six inches against the other lot from Eastville. RIP Chrissy and condolences to his family.

I just have thoughts that if he stays here another season, in which we expect/dream that we'll be banging on the Prem door and playing for England Under 21's it will significantly increase his transfer value. And if that happens, I still have a feeling that he impressed Guardiola enough for them to be in the hunt. However, while the impression I get from City, is that we don't want him to go yet, I think the reality is that we want a big enough lump sum in our kitty to support our firm desire for Prem at Ashton Gate. The arrival of Pearson and his cohorts have significantly changed the thinking at City from "We'd like to play in the Premier" to "It's about time that we did what a club the size of City and the population of greater Bristol deserve, is promotion within two years".

Welcome Jason and thanks for mentioning on your first day here that you want promotion! So do we and it's been a long time since we were last there some forty three years ago. We know that you and all your new colleagues have been gathered together by Nigel Pearson and Brian Tinnion with the top tier in their minds. We also know how hard it will be to achieve but as long as you can say that you've done your best, we'll take that.

How about a song for Jason. Good Knight Irene, good Knight Irene, We'll see you in our team

Naismith is a footballer who thrives on making the "killer" pass wherever he plays. And because he's a Championship standard player, and isn't in the same class as Messi, some go awry. Do we benefit more from the positive passes than the Downs league ones? Yes!

I agree that the fitness of modern pros ,especially in the higher divisions, is way better than Atyeo's era and the state of pitches is so better by a million miles. However, and I don't know if you saw him playing but he was so so good and also helped players in the team. Forget the difference in time but any player that plays 650 matches in a career over 15 years has done it because the number of poor games without their contribution can be counted on the five fingers of both hands. ATYEO would have been a great player in any era.

I'm starting this thread because the Jason Knight thread appears to be losing it's way with forwards as the main topic. A big, tall target man will probably never be recruited by Pearson, simply because his idea of attackers are those with speed both initially and over a distance. He knows from his experience as a big central defender, that the big guys like the Welsh lump, Moore at Bournemouth are not too difficult for a decent defender to handle. Thus he's brought in a couple of big defenders for us to cope with that type of forward player who is still preferred by most Championship clubs. But those big centre halves find it almost impossible to deal with the electric pace of those not so physically endowed. So we definitely do not need a six foot plus target attacker while the emphasis is on speedy attackers.

@bpexile Did you know David "Polly" Perkins? Born on the same day in Southmead, we lived two hundred yards from each other. Both went to Charborough Rd infants and later on to BGS. Great person even if he did follow the Gas. Also Maitland Horler was ex BGS and a hooker for Bris United mostly. I have a picture with the three of us as fairies in the school play Midsummer Night's Dream. A fairy hooker. Ha ha.

So did I, my Dad took me to Eastville before Bris rugby and City. February 1950 on a miserable wet Saturday against Palace. I can't remember any goals but as we were sliding down the Muller Road mudbank ( before concrete terracing) all of the first half, Dad decided we'd had enough and left any half time.

Your first paragraph is a fact. Derby have spent more time in the top league and of course with Brian Clough at the head, they had a very good side even if they played on a pitch without grass for most of the season. Yet for a club of their size, normally pulling bigger gates than City, they have, in my lifetime, led a varied existence. One of my childhood memories was listening to the BBC Saturday football, second half only, commentary on the equivalent of today's Radio Five, with Derby in the Third Division (North). So while winning the First Division they have as I said an up and down record. They won't take too long to come back up, hopefully by-passing ITFC on a return journey.

I have a little soft spot for Bury mostly because of my father who grew up in the Rhondda Valley. His younger brother married a girl from Bury and they lived at 5, Gigg Lane, about 15 yards from the turnstiles to the Bury FC ground. My Dad lived with them in the 1930's when he was going anywhere in the country looking for work because the mining industry was at rock bottom at the time. And the last match that my father watched at Ashton Gate a couple of years before he died, was in the Fourth Division against Bury. So, I for one, will be chuffed if Bury FC can regain their Football League status soon.

Reading that emphasises what a big personality some people have. They give everything they can to the work and life that they have. That statement applies not only to Gordon McQueen but also to the author, Joe Jordan.

So I suppose you preferred his predecessor who measured the height of the grass and narrowed the pitch because he couldn't organise a defence. The one who picked show ponies instead of good solid performers. The dipstick who, as a player, slammed the dropped ball into the net from the restart after an opponent was treated for an injury.

So in addition to the ST cost, we'll probably have to buy a new bloody phone every year?

So if so many of us don't have a suitable phone, what is the point of changing the entry to stadium method? The club is acting very stupidly IMO! It's a shame that many of our supporters are so sarcastic about those of us who are significantly older than many of our supporters. We are not stupid old cretins. Then again supporting City for seventy years probably does say a lot for my intelligence! It's always the fans who come every match who suffer, not those with pots of money who can afford phones that cost an arm and a leg. The fans who have always paid their way with turnstile operators, clerical staff and Directors taking their share of the "gate money" which was one of the reasons for 1982. And who got us back on track? People like me who put his total savings account(£90) in new shares.