Davefevs

Just been having a similar conversation on twitter DM. Personally I think the rationale for one thing over another, e.g. pub over football ground is ridiculous, so if pubs are ok, why aren’t other businesses. Don’t get me wrong I think there’s a pretty strong argument to lockdown down pubs etc too (apologies publicans on here). But if pubs can open, where is the comparable safety assessment that can be applied to football stadia.

“Hoping” ??????

Worth a read.

Too complicated an argument with too many dynamics to formulate a full response. But, why would a football club in the entertainment and hospitality sector be treated differently to another business in that sector, whose trade has been restrained by the government? Agree with Triple-T above that football could help itself also. The government’s range of financial support packages were ill-conceived imho, and now they are about to end things like CJRS (Furloughing). It won’t be just football clubs “bleating” once October hits!

Rant above

Good post. For me, there is a lot of moaning from owners that FFP doesn’t allow them to buy there way to success, e.g. they can only cover losses. Well this is the perfect opportunity for them to cover bigger losses!

I’m not disagreeing, just asking why nobody points the finger at any other bodies for support. yes, agreed, PFA have about £5m....can’t find EFL money, but FA have circa £400m!

Not having a go at you Triple-T, but why does everyone always suggest it’s the PL that should bail out the EFL clubs? Why not the EFL itself, or the FA, or the PFA?

I had to stop doing them....when you’ve heard the same question several times over, and then can’t remember the right answer it’s time to stop. Every bugger in the country knows the names of Harry Potter’s parents!!!

They already made it clear from day one, that it’s economy and NHS over people’s lives, but then tried to hide it with “we are following the science”. But I’m gonna step away from this debate now, as I’ll end up going off on one. ?

Without getting into politics, it’s bonkers. The logic of one thing being allowed over another is influenced by the wrong factors. You get BS that education is so important, then you open pubs ahead of it.

Shrewsbury’s new ground was the first away ground I took Joe. As you describe, it is well set up for a test event.

I thought it was funny ??

I love the diversity of the travel / mates.....I could imagine you with a 3 wheeler van with Red Dave Independent Trading on the side and “London, Paris, Wuhan, Oldham” underneath ???

....and one of ours is a board member!!!

Do you think that’s why they’ve sold Lowe and Bogle???

https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/season-cards-update/

Ta. Here’s the link for anyone else. Amortisation “stuff” from pg21. https://www.efl.com/siteassets/efl-documents/youth-alliance/200824---efl-v-derby-county--decision.pdf @Mr Popodopolous it looks like the £25.1m amortisation in 19/20, is the end of the can being kicked down the road. ? As a process / practice, I think it’s more sensible, even if it was standardised as 10% for each year up to C-1 (C = Contract end) So a 3 year deal with be: 10, 10, 80 A 4 year deal, 10, 10, 10, 70 etc. Obviously club should state amortisation model in advance.

@AnotherDerbyFan do you amortisation of £25m in 18/19 or 19/20? If 19/20...have you got access to accounts, or is this a calculation?

Re the bold bit...does Morris ever adjust asset values down during a players time here, ie is there ever an amortisation line in the accounts?. So for example you buy Tom Lawrence for £5m. Is he still sat at £5m? If so, would you need to sell him for £10m to make £5m “Transfer Profit”?

No, law not my thing, must be someone else.

Swings and roundabouts to an extend. Take Player A - £10m on a 5 year deal 23 clubs amortise him at a loss of £2m pa, a cost in each year’s accounts. Derby Dont. Player A still sits on the books at £10, zero to amortise, zero cost. That looks unfair, but.... Scenario A: sold 23 clubs sell player A for £10m the following summer. Each club adds £2m to their transfer profit figure. Derby sell player A for £10m. Zero transfer profit. Scenario B: runs contract down 23 clubs just continue to amortise the £2m in the 5th year. Derby have to amortise / write off £10m. That’s a risky strategy.

I think you know the answer to this!!! I imagine Leicester are automating this. This is not a job that can be done with thousands of fans by pen and paper.

Reading could well be the next “big-mess” club. Think they’ll be bottom 6-8, even a relegation chance.