Davefevs

Hey, all about opinions. ??

Yeah, was just pointing out that FIFA will allow it indefinitely. If UEFA decide earlier, it’s not because FIFA are forcing the issue.

Fifa have said “indefinitely”. It’s TV Money, League Money and Season Ticket money that keeps them afloat at that level, bar the real big clubs like Sunderland, who have disproportionate match day income. Clubs will be losing a max of 5 home game receipts plus the stuff that goes with it....for this season. They’ve been advanced money already to help them. I not saying all is rosy in Lg1/2’s garden, but overspending and living beyond their means is the biggest issue. I think Fleetwood announced a £6m loss!! But in terms of lost revenues, Rick Parry has written to all clubs asking them to submit their expected expenses for the rest of the season. I suspect they are working on some form of short term “help” as encouragement to get the season done....whenever that is safe to do so. On what basis? There will be no pubs, no supporter bars, no atmosphere around the ground to warrant that behaviour imho.

Just assume football does restart early June, behind closed doors....I think it will be used as a test case as to whether it’s viable to start the next season in similar setting, both financially and from the game’s integrity too. Some way to go yet!

Wage cap is open to abuse, just like FFP. £20m will leave clubs at a huge disadvantage when / if they get promoted too. Same with £3.3m in Lg1 etc.

I’ve been a staunch believer in “finish the season...whenever”, but I’m starting to wane on this. But we need to u derstand the financial ramifications of voicing the season. I’ve read conflicting views re TV money, one camp saying Sky want £700m back, another suggesting they’ll either tag it onto the end if existing deal other ask for more televised games over the rest of the deal. If they take their money back, there will undoubtedly be several clubs unable to carry on, and big casualties at that, god only knows how each division would structure in that case. Its a mess....but actually not that important in the grand scheme of things. It will be whatever it is, and there will be winners and losers. Although 7th and with a tilt at the play-offs, the odds are against us getting promoted, so another season in the Champ kinda is no skin off our nose. Financially we are better placed than many clubs to “we go again” next season. Personally more worried by deaths, hospital admissions etc at the mo’.

It’s gonna take some sorting and compromise!!!

That’s all well and good, which teams are in which division?

I don’t see that happening at all. Only my opinion. The biggest threat to completing this season is how to deal with contract and loan expiry “Mid season”. The biggest threat to not completing it is Sky asking for their money back. If EFL can plan on basis of finishing by 30th July, then clubs and players can decide whether to extend contracts / loans by one month or not....with a rule that no player can register for a new club or go back (from their loan) and play for their own club.

You’re right as I’m led to believe from reading other stuff. If we take a few scenarios relevant to City players: Matty Taylor - contract exp. 30.06, on loan at Oxford. Go out of contract on 01.07, but then not be able to register for anyone until 20/21 season, plus the likes of Oxford unlikely to be in a great position to offer him the deal they were expecting to pre-CV. Might be better (if leagues rules allow) to extend loan spell short-term and see where the land lies at the end of the season, whenever that is. Niclas Eliasson - assume City have exercised option, contract exp. next summer, player looking to leave. Pre-CV, City would’ve been looking at a good fee (profit against what they paid), and Nic looking at doubling / tripling his wages. Post-CV buying clubs might go with a cheeky offer, but likely to now be offering lower wages. Might he be better sitting tight until next summer, or even sitting down and discussing a new contract protecting him from football re-setting itself financially. There is gonna be a big gamble from players and clubs as to whether to carry on as normal or rein in their spending.

Should be somewhere sensible to avoid travel to London.

Possibly an option to convert to Robinstv instead.

I certainly hope so. Moral compass needs resetting. He’s very opinionated, but he’s really good to read. Not all about the Premier League is it! Ali Darden has just tweeted that Rick Parry has notified club of a proposal to complete season with full play-offs. Clubs to return to training no earlier than 16th May. I read into this, 2 week “pre-season”, games start 1st June, everything done and dusted by end of July, which would mean players out of contract on 30th June might be covered by existing club still having to pay them for the month of July. All, obviously subject to the bastard Virus!!

Next they need to consider the rules for loan contracts ending end of May / June. But some common sense being applied imho.

He means reduced Bristol City coverage from the team that is left. I messaged him earlier.

Yes, was mainly referring to top two tiers in football. Sorry, I wasn’t clear, meant with tv revenues they shouldn’t gamble it all. Non-football business is a totally different kettle of fish I accept. I wish the media wouldn’t band around the 20%....it is only an applicable percentage to those on less than £2500pm....which does cover a large proportion of employees, but not all.

At the end of day if a club cannot go 3 months in contingent mode, it is a pretty sad indictment of their planning. It shows how close to the wire they are running, how much they are gambling. That applies to pretty much every club, big or small. The CJRS has been poorly introduced. The concept of retaining employees is good, but the rules are open to abuse. And businesses driven by money, will exploit it. They are exploiting it, and not just in football.

Julian Dicks went to Brum to in early mid-80s. Best player I played against as a kid.

I only saw him in his testimonial.

Either / Both ??

I’d be very worried if I was a Derby supporter. I’m not sure now is the time to be taking loans out. Suggests that the ground sell got them sorted for the period up to 18/19....perhaps this covers the next period (and beyond) and maybe a change in amortisation model?? Only speculating.

No he’s Colonel Sanders.

@lager loud Mezze Downend stopping all food (takeaway and delivery). That’s this Friday or Saturday stuffed (no pun).

If true, just makes my stance about never going into a Spoons again feel even better. What a cockwombling, wankpuffining c£€t.