The Dolman Pragmatist

11 hours ago, Street red said:

And if it wasn't for Nigel Pearson and Gould the club would be in a very s*** position.

Well, that is unless someone else had come in and done a better job.

38 minutes ago, Isawjonshaw said:

Frank would want £ to spend.  End of chat.

“End of chat”?  You ITK then?

1 hour ago, DaveInSA said:

At some point a manager who wins something has to win something. He may not have won something before. It doesn't mean that they won't win anything in the future.

Is automatic promotion in second place winning - nope. It's coming second.

Fred Ford 1965

Alan Dicks 1976

Terry Cooper 1984

Joe Jordan 1990

John Ward 1997

Gary Johnson 2007…

They won nothing?

1 hour ago, bearded_red said:

This absolute ******* king.

Well, apart from his win ratio…

1 hour ago, Glen hump said:

Been told by a few people who would definitely know that tinnion has a little bit to much of a voice at the club  and it’s not particularly helpful at times 

Who are the ‘few people’ who have told you this?  I don’t need to know their names, just some indication of how they would ‘definitely know’.  Thanks.

8 minutes ago, Meh said:

Personally I have long considered Brian Tinnion a brown noser but the problem is you call him out on X and you get all the “you’re a legend Tins” brigade all over you.

Great player but shit manager who should be out of football matters once a player gets promoted to the first team squad training.

I am sure his worshippers will be all over this - ready, steady, go

Meh.

2 minutes ago, Atticus said:

I can also recognise an egomaniac narcissist when I see one. And Steve Lansdown is this. He will always inevitably be a detriment to the football club because of his immaturity to handle competent good managers. 

That’s pretty strong stuff.  I suppose anyone who plugs as much money into sport as Steve Lansdown has is bound to have some egotistical characteristics, but a narcissist?  Really?  You thenfollow that up with an accusation of immaturity, which bus a very odd thing to suggest of someone if Lansdown’s age.

As far as I can see, Lansdown’s main failings have been to put too much trust into some individuals, and to be too cautious when a little daring was called for.  However we are a mid table Championship club with more secure finances than some, so it’s hard to see him as ‘inevitably to the detriment of the club’.  Managers come and go, and I’m sure Pearson was savvy enough to know that his position after (by today’s standards) quite a long tenure and little progress in terms of league positions was always likely to be insecure.

Pearson has a record of gaining cult status amongst fans at various clubs, but has fallen out with most owners he’s worked for.  What has happened at City seems pretty much par for the course.

33 minutes ago, Dolman_Stand said:

History would suggest Fleming will be in the mix.....

Since the 1960s I can only think of three deputies that took over: Joe Jordan (first time), Keith Millen and  Dean Holden.  Of those, Jordan was a popular appointment and Millen was a no-brainer as Coppell had walked out leaving us in the lurch.

14 minutes ago, winsaw said:

Thats one of the saddest things I have ever read as it's so so true and exactly what will happen, we really have no hope 

”so true” and ”exactly what will happen”?  Do you know something that we don’t?  If not, why get so sad when you really have no idea what will happen?  Cheer up, things may actually get better, you never know.

1 minute ago, Antman said:

my big fear is they are happy to sit out this injury crisis without comment, but given a few more losses will sack Pearson as 'not performing'

 

They should be vocal in their support - It's a spineless lack of leadership.

Having manipulated the ownership of the club over a long period,presumably with a view to cashing in,  SL doesn't seem to have a queue of suitors at his door and is battening down the hatches again, as we've seen him do before.

add to that an actual manager who speaks his mind and it's an ugly situation.

Sorry mate, I’m sure you’re a true city fan, but that’s totally over the top.  How many clubs would send their owner out to discuss an injury crisis?  Lots of guess work here, and “a spineless lack of leadership”?  Really?  How do you know what goes on inside the club?

There’s no ugly situation, just a side struggling with an awful injury crisis. 

51 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said:

Christ almighty

No shame if lose today

Well no shame on Pearson and the team

Shame on Lansdown more like

Please explain.  Are you holding Lansdown responsible for our injury situation?

6 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said:

We miss Naismith massively 

We miss Zak just as much, but Dickie was excellent tonight, particularly in the second half, and Andy King gave 100% too.

I thought we played well tonight and shaded the second half.  Don’t understand the criticism of Yeboah - that was the best I’ve seen him play - and the substitutions made a real difference.  I’d certainly start Cornick on Saturday…
 

11 hours ago, And Its Smith said:

My thoughts are that it’s one minute of paying respect to something so nothing to get annoyed about really. If you don’t like it then suck it up for 60 seconds.  

I think that’s what people do.  My concern is that that the regular minutes of silence have devalued the whole notion of the minutes silence.  Rather like the standing ovation (not just in football) is now accorded to anyone who says or does something vaguely above average.

1 hour ago, Ivorguy said:

Great result from cobbled together side.  Shows the importance of esprit de corps. Well done Nige and the coaching staff.

Is that the same coaching staff that decided we should go three at the back for the first 38 minutes.

Who’s J.James?

15 hours ago, tin said:

Yep. Never mind, as long as Steve’s got his £30m nest egg 

Aye, outrageous that he doesn’t just hand over all his money for the benefit of Bristol City.  How dare he keep some for himself.

16 hours ago, Maltshoveller said:

Mentality monsters

Bruno - Rashford - Sancho - Shaw -Martial are some of the most spineless players i have ever seen

A little surprised to see Rashford in that list.  I’ve never regarded him as spineless, on or off the field.

2 minutes ago, The chief said:

Weve been disappointing 2nd half. Had something to hang on at 1-1 but very little composure in the ball . Caught in possession way too many times when we could have got through them. I know it was a close game but 2nd half very poor football from us. Subs didn’t work either and was a shame to see Tgh not shifted into midfield with the changes. 

I thought we did well in the second half, without threatening their goal as much as we would have wanted.

31 minutes ago, phantom said:

Exactly this, people only really remember his amazing last ditch free kick and him running around a lot

Many glaze over the fact that his total lack of positional discipline that day created numerous problems for us 

This reminds me a bit of that line from Blackadder 4 when they’re talking about the football match in No Man’s Land and Rowan Atkinson complains “I was never offside!”.  The Beckham free kick was sublime.  I’m astonished that anyone can even remember what went on before that.  

35 minutes ago, Tinmans Love Child said:

I think the point is this sort of thing wouldn't happen anywhere else apart from at a football match

Really?  I’m not condoning what these individuals did, but I suspect that ‘banter’ involving extreme bad taste goes on throughout society.  And that’s the problem for me: this is an example of extreme bad taste which most people are likely to find very offensive, but is that a criminal offence?  Many comedians have built their acts on extreme bad taste, but at what point does something in poor taste become criminal?

16 minutes ago, Bob Turnip said:

 

How do you define "clearly see" though? Wherever you draw the line it will still need VAR to determine whether it's offside for the close calls. I think the reason was human error. Need to look at control measures to stop it happening again.

 

Make it daylight between the attacker and the last defender; and change the rule so that you have to be offside when the pass is made and when the pass is received to stop this nonsense about coming back from an offside position.

2 hours ago, Derek said:

You need to analyse the types of passes being made.

Anyone can pass the ball 5 yards sideways. 

Yes, but the 5-yard sideways pass is often (if not usually) the right pass.  The player who plays the 5-yarder rather than going for the killer pass is likely to be doing the right thing.  Good football is based on the 5-yard pass.

24 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

We definitely need to talk about Adelina Yard. 

I'm giving that place an 8 and a half cans of Natch out of 10. 

Just a couple of pics below of the amuse bouche and dessert. But the stand-out dish was smoked eel. That is, pieces of smoked eel, in a smoked eel custard with puffed rice amongst other ingredients. I don't like smoked dishes, or eel in particular, but this dish was fantastic. Partridge (not Alan) main was exceptional, and even the petit fours Somerset cyder fruit jellies were magnificent.

Full attention to detail. This is comfortably one of the best restaurants in Bristol. 

Their 4 course lunch for £38 Weds-Fri  is frankly an absolute bargain given the levels of cooking on display. 

Sorry but I refuse on principle (and probably political grounds) to eat at any restaurant that uses the term, let alone serves, an ‘amuse bouche’.  Should be closed down immediately.  I regard anyone who favours an ‘amuse bouche’ as my class enemy.

2 hours ago, GrahamC said:

McClaren said subsequently that whilst with us he was consistently troubled by a hip injury that caused him to retire at Oxford not too long after we had swapped him for Gary Shelton, so it is the case that we absolutely did not ever see the Derby County player in BS3.

Galliers was in my opinion a terrible footballer, a complete stranger to the ball, he had a certain reputation because he came to us from Wimbledon where he fitted in seamlessly because (like Dave Martin) he kicked anything that moved. He was awful for us but because of this Crazy Gang kicking opponents stuff, he’s looked back on more fondly than he deserves, when actually he was shit.

Next stop for him was Maidstone United, that really says it all.

There was a good reason we had awful results that season, that side looked far better on paper than grass.

Perhaps I was just fascinated by the fact that such a diminutive figure could be such a violent little s*d!

57 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Loads of the other players here McClaren, Galliers, Pender, Milne, Shutt didn’t work out or in a couple of cases like the first two, were simply terrible.

I’d dispute that McClaren and Galliers were terrible.  Both were good players: McClaren was a classy midfielder and Steve Galliers was a little terrier, particularly given that at the time I believe he was the shortest player in league football.  However Joe Jordan clearly didn’t think they were quite what we needed, because he brought in Dave Rennie and converted him from a centre half to midfield; Paul Wimbleton, who was not a success; and then the ace in the pack, Gary Shelton.

Bob Taylor was exchanged for Carl Shutt  just before the March transfer window in 1989., so it’s got to be late 1988 hasn’t it?