Better Red

17 hours ago, YCbrs said:

He didn’t get picked for one game? Wow he must be shit then I stand corrected.

At last finally… 

Also did not get picked to come on as sub in a game we were losing. 

The only attribute that most people single out - he can pass forward and yet still no preferred Benerous an 18 year old. 

Why? Because he is just not up to this level.

Again I will say with confidence won’t even be in the squad come January.

I might be wrong, but I am not. How do I know - I have watched him play to many times and it’s obvious.

11 minutes ago, YCbrs said:

20/20 mate, check yours.

Yep it’s fine.

Just checked the stats Bakinson zero minutes… 20/20 

1 minute ago, underhanded said:

I want to caveat this with the fact I'm a Massengo fan, but it's funny what a lot of running around does for fan perception of player performance. Bakinson, I believe, has been far more useful than HNM in recent games, but has got all of the stick. HNM has been positionally poor and pretty wasteful for a few games now. Not unexpected for a young man, especially in a team that hasn't been paying well, but still interesting that he has has near to zero criticism, whilst Bakinson gets pelters on here.

Running a lot does not equal good. I often fall into that trap, but it really isn't the case

Don’t let me start on HNM…

But what he does do is put effort In.

Bakinson effort as my previous post is a disgrace.

Scott, Pring, Benerous, Tanner they all put him to shame

26 minutes ago, YCbrs said:

I’m well aware the author of this post was taking the owen, however the fact he can’t see there is a player in Bakinson makes him look more of a **** than me regardless of whatever anyone says. I don’t play football manager and I don’t think I’m a manager. I’m just not blind.

Author not taking the Owen.

Just saying what I see.

Always unpopular on here despite it being correct.

There is no player in there now and there never will be.

Just not good enough at this level.

I would check the eyes though….

1 hour ago, JoeAman08 said:

And James has been ******* dreadful. Spends his whole game passing to Kalas and Vyner. We have no one now to find our forwards and we look worse for it. 
 

And Nige agreeing with you doesn’t exactly help your argument  dreadful dinosaur tactics 

James…. Passed it into the net as well.

33 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said:

I think so too but I will credit James for a better second half.
 

First half always felt like his intent was to turn and pass backwards even not under pressure. 

Second half thought he found space better and looked for the forward pass when he could. 

Can’t stop laughing Bakinson better than James Priceless

6 minutes ago, redsince1994 said:

In your opinion 

And Niger’s…..

Did not even get on the pitch today.

Even when we are losing he still went to Benerous instead of Bakinson.

Like I say won’t even be in the squad in January.

2 minutes ago, YCbrs said:

Say what you want about NP but I trust his judgment on a young player a lot more than yours. 

And me

4 minutes ago, Colemanballs said:

In fairness, there was an element of trolling the troll to my post. However, I did think we missed Bakinson's calmness, positional discipline and attacking threat. Personally, I'd have liked to see him in place of either Weimann or HNM.

Bakinson’a what? Yeah key man.

He literally brings nothing.

You do know who Bakinson is right?

2 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said:

And James has been ******* dreadful. Spends his whole game passing to Kalas and Vyner. We have no one now to find our forwards and we look worse for it. 
 

And Nige agreeing with you doesn’t exactly help your argument  dreadful dinosaur tactics 

And he is still better than Bakinson.

Nige agreeing sort of does help…. 
 

Not my fault he agrees with me. 
 

47 minutes ago, redsince1994 said:

Obsessed

And right…

On 04/12/2021 at 22:32, JoeAman08 said:

Yes honestly. He is a very good player. I’d pick him over James personally. At his best think he offers more than James. But the sub was a good one today. Personally I’d have one or the other. Not both on the pitch at the same time. So it is a preference thing. For me, today, it 100% suited Bakinson and his vision more than James and his graft. Thought James was excellent when he came on but can’t play every game so having both is a good situation. 
 

Personally just think it is disgusting the abuse Bakinson gets. I am not sure he has ever been the worst player on the pitch. Yet he gets talked about like he is of conference level. That is not the case. You have to build a midfield to support Bakinson at his current ability and maybe not as much so for James. But we are dealing with a 23 year old in his second season at this level. NP has made his statements about players not committed yet Bakinson has been involved to almost Weimann and Martin levels and has gotten an extension. It is clear he is rated. Yet @Better Redwants rid. We are a championship club and we won’t get a complete player at any position. 

Nige agrees with me….. surprised ?
 

Dropped him to the bench as soon as he could.

Give it a few more weeks and won’t even get in the squad.

League 1 bound.

Of course I maybe wrong but then again I doubt it….

And COD

Make that nearer £40m

That’s about £35m plus….

17 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said:

I know we've signed a fair few over the years but does anyone have a list of them?

It might be interesting to see how many went on to better things?

Cole, Akinbiyi and Webster are the obvious ones that hit the heights but we must have signed quite a number over the years?

Believe it or not plenty in our squad

Can pretty much make a team of them

Kalas

Atkinson

Baker

Wieman

 Bentley

JD

Palmer

Wells 

Massengo

Williams 

1 hour ago, The Swan and Cemetery said:

Great that you’ve come ‘round to this point of view, honesty is always the best policy. 

Good spot.

If only others on this forum could see that clearly and point out that Bakinson is clearly not up to standard.

Having read must  if the above where people are saying he is young, it’s his physique, he faded in the second half, he size makes him look lazy etc..

I can only conclude that most people do actually agree with the post but for some reason just can’t bring themselves to say he is not good enough.

I just don’t understand why others can’t bring themselves to say it.

Its not like he is the first or the last that will not be good enough that’s a certainty (Fact but an opinion)

Its ok to say some players are good enough and TB falls on to that category.

So pleas just be honest it’s ok.

11 hours ago, Bodiesaffer said:

 

@Better Red what would help Bakinson to be a better player?

Effort. 
Tracking back

Tackling

Strength on the ball

A few to start with.

26 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Well said.  And you don’t exercise a club option I’d you’re looking to move him to Lg1 anytime soon.  The likelihood in this current market is that players dropping down a league are T likely to command much if anything of a fee (unless Ipswich are buying ).  In which case you’d just kept his contract run down.

Nige is trying to get the best out of the resources he has.  Some players won’t be here if he gets the squad to where it needs to be, but the constant “Bakinson Lg1” stuff is a bit boring, especially when it comes after a win, or worse when it’s been part of a poor team performance where there really isn’t a need to scapegoat anyone.

Logic flawed…

Boring…

Really because I am right.

I am not scapegoating him we won.

Pre judged comment partly true that’s because he is a disgrace every time he plays.

Was he better yesterday - No

Never said fact it’s clearly just an opinion.

Its just happens to be right based on facts. The facts are watching him play and then applying my brain processing skills based on my knowledge of watching football.

That tells my he is ‘below the standard that this club needs to progress, tell me I am wrong - Silence…

Then he ain’t good enough so stop talking rubbish.

I am not sure if it’s just hope on your parts to wish he gets better or it’s just you can’t judge a player.

I don’t suffer that problem I can see a player who is or is not good enough.

Sadly for Bakinson he is not good enough. 
 

Sure I could be proved wrong but we all know deep down I won’t.

Just because he is young 23 (young?)he will get better. Yes you are right but it won’t be at this football club or at this level.

I will repost in a few weeks (maybe even Saturday) when he can’t even get into the team and again in January when he won’t even be in the squad.

Will look forward to your comments then.

3 hours ago, sh1t_ref_again said:

Lucky we have people who understand football unlike you

Nige did yesterday he dragged him off at the first opportunity.

17 minutes ago, YGBjammy said:

Our CM picks are probably:

James

Williams

King

Massengo

Bakinson

Sorry but we can't expect the 5th best CM at the club to be tearing up trees. We're not man city

Not 5th best according to JoeAman08 but No 1..

I would put Beneraus and Scott before him on that list. I would rather play both instead of him at least they will give 100% effort every game even if not in the best position.

14 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said:

 how can you preserve an asset but he is a L1 or L2 player? How much we making off him if Accrington come in for him?  surely we’d be better off letting him leave on a free?

Mate get a few glasses of water down you. Maybe some ibuprofen and paracetamol and sleep this off mucker. 

I would let him go for free will never get rid of for a fee. Poor decision by the club

Bakinson is better than James… I am still laughing 

You must be on the wind up.

10 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said:

@Better Redon the piss tonight. Good wind up lad got me going for a minute

‘Bakinson over James’… You must be the only one who will ever say that..

And even better ‘ he is a very good player’ come on is L1 at best 

‘Not sure he has been our worst player on the pitch’ -Today? The game before that I could go on…

Thats all you had to say. 

Possibly the most ridiculous statement anyone has posted this year.

Yea I do want rid.. 

Contract extended to protect an preseved asset not because he is rated..

Only rated by you.

Bettet than James priceless

Just now, johnheadbcfc said:

A disgrace is watching nicky hunt player for bristol city.

We can both agree on that.

Just now, johnheadbcfc said:

Not because of the yellow card ?

No because he is a disgrace.

we know who won’t get another yellow for a late tackle because I have barley seem get close enough to tackle.

1 minute ago, JoeAman08 said:

Content like this make me think I should retire from the forum. Absolutely the wrong day to slag this man off. 
 

I have been critical of Bakinson in the tackle and going into 50/50 balls. He didn’t shirk tackles today. He went into the odd aerial battle. All that with his normal quality on the ball getting his head up and looking for runners. 
 

Idk what you expect from city players but sounds like you want Bakinson to be Vieira reincarnated. He is at Bristol City for a reason. We don’t have a complete midfielder at the club. Bakinson adds what no one else can which is vision and a forward pass. The abuse of the lad is embarrassing. 

You mean honesty.

2 hours ago, Shockwave said:

He is a lightweight stroller

Just not good enough 

We keep hoping his performance will change but it doesn't 

At last someone who actually watched him play.