lenred

Some very tired ramblings from me. It was a great day and night. We snuck into one of their pubs called the Nav. It was a brilliant place - great beer, and a big area outside with bbq, another bar and a huge screen to watch AFCON. Nearly got rumbled when I couldn’t get the door and when I said thanks to the kind gent who opened it said he said ‘no probs me duck’ and then muttered to his mate ‘he’s a tractor’ At the game it was a great atmosphere from the City end and tbf to Forest on the few occasions they awoke from their slumber they did make a racket. Didn’t happen often though….. Thought Forest were poor - Turner looked a liability and none of their players looked up for it apart from Filipe. For us, as others have already said Joe Williams was absolutely outstanding. Knight and King very good. Max pulled off some great saves. Dickie was immense. We were really really good. Then the subs happened bang on 60 mins and it just changed. We seemed to go into our shell and became overawed and it took us 15/20 mins to get back into our stride. Again I don’t know why they were made but I was pretty cross in real time as were a lot of others around me. I haven’t watched the highlights yet as can’t bring myself to go through it but I can’t believe the chances we’ve let go. And then it’s pens and it’s a lottery and there we are. We deserved to win so much amd were fantastic on and off the pitch, and I’m still absolutely gutted as I’m sure many are but there we go. Onwards!

0-2. Shame.

The Pieces are probably watering the pitch as we speak to try and force a postponement

Aren’t they the top scoring team at home in the division? Not sure they would’ve learnt anything from our borefest last Friday. Chalk and cheese.

Maybe not. But I did and I continue to expect us to be top 10 this season. So if that isn’t achieved (and it wont be at this rate) then that will be on Manning. And the style of football that we are playing is very much down to him also. So again he will be judged on that. Let’s hope there’s an upturn soon.

He will of course get more time. Probably a lot more time. But I think we have seen enough now to be able to start to form an opinion which, very much of course, may well alter over further time. My opinion now is what we are being served up is not anywhere near what we were promised by the clowns at the top. That it’s not front foot football. That our players have not improved one iota due to more ‘time on the grass’ (if anything some key players have regressed) and as aforementioned we look toothless in the main. I very much hope we can get some joy at the City Ground on Weds night and hoping the late night will be worth it for all of us going up there, but the cup cannot detract from the bread and butter of the League, and that form needs to improve rapidly.

Agree re the cup games. Second half v West Ham away for me was especially good. And we’re not getting hammered at all. But we are bottom of the form table and to me it’s beginning to become a worry now how lacklustre and inept we look on the final third of the pitch. Completely toothless and rigid.

Yep. We were really in the throes of building something really really good and promising it felt - dare I say it in a Luton type manner that the charlatans running our club profess to love and admire so much. Togetherness, a great resilience (even at Cardiff away playing a load of kids), a toughness to beat with a great counter attacking prowess led by a new home grown star striker in the making who clearly loved working under Pearson. It’s all gone to shit thanks to the clowns at the top though. We’ll be in a group of 6 this season - it’ll be the bottom 6 though, not the top!

Losing all the experience is a big concern for me. You need to retain the older heads to pull the young ones through. Would Scott and Tommy have progressed so well without King’s and Andi’s clear support for example. Moot I guess but I don’t think they would’ve. Also raises concerns about Manning’s management style IF we don’t retain or recruit experienced pros. But we will see how things pan out.

Russell Martin is nothing like Manning in any way, save for age group. He’s upbeat, passionate and extremely confident (bordering on cocky). To compare him with Manning is laughable.

Great work @phantom thank you for the updates

And if all the above had happened under Pearson’s watch then god knows what the top medical experts Lansdown and Tinnion would’ve said. This is what grates. The double ‘ing standards. That’s not slagging Manning. That’s slagging JL and BT for those who need clarification!

That save at the end on Friday night - if any Prem keeper made it people would be milking themselves over it. Amd he made plenty of others v West Ham home and away. FWIW and I’ve said it before I don’t think he is good enough for top 6, but he’s fine for where we actually are as opposed to where we apparently want to be. And he isn’t league 1.

Ffs…..hes ****** up but he’s not a ‘clown’. You see the saves he’s pulled off recently to keep us in games? Or are you just jumping on him at any opportunity.

They might not be top 6 championship standard (moot) but all 3 are very much championship squad standard.

It was already a worry and now it’s becoming a pretty serious issue. Ita a very simple basic and we just can’t seem to get it right. It’s really really poor and again as said before it needs addressing.

Fantastic result away from home but so so gutting to give it away at the end. Anyway, always take a point away. Onwards!

Nor a throw in!

Cock*******womblidge

I know the ticket price put a few off that were swaying between going and not because of next week and West Ham twice etc. Over £20 for a 12 year old as well.

Very much hope that’s right.

Friend who told us this on Friday night said his source said it’s a bad quad and it’s ‘up to 3 months’. I seriously hope he isn’t right!

The sale was in a separate accounting period to the one you’re being charged over. There is no ‘whether’ about it. Hope you get done for it. Sick of clubs like yours taking the piss and then bleating over it.

Yep. Jackson Vs Mahomes will be

Will watch the first. Not a chance in hell for the second!