REDOXO

People knocking Weimann with the ‘he runs around a lot’ tag is laughable when that really is part of the problem. We have nine out field players that don’t run around enough. It’s why we get passed through so much. Ten effing men just beat us 3/1 in 45 minutes as they had more stamina and nouse than an an entire team. We can’t even track players or run back marking them. What shit is this.

I’m not going to get to much into it. But they are second in a league where at least six clubs would **** us everyweek.

He’s worse than Vyner at the moment? Please!

Thank you Private Frazer. Not backing Cotts is a subject a few on here know something about. God knows what the issues were. But as I remember it SL didn’t like Cotterill’s offers for Gayle and the other bloke. It all went bad from there and we ended up trying to sign Sack Cloth as a striker. LJ was as inept as it got. Except for Holden of course.

Taylor Moore gets an assist in a 5/2 win. I can see someone coming back here come January!

Oooh the early 80s just for starters. Of course the administrators helped with that. At least a couple of times since then. Most of the time it means nothing just people blowing off steam. However from a personal perspective this is the maddest I’ve been this season. Wtf. Last minute goals to against Forest, but a 45 minute shitfest where we lost 3/1 to ten men. Ffs!

Exactly. The sack the board mentality is alive and well on this forum. Change of ownership means a willing buyer!

?? I have no doubt this is true. Ably assisted by Holden and Jon Lansdown. However until a deal goes through to buy Bristol Sport nothing will change. So we best all buckle up and pray an Asian/Middle Eastern businessman/consortium buys it all!

I think they are sent out with shape etc etc etc etc. However they get pulled around bullied and out played because some are simply not that good or don’t care enough or both Particularly in the center of the field. We don’t create much and Kalas is left trying to hold it all together with a constantly pressured back four. We need battlers with a bit of skill, what we have is fairies with limited pride. ODOWDA is defensively poor. HNM adds nothing except the odd drag back. Bakinson couple of great passes today, shame about the other 88 minutes. DeSilva is a waste of a wage. Vyner looks good until he effs it up. Our center forward has the pace of a sloth. Williams is ducked constantly. As is Baker. I could go on and on. We have Bentley Kalas Weimann who put in the effort and are good enough. The two League one signings are constantly under pressure but try at least. Maybe next year. I guess they will look good in league one.

You maybe right. But it was worth a shot. What’s the weather like in the Caribbean right now?

Personally I don't go along with anything that implies that Lansdown doesn't care. He does, however we are a strange club. The board of directors is a sham. The decisions that matter (not everyday) are made by one person. But being as we have had 4 years in the last 111 years in the top flight I suspect it wouldn't have made much of a difference. We are what we are, a backwater football club that top managers threaten their players with loans to and I am beginning to think SL is not capable of changing that!

At HT I said to Mrs Oxo, we are one nil up and playing ten men. ONLY WE COULD MESS THIS UP! And it came to pass! I tweeted Twentyman 'I feel sick' at the final whistle, then I tweeeted it to Jon Lansdown... This season has been one kick in the guts after another. Personally I think Pearson has taken on Ashton, Holden's LJs SLs and JL's poison chalice and he knew it. Our injuries are mounting up again, we are putting our hopes in players across the club who seem helpless and hapless who can not run, shoot, pass, tackle or have any basic technical ability! After that and the meaningless post match presser I'm glad I have two weeks off!

Beep Beep Beep Beep Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

YES, he has! The constant bigging up of this boy gets right up my nose. If he is anywhere near the team from the start or as a sub we will concede goals. He looks good with some aspects of his play but he is part of the problem not the solution....I know this is an unpopular view and I'm not picking on him anymore than the other crap we have in there but he is a youngster playing in a crap midfield that will provide little in a battle....

The rumour is he’s close to a deal. Which if true would explain the silence.

Not sure that’s fair. I referred to the aggressive thread that already exists which in of itself shows I’m not speaking on behalf of everyone. I guess you (plural) read into things what you will and judging by the likes etc I am obviously expressing thoughts agreed by some/ many!

Yeah. I’m a bit more than disappointed too. But i was trying to take the right tone. The lunatics can shout into their keyboards the rest of us like yourself need to keep our heads. But to be clear we are awful. :laugh:!

Mate your link doesn’t work!?

I know you and Mrs L do pop in here fairly regularly. I also note another thread that starts in a frustrated manner. Yes we are a disappointed bunch right now. Things are not going well on the field in several areas, we are a bit/a lot shot shy the midfield can not retain possession and the forwards have nothing to work with and are just hoping for defensive mistakes Not great. However The manager is doing what he can with what he has been given and I suspect we are not far away from a couple of new faces from the academy starting soon Just keep with the plan. Pearson is the right bloke for this job at a club where Pep would struggle right now. Its going to be a fight over the next few months and hopefully we can gather a 16 that are up for it from within and perhaps spend a little cash when allowed.

What a mess, anyone talking about rebuilds and transfer windows needs to read that spreadsheet. God Pearson has inherited/taken on a problem. The wages being pumped out on that lot must be obscene.

Yes I wrote something similar recently. @Davefevs you know this stuff who is OOC at the end of the season? Atkinson and Tanner are here for a while as is Weimann and Baker has 18 months. However the wages of those Mentioned in your post must be massive. Movement is clear and This will be a part of bringing the costs down toward a break even level. Pearson took on the poison chalice, that has one thing going for it, it’s youth policy. The thought of any midfield with HNM in it when either defending our goal or getting a late one is vital fills me with trepidation, this goes for Bakinson too. Vyner was shown up by just the merest nudge by Deeney yesterday and My mum has more pace than Martin. Buckle up City fans. We are in trouble all over.

Yes I nipped out to The Rams Trust site....Nearly all of the questions come at it like they are in some kind of battle with an idiot organization that hates them for no apparent reason....Brushing over millions of unpaid taxes, failure to submit accounts with multiple rule breaches a ground that doesn't belong to the club anymore and being in administration....WOW! Donald Trump should run for MP for Derbyshire with that level of Cognitive Dissonance.

I added to the previous post as Hxj's view is different and he knows loads more than me.

Exactly, with your last sentence.... I'm just saying that right now the players have to be paid. Paying the players income tax must be part of the players wages, as such HMRC must be currently being paid on current wages. The 25m is for previously unpaid... HOWEVER if HMRC is not being paid currently then yes that should trigger the deduction as its the players taxes as such their money........Nevertheless, @Hxjwho has infinitely more knowledge says that it does not mean that and the Inland Revenue may not be being paid....WOW. What a mess....

Thanks Lads. Yep I was a member of their board for three years (well before this hit the fan) for a number of reasons, but got kicked off! ok here we go! Ok so the administrator will be publishing figures and unless there is something strange going on they must be what is being handed to the interested party’s. Who obviously will be doing their due diligence internally prior to a Letter of Intent. Do we know if they have received a LoI? Yes the appeal always looked a Hail Mary to add some value, however it was sliced. Yes interested party’s is a very loose term. I’m interested in lots of things! I suppose it goes back to my previous comment about an LoI. Also what is in the minds of the purchaser. Some might like to rebuild a club and not bother with all of the current charade with appeals or over paid players and huge debt to HM GOVT. The idea of appeals could be completely flawed, but the administrator gets paid either way. Ok so if I’m understanding correctly Derby start next season minus three if wages are not paid to players. I guess the income taxes are a part of that, so we can all assume HM REVENUE are getting paid players taxes and NI contributions. we are unclear as to FFP Penalty up to this point as it’s only Morris that has mentioned the number. The EFL are negotiating further with administrators, however there is nothing more sophisticated than leverage, so I would suggest the EFL could end them at any time and are only in them to try and give the administrators a fighting chance of them selling the club (Derby fans take note) So to be clear @Hxjthe missing three years accounts to the EFL is this another points deduction issue, or does this form part of the administrators negotiations? Thanks all this helps and anyone can pop in to this thread and know where we are at from here.