Harry

Not quite. 18 league goals. I've no doubt he'll reach 20, but at the moment, it's 18.

Exactly what I was thinking, ha ha!! It was only a matter of time. He's a fool.

It wasn't my quote fella. I was only stating that the 2 managers have a perception on here. One had the perception of not motivating players, the other has the perception of being a much better motivator.

And those thousands would be quite wrong.

Fair enough Glyn. To be honest, I never wanted to post anything about Cotterill at all, but my anger has gotten the better of me this last couple of weeks. I make a promise now, in front you Glyn, and all other otib'ers, that I am not going to talk about Cotterill again. I've made my position pretty clear on him and I'll rest at that. As far as comments on SC are concerned, I'll see you all at the end of the season.

Noggers - the one thing I agreed with him on was the interview immediately after his first game v Tamworth. He said that Marv was put into a deeper role because everyone knows he hasn't got the legs to be a box to box midfielder any more. The very next game (and in all subsequent games) he lets Marv do his box to box, every blade of grass performances. Ummmm, but, but Steve....you told us quite clearly and categorically he couldn't do that any more?! In short, the selection of Marv in that position v Tamworth was his easy option to drop Pack, whom he'd not rated when previously managing him, so he didn't even want to look at him. Pack clearly made him think differently in training and forced his place back.

To be perfectly honest, this is the only thing which is keeping me interested in football these days! I've lost complete touch with the Premier League over the last couple of seasons and actually hate watching it now. Keeping my eye on the lower leagues and youngsters is my passion now.

Sorry Robbo, forgot to answer this bit in my last post. How do we get out of it? Well, for starters, drop El Abd. Play 2 of Osborne, Flint & Williams as 2 CB's. Play Cunningham at LB. If he doesn't like Moloney (clearly not), then go out and loan a genuine RB. Drop Barnett and put Baldock back up top. START with 2 wingers in home matches. How's that for starters?

Yep, we were always 'in' games with P'boro being the only exception. That was the ONLY game we lost by a margin of more than 1 goal. We are now being beaten convincingly and are very much 'out' of games. I'm not trying to over-egg it Robbo, it's what I genuinely believe. As Italian Dave's post pointed out, in all bar the P'boro game, we could have got something with a bit more luck, concentration, composure etc. In recent games under SC, we are nowhere near.

Yep - this is exactly the words he will use to get the fans 'onside'. I see through this, it's false, but it will certainly afford him more time with a lot of fans because he's planted the seeds and they think he really cares about them. The only 'long term strategy' in his locker. Tell the fans how proud you are of them and they'll give you a few more games before calling you a useless ____!

Why did large amounts of people find it necessary to criticise every word of Sod's? Oh I get it - its ok to criticise a dour, sniffing Midlander, but we can't speak out against an arrogant Westcountryman. That's football bud. Manager interviews are the only thing which allows us to make an informed decision as to their personality. From what I've seen, I don't like his.

You're absolutely right Noggers, I don't like him. Have I made that too obvious. However, you're wrong with your 3rd sentence, I am justifiably criticising his words, as he takes no responsibility when the team loses, but praises himself to the hilt when they win. I don't like that trait in people.

It's a great interview if you are the type of fan who is blinded by bluster. Oooh, Steve's so angry, he must've really battered the players in the dressing room. For those who don't have the wool so easily pulled over their eyes, it's yet another interview of a man failing to take ownership and responsibility. Perhaps he'd like to explain using his astute tactical brain why our players are suddenly putting in performances which lack desire, motivation & professionalism. Perhaps they either don't like or don't understand your methods? Zero responsibility taken at any time, it's either the pitch, the wind, the tiredness or the players not doing what they're told. Oh, when we win though, it was his excellent substitutions, or motivational half time chats that were the catalyst. Bluff and Bluster.

Great Post fella. I'd also add that during our barren spell under Sod, I hardly heard (if at all) any criticism toward the 'attitude' of the players. There were many comments as to their ability but never was their attitude or professionalism brought into question. What we've seen since mid-January are more and more people questioning the players' professionalism, attitude, desire etc. So yes, whilst results weren't great up until mid-October, the performances were generally ok and we were always 'in' games. Now, we are getting a host of poor performances and are being resoundingly beaten in games, and the players no longer seeming to be motivated. Sod was supposedly NOT a big motivator according to a lot of people, whilst SC is paraded as this huge motivator. Seems the players recently aren't as motivated and 'up' for it as they were earlier in the season. That doesn't bode well.

Indeed Nick. Let's hope he sticks with my man Pack as well eh. Cotterill has dropped him a few times but hopefully the following stats will put an end to that : Pack Under Cotterill : Games NOT Started : Played 3, Lost 3. Games Started : Played 8, Won 3, Drawn 4, Lost 1 (and in that loss he was subbed at half time). So basically Steve, play Pack for 90 mins and you'll be fine. Oh, and make sure he's taking corners too. It's an easy game this Nick.

Absolutely, and I'll be the first to acknowledge that. Pre-match, having seen the line-up, it looked odd. I thought it looked as though it was going to be 3 at the back, with Osborne at wingback, with only Pack as a defensive minded midfielder. And I personally thought that would be disastrous. As it was, he went 4 at the back (gladly), and had Pack taking the corners (about time). Credit to SC for that (though it's what I'd have done weeks ago!)

Serves them right though! They called it off on New Years Day as they'd lost their first choice keeper and some others. By the time the rearranged game arrives, their keeper troubles worsened and it's come back to bite them, having to stick a total clown in the sticks. Screw You Orient. Justice.

Hell yeah!! Amen to all of that brother. Just glad we've benefited from their keeper woes - gawd knows we've had enough of our own this season!

He hasn't played a game for 3 years til last Saturday, we are the lucky beneficiaries of Orient's keeper injuries.

No. But maybe we shouldn't unnecessarily pop up on here every time he scores and say "where's the critics now then". We all want the best for him, as he plays for OUR club. But he's missed a hatful of chances this year and deserves the critics that have come his way.

Where's Dicksy??

I considered going too, but the 8 week old babber means I'm on call all evening at the mo!! Yep, I heard from the young lad you mention earlier - had a more straight forward journey up there than anticipated! AP sent me the email so I have the rather shrouded details!!, so I'll see if I can def make it.

Indeed, beggars can't be choosers. But beggars could have had the option of interviewing multiple candidates.

I think we're fortunate to be up against a keeper who hasn't played a first team game for nearly 3 years!! Bugger!!!!

Ha ha, yeah, not sure I've mentioned Pack before buddy. For what it's worth, if I had my way Pack would be at this club longer than SC. But we'll see on that too! Credit where it's due, if we pull off the unexpected 3 points tonight then well done all - and that includes SC. I don't want him to fail, he's in charge of MY football club. I just don't think he's my kinda bloke or my kinda boss. p.s. any spaces left on your Shropshire trip?