Nogbad the Bad

Pack, Reid, Gillett, Shorey looks a little weak - would like to see Wynter in that line up for Gillett.

Don't under stand why we put both Taylor and Harewood on the bench.. Would like another option like Burns to take one of their slots on the bench... But hey ho...

Harewood and Taylor both on the bench with no Burns is not just beyond my understanding, it's getting bloody irritating.

In terms of the stadium AG might produce 80% of the revenue, but does it take in the hotel, fast food and pub leasing income? I doubt it, also the Arena was due to be on the site producing even more leasing income/ car parking revenue.

 

AG is our home but it is definitely a poor second in terms of revenue.

A poor second, as in 20% less revenue, the lack of an hotel accounting no doubt for a large portion of that 20%.

I can't agree with that.

No doubt AG will packed full of as much conferencing/corporate hospitality as can be squashed in there, particularly the new williams stand.

But there's still no room elsewhere. Remember that that AV also had the ability to expand much further still. Space is all important, not just for capacity, but to be able to maximize match day sales from that capacity. It's not ideal having a bar in the stand which can only house a very limited number, and serve an equally limited number before match and at half time.

Ashton vale had a huge concourse, and being that little but further from north st means many more fans would drink there. Don't underestimate this.

AV would have been much more marketable, in terms of naming rights, as well as attracting businesses.

Imagine a leaflet or a web page...one has ashton gate, a cramped mishmash, minimal parking, ugly tower blocks looming over head...

The other a gleaming iconic red state of the art beacon, sat on a trunk road next to a park and ride, with a hotel on site.

One would beat off competition from the city centre, and possibly even cardiff, the other wouldn't.

 You can agree or not - 80% is the figure given by the club.

Your description of AG doesn't ring true with me - it's a fantastic traditional ground in a wonderful majestic setting with the park, pubs etc., and very much part of the local community. The plans for the redeveloped Gate will be it's next natural progression giving modern facilities, new income streams and increasing capacity whilst remaining on the footprint most of us are proud to call 'home'. Long may those local pubs thrive.

Your enthusiasm for AV with the 'trunk road, the park and ride and the hotel'  makes me feel a bit sick.

Long live Ashton Gate.

But do you really believe that? Who said it - an independent commission or the club spin doctors?

Let's be clear about this. Ashton Vale would blow Ashton Gate out of the water, which was the whole reason for going there. I'd be amazed if a redeveloped Gate hits as high as 60% the turnover of AV.

Yes.The executive boxes, restaurants, conference facilities etc. will all be there, as will a capacity only about 3,000 below AV.

Ashton Vale was never going to blow a redeveloped AG out of the water - that's where the exaggeration and spin was in the first place.

Sorry Nogbad But i think Arn has got it spot on.

The figure of 80% of the revenue came in a statement from a member of the board.

Out of interest, where exactly has your contrary information come from?

Dont think we should wallow in any piss take about what has happened at the Gas.

 

Still believe it will happen for them even if it takes a little longer.

 

For us though it seems totally dead and buried.

 

As many others has said developing the Gate will not produce a third of the income a brand new stadium would.

Don't know where you or anyone else got that from Arn, it's just not true.

It's been stated many times that a redeveloped AG would produce 80% of the maximum income Ashton Vale could achieve.

It will be by far the best stadium in the Bristol area even if Rovers eventually get the go ahead for their shockingly tedious and characterless bowl..

Plonker

Who cares about a hotel, it's got asbsolutely nothing to do with the ground, or football.

A redeveloped AG gives us 80% of the income we could have achieved at AV, and more than sufficient capacity.

I'll be delighted if it's confirmed we're staying at Ashton Gate.

As someone who was there, this doesn't ring true - anyone else agree/disagree??

It's true alright.

As an example RedM quoted her daughter, who was at the game, on 33 minutes:

'We're playing it around at the back and not getting forward, crowd very restless.' Post 78.

There were also a number of clearly audible individual shouts of impatience and discontent from the crowd at about the same time.

It may have seemed different actually at the game in certain parts of the ground, but this was the clear impression on the radio, and from at least one person at AG. 

bad day for the moaners

Crowd very restless and plenty of very audible moans coming from the AG crowd until we scored.

BBC saying attendance is 3763 is that right??

5,300 ish.

Jet blasts in a second.

3-0 City.

First touch by Burns, surging run and left foot shot into side netting.

Burns on for Wagstaff.

Very sort cameo, come on Wes.

Elliot scores, firing in bobbling ball after Pack beats two Dagenham defenders.

Jet's flick cross to far post, no one there.

Wilkinson tackle sends the ball over Dagenham bar.

 Corner comes to nothing

Dangerous Hines run ended by City block near penalty spot.

Marvin coming on for Reid.

Luke Wilkinson - ex- City - replacing Doe.

Dagenham defender Doe (?) injures himself making successful last ditch challenge on Jet.

Moloney tackled at full stretch on point of shooting.

Agogo slices his shot and fails to trouble Parrish.

Swindon 2 down to Macclesfield.

Baldock penalised, whistle goes to prevent free run at goal.

Wagstaff shot deflected by Dagenham hand.

No penalty given.

25 yard right foot piledriver from Jet flies just past the post.

Double substitution for Dagenham, now going 4-3-3.

Big shout for handball. Free kick to City.