Mr Popodopolous

I'll look into that. Reading are a divisional high. One apiece this season. However this has been going on for a while and tjsr quick stat aearch covers League only. Last season? Blackpool- 7 Huddersfield- 3 Millwall- 5 Preston- 5 For balance the divisional average does seem to be falling but this again is League only. Not really the club as such, consider it a bit of old school fans getting into refs. Bit of anger talking when I posted of course.

We can if we see fit extend until end of June to get the best possible deal if we need that option.

Yes, this. Of course they have the right to protest, but it's a weird hotchpotch with no overarching objective. Individual points I have some sympathy on, modern game has it's less positive elements albeit a lot of these the club has little say in. "What do we want?" "We don't know!" "When do we want it?" "We're unsure- ASAP!?"

I am happy about this, has assuaged my concerns somewhat that we might be under some kind of orders to raise January transfer revenue and fix the shortfall like Birmingham in 2019. That is in part a "Hands off" message as I don't see anyone paying £25m yet.

Takeover approved. Or that should be 85 pct of club...SISU retain a 15 pct stake. Final piece doesn't seem to be disclosed but maybe it will be findable.

Fair points. I am sceptical about whether we can get the lighting thing changed but it is also possible that the club are not exactly battling very hard over it. Same goes for some of our noisier fans being put where they are, SAG may have issues but it may also be something the club don't mind too much about. I would suggest on point 2 that the policing and stewarding bill would likely increase were the fans in closer proximity so the current status quo may suit the club just fine with that.

Sounds like you were spot on. Read some chatter the other week but yes seems to be confirmed today.

There was yes. Especially the back rows? I remember seeing it from the Atyeo in late 1990s, mid 2000's? Decent noise came from there and unsure when it faded.

That sounds about right. Some will be higher, some lower but I suspect we are somewhere around the average for cash losses/equity. £15-20m maybe a better range though maybe this drops a bit post Covid.

Of course, problem is if you are ambitious and aiming for the stars and don't get it with a few years...do you keep going or do you lose interest and the club withers. Let alone potential FFP penalties if you gamble, bet big- but lose.

There is some truth to that, anger talking but the record is beyond belief all told. At home the last penalty was during Covid season, October 31 2020, last one with fans I think was December 29th 2019. Yeah maybe VAR though I hate to say it as I don't much care for it tbh. Would be interesting to know? Reading have had 6 this season in the League, that Championship chart in August made for incredible reading and thst was August- Bcfc Pezza iirc.

There are ways he could walk away wirh a profit, would debt to equity conversion be included in a sale price I wonder. That aside to turn a profit on our current position vs what he has sunk in it would be difficult IMO. The £200m figure, is it net or is it gross? ie is this before or after interest on his loans or for a brief period, rent on Ashton Gate. There are for sure much easier ways that he could have turned a profit however.

Let's get a bit into them then. Let's really get on the backs of officials if this carries on, really make it horrible for them in most cases.

Let's look at some comparables shall we. Reading have 6 in the League this season. I wasn't aware that they were a great and free flowing attacking side posing a range of threats! Was anyone else?

Obviously Rovers and the odd Swindon fan it's a given but neutrals like Chelsea, Derby, WBA, fair enough why would they see much of us but some of the Tweets from non rival clubs are laughable.

Kent in part is a fairly rich area..in theory if Gillingham really got something going, one League club in the county could they grow significantly? In theory. In practice absolutely not hut a team representing Kent. A lot of PL fans there but if they could turn it round quickly who knows. If they could get excitement, capitalise then a bit of luck. Sleeping giant is fanciful but Kent had a population of nearly 2m so you tap into that, but still a rather long shot yes.

I wonder why we don't show them on club highlights that often. Not only should each penalty shout that is at least reasonable be on there, there should be a replay or 2 from different angles. We have video evidence of each wrong call against us, a few were bound to be incorrect calls. I also think that we should get right on officials backs from early in games often, really get into them as fans (verbally). Case by case obvs.

Two I thought it was, plus theirs was suspect too.

I'm largely behind the club on this one. Bit of pressure combined with a montage could be interesting...I started work on some shot data in the Autumn, could now be a good time to return. They might also add the Bennett non red card, the Sykes red but nothing in the build-up when a penalty was waved away, or Sykes was sandwiched and no foul and this I believe fed into the mindset which caused the red card and then Freeman only being booked. Then the Norwood non red vs Sheffield United.

West Brom are in fantastic form. You'll note that I said the 1st half only, the 2nd half they ran away with it. Squad is excellent all told, we outposssessed them and nearly equally shot them. Were we? Early on we attacked a bit, they attacked a bit more. Vyner caught badly. Agreed really build much until 35 mins in perhaps. What is Phillips header thst hits bar is an own goal and goes in though? 1-1 improvement, confidence- momentum? Stoke we conceded 2 very weak goals and were not very good but we hit the woodwork at 1 up. That goes in we probably win.

Seems we have asked for clarification on penalty record?? Plus the reasons behind it. I would also say 2 in a shade under 2 years or 2 in 2 years, 26 months and 10 days!! Fairly unprecedented no?

@gl2 Not necessarily the clubs fault that, that's part of the wider environment changes both in the game itself and government legislation. Having said that some clubs probably buy into it more than others.

Outshot Swansea, Stoke. Marginally outposssessed Stoke. Vs West Brom 1st half we were alright and seemed to have our chances- two interventions wirh the legs by Palmer and Phillips hit his own bar at 1-0. 2nd half another matter. Accept our performance overmatched by result at Rotherham, but think the two away points were not bad really.

Thanks for making a few things clearer. Aspects of it do get a bad name but aspects of it seem problematic for a Championship side losing money. Quick? 2-3 years. Thereafter maybe PE company House begin to get concerned. Plus if they want a quick promotion maybe they would seek to play fast and loose with FFP which if it fails can bring further issues. Agree the main way of a return is promotion to the PL. I'd be interested to know what percentage Pace at Burnley and the Glazers at Man United put in. Still think these two clubs much better placed to absorb at time of takeover. A lot I guess depends on how the deal is structured, the mindset of prospective new owners etc. I suppose they would look to hire the best that the club could afford in all areas in order to increase chances of success and their return.

Not what I'm saying at all, just that I would hope there wouldn't be some kind of gamble on swift promotion built in. Do people who do leveraged buyouts put in their own cash all that often? Immediately wrecked no, I'm thinking medium term if we are still down here there could be problems in a range of ways.. If it is only interest to be repaid that's not so bad. Depending of course on how big the debt is and you mentioned 5-10 pct interest wise? It's a simplistic take but loading debt onto a loss making club in a loss making division doesn't seem a great idea.