"don't Vote Bnp"

[Riaz]

And rise to the bait? Dignify what these gobshites think of you? Wouldn't bother soiling your hands.

Thats very easy for you to say. You or your kids would not suffer if the BNP took power.

I realise that the BNP are a million miles from any real power. But who knows maybe in my kids lifetime.

Also these people are real racists who are dedicating their lives to the cause. I cant see they would have limits on what they would do. People like myself and my kids have to live their lives wary of these people......

[Riaz]

The BNP have secured two European seats.

[Redhyde]

For anyone considering it, here are some quotes of interest I found the other day:

Now people may accuse me of being biased, but a few interesting quotes:

Nick Griffin in his own words:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/poli...icle6375915.ece

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/hope-not-hate...15875-21408625/

And Nick Griffin's views on Black and Asian Britons:

http://news.BBC.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/8011878.stm

The BNP are disgusting people generally. But there's no need to fit things to your agenda. Read Mein Kampf..it's propaganda sections ARE interesting. That doesn't make me a supporter of the Nazis. Saying the chimneys were built after DOES NOT make someone a supporter of the holocaust. He might well be but you can't tell that from these snippets.

It's really strange that people want to make stuff up about them..something persecutors always do. Something the BNP do. Whichever side it's on, it's scary.

So MR Popodopolous, why do you choose to see facts from hints and make us believe the same about people who by default are bad enough already?

[BrizleCiderArmy]

The BNP have secured two European seats.

Fascists representing our country in european parliament, a bit sick really. Griffin is a smug racist bastard and I hope he and his chronies get whats coming to them.

[Percy Parrot]

The BNP have secured two European seats.

Their national vote is down. It's just the Labour vote disintegrating into different parts and a low turn-out. Shame because it brings more money their way but the more publicity they get the more they will expose themselves. No need to panic.

[CiderHider]

OK own up, What kind of dim witted, thick ###### stupid racist imbeciles actually voted BNP?

Well bad luck, your parents obviously didn't like you much and did bad job on your upbringing, shame on them and shame on you.

BNP are a party for racists, they are no better than the KKK, *unacceptable word*'s or the NF. Well done stupid Britian you just voted in what our Grandfathers in WWII gave their lives to stop, ***** we have short memories!

When i heard their clueless **** Griffin give his pathetic and predictable speech I almost pissed myself laughing, do people actually buy into that nonsense he spouts? What a nasty little racist thug, If i saw him in the street it would be hard not to beat him with a stick.

[RED4LIFE]

I must admit I'm actually feeling a little bit sick about the BNP getting two MEP seats.

How can anyone vote for such fascists is beyond me.

Most of us had/lost relatives in WW2 fighting against the last racist scum party that got power in Europe and for their Grand/Great-Grandkids to be voting for the BNP is a massive slap in the face to the people that fought for this country.

If either the BNP or UKIP ever get into power I will be out of this country like a shot as I would want no part of what it will become.

[Guest MaloneFM]

Thats very easy for you to say. You or your kids would not suffer if the BNP took power.

Young man while I feel for your predicament these bastards are a blight on the white Europeans they claim to represent. While there are people such as myself and young CH here they have as much chance as getting into power as Rickie Lumpit has of pulling on an England shirt.

Its a protest vote from the dimwitted and easily led. And once they actually realise what they stand for they will flock back to their saturday nights on ITV1.

And while I am all for democracy and the right to vote for whoever you please, if you did, no names no lectures, read this before you vote next time eh?:

First they came for the Jews

and I did not speak out - because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for the communists

and I did not speak out - because I was not a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists

and I did not speak out - because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for me -

and by then there was no one left to speak out for me.

Pastor Martin Niemöller

Christ even lightbulb head Dave had a damn good pop at them. Which is more than his good chum Gordo has.

[kevinmabbuttshair]

The BNP have secured two European seats.

Don't worry too much Riaz. These things come and go, they tend to come more in financially hard times. The rise of the National Socialist Party and fascists across Europe came in the 1930s, great depression, swaths of people out of work, no social security. Then again, to a lesser extent, in the late 70s, 3 day week, bin men on strike rubbish piling up in the street. Sound familiar?

When things pick up they'll slid away without so much as a whimper

[Guest MaloneFM]

If they brought back the monster raving looney party in any great strength the votes for these clowns would melt away overnight.

They are just cashing in on people being p issed off with the government.

[BigTone]

Thats very easy for you to say. You or your kids would not suffer if the BNP took power.

I realise that the BNP are a million miles from any real power. But who knows maybe in my kids lifetime.

And I will bet my Wifes virginity that it will not happen.

[BigTone]

If they brought back the Uncle Roger looney party in any great strength the votes for these clowns would melt away overnight.

Unk gets my vote !!

[Mr Popodopolous]

I must admit I'm actually feeling a little bit sick about the BNP getting two MEP seats.

How can anyone vote for such fascists is beyond me.

Most of us had/lost relatives in WW2 fighting against the last racist scum party that got power in Europe and for their Grand/Great-Grandkids to be voting for the BNP is a massive slap in the face to the people that fought for this country.

If either the BNP or UKIP ever get into power I will be out of this country like a shot as I would want no part of what it will become.

Agree with that entirely. And of moderately interesting historical significance, the results were announced on the 65th anniversary of the D-Day landings.

[Mr Popodopolous]

The BNP are disgusting people generally. But there's no need to fit things to your agenda. Read Mein Kampf..it's propaganda sections ARE interesting. That doesn't make me a supporter of the Nazis. Saying the chimneys were built after DOES NOT make someone a supporter of the holocaust. He might well be but you can't tell that from these snippets.

It's really strange that people want to make stuff up about them..something persecutors always do. Something the BNP do. Whichever side it's on, it's scary.

So MR Popodopolous, why do you choose to see facts from hints and make us believe the same about people who by default are bad enough already?

Made up stuff?

It was surely quotes. I don't know why I put it, perhaps as something I believed was the truth from what I had read and indeed quotations as to what they appear to be like.

[Guest MaloneFM]

The blame for this, if you can call a democratic opinion cause for any kind of blame lies with the major political parties.

The voter turnout across Europe was less than half. 47% which laeves a vacuum for the rest of them. Its like Manure, the Arse and the Chelse, and probably Liverpool all saying that the summer holiday isn't ling enough and that they'd like a few more months on the beach.

That puts Aston Villa top.

Now I'm not making any kind of link with the Villa and the BNP but thats what happens when you take your eye off the ball. More people stay home as a protest vote, or just can't be bothered. And for example you put a party that gets only 1,000 votes against parties that get 850 and 825 respectivly when they usually get over two thousand, they get elected without really trying.

The world is NOT turning fascist, maybe leaning to the right a little bit more, the way it leant to the left.

[zfc]

Most of us had/lost relatives in WW2 fighting against the last racist scum party that got power in Europe and for their Grand/Great-Grandkids to be voting for the BNP is a massive slap in the face to the people that fought for this country.

No its not.......The biggest slap in the face is our relatives who fought in WW2 for our freedom only for that freedom to be handed away year after to a European Union led by Germany and France who have made it illegal for WW2 veterans wives and offspring to buy food produce in measurements that they understand.

Not a single citizen of the UK has been given a vote on the UK`s membership or continued participation in Germany and France`s vision for a United States Of Europe.

The Europe we have now is not what British people died for in WW2 as we are not free to make our own choices about our future.

[screech]

No its not.......The biggest slap in the face is our relatives who fought in WW2 for our freedom only for that freedom to be handed away year after to a European Union led by Germany and France who have made it illegal for WW2 veterans wives and offspring to buy food produce in measurements that they understand.

Not a single citizen of the UK has been given a vote on the UK`s membership or continued participation in Germany and France`s vision for a United States Of Europe.

The Europe we have now is not what British people died for in WW2 as we are not free to make our own choices about our future.

And thrown into the bag an immigration policy that is open door which in turn allows a lot of jobs going to overseas workers, add to the pot we are in a recession and people are losing their jobs and homes especially in the northern towns then you can see why people are voting for a party that is anti-immigration and pro British.

Then they blame the BNP, as if it's their fault they are picking up disillusioned voters, sorry, people will vote based on their circumstances.

[Percy Parrot]

No its not.......The biggest slap in the face is our relatives who fought in WW2 for our freedom only for that freedom to be handed away year after to a European Union led by Germany and France who have made it illegal for WW2 veterans wives and offspring to buy food produce in measurements that they understand.

Not a single citizen of the UK has been given a vote on the UK`s membership or continued participation in Germany and France`s vision for a United States Of Europe.

The Europe we have now is not what British people died for in WW2 as we are not free to make our own choices about our future.

Of course it isn't. Things change, times move on. To prosper the UK has to be internationalist. What is now the EU was born out of efforts to avoid such atrocities as WW2 ever happening again. The original six were all involved in WW2, Churchill was a federalist. Oh, and it may not have been voted on directly but many things in this life aren't - but unpopular though Europe may be people still vote in governments who they know will support EU membership.

And your first line - actually, I think voting BNP IS a slap in the face to those who fought and died. To imply (even if unintentionally) that membership of the EU is a bigger evil is frankly laughable. Not sure if it was meant like that but that's how it could be read.

[Percy Parrot]

And thrown into the bag an immigration policy that is open door which in turn allows a lot of jobs going to overseas workers, add to the pot we are in a recession and people are losing their jobs and homes especially in the northern towns then you can see why people are voting for a party that is anti-immigration and pro British.

Then they blame the BNP, as if it's their fault they are picking up disillusioned voters, sorry, people will vote based on their circumstances.

The BNP are NOT picking up voters. Their vote was down.

This thing about being pro-British just makes my blood boil. As though Labour, Conservatives, Lib Dems, Greens etc. are anti-British?

[RED4LIFE]

No its not.......The biggest slap in the face is our relatives who fought in WW2 for our freedom only for that freedom to be handed away year after to a European Union led by Germany and France who have made it illegal for WW2 veterans wives and offspring to buy food produce in measurements that they understand.

Not a single citizen of the UK has been given a vote on the UK`s membership or continued participation in Germany and France`s vision for a United States Of Europe.

The Europe we have now is not what British people died for in WW2 as we are not free to make our own choices about our future.

don't agree with that at all.

To compare not having a vote to be a part of the EU to Hitlers mob is a disgrace. How on earth can you think that a political party that killed millions isnt as bad as not having a choice whether we should go into EU is beyond me.

You may feel that being a part of the EU is a bad thing, but this was something that the great man Churchill himself wanted. There are many economic advantages to being an EU member that don't make the papers like a stupid law about bananas or weight formats do. Unfortunately, thats more a statement about the British media than it is about the EU. don't forget the Tories and Labour have brought in loads of stupid laws themselves (poll tax anyone?).

I'm pretty sure my nan would be more pissed off about rascist fascists running this country than she would be about whether she has to have a pound or kilo of spuds.

[Mr Mosquito]

No its not.......The biggest slap in the face is our relatives who fought in WW2 for our freedom only for that freedom to be handed away year after to a European Union led by Germany and France who have made it illegal for WW2 veterans wives and offspring to buy food produce in measurements that they understand.

Not a single citizen of the UK has been given a vote on the UK`s membership or continued participation in Germany and France`s vision for a United States Of Europe.

The Europe we have now is not what British people died for in WW2 as we are not free to make our own choices about our future.

Excellent shout, our relatives did indeed fight to keep Europe free from German Hitlerite European Unionist domination. The losing Germans were kept divided for almost 50 years and we had almost 50 years of peace in Europe as a result. With the European Union now dominated by a reunited Germany - who now want a European Union army - things could really kick off again. The European Union is a fascist organisation that wants to enforce its will on us by controlling our borders and legal system.

[zfc]

You may feel that being a part of the EU is a bad thing, but this was something that the great man Churchill himself wanted. There are many economic advantages to being an EU member that don't make the papers like a stupid law about bananas or weight formats do.

I'm pretty sure my nan would be more pissed off about rascist fascists running this country than she would be about whether she has to have a pound or kilo of spuds.

Where are these economic benefits? The UK has signed away its rights to fish in its own waters and allowed the French and the Spanish to fish cod to the brink of extinction? Have you ever heard of the C.A.P? It costs the UK somewhere between £57bn and £90bn per year depending on who you believe just to be members of the EU.It cost the UK billions when we sold our gold reserves when the gold market bottomed out for a fraction of what they are worth today and gave the money to Europe so they could prop up the ailing Euro I cannot see how that benefits the UK economically.

As for your Nan maybe you should tell her its because of Europe and the billions wasted on its parliament that the BNP will be able to claim around £20m while they have two MEPS sitting in Euro Parliament which will help finance the BNP.

[Mr Mosquito]

[zfc]

The BNP are NOT picking up voters. Their vote was down.

This thing about being pro-British just makes my blood boil. As though Labour, Conservatives, Lib Dems, Greens etc. are anti-British?

The Lib Dems have made it clear that if they got into power then they would hand Britain over to the EU lock stock and barrel the next day.

The Lib Dems are the most dangerous political party when it comes to Britains future and like the BNP they have no chance of being given a mandate to govern thank God......

[Percy Parrot]

Excellent shout, our relatives did indeed fight to keep Europe free from German Hitlerite European Unionist domination. The losing Germans were kept divided for almost 50 years and we had almost 50 years of peace in Europe as a result. With the European Union now dominated by a reunited Germany - who now want a European Union army - things could really kick off again. The European Union is a fascist organisation that wants to enforce its will on us by controlling our borders and legal system.

I'm surprised you can type so well in that straightjacket.

Fascist? No

Control our boders? No

Threat of it "really kicking off again"? Simply laughable - the EU quite clearly makes war far far LESS likely.

I like the way you assume a divided Germany kept the peace and not the EEC and EU. Germany has, after all, been militarised and united for 19 years and a very close ally of the UK in that time and not a sniff of war. So if you're looking to make crude correlations between history and wars in Europe then you'd have to conclude the EU has saves us all.

[Percy Parrot]

As for your Nan maybe you should tell her its because of Europe and the billions wasted on its parliament that the BNP will be able to claim around £20m while they have two MEPS sitting in Euro Parliament which will help finance the BNP.

More like it's because of the lies peddled by scared anti-Europeans who don't have the faith in this great country of ours to hold our own and lead in Europe.

[Percy Parrot]

Have you ever heard of the C.A.P? It costs the UK somewhere between £57bn and £90bn per year depending on who you believe just to be members of the EU.

Let's play a game called "truth, not lies" or as I like to call it "tearing this thread to shreds".

- CAP costs the EU (NOT THE UK!) about £43bn per year.

- The UK receives £4.3bn from CAP

- CAP spending is now pretty much level despite the increased number of EU countries (so effectively down)

- CAP is finally rewarding farmers not by production but payments are now conditional on meeting environmental and animal welfare standards (oh no, that who environment question again - you know, the huge international problem that simply would not be addressed anywhere nearly as well without groups such as the EU)

For what it's worth I think CAP is a rotten old system - but the pro-Europeans that you slate have been the ones calling all along for it to be changed. The reason they've not been successful is because Britain has always dragged its feet in the EU so been unable to lead - therefore decisions are taken without us half the time. Just as you wouldn't appoint the kid who'd been forced to play footy as captain.

[Percy Parrot]

[Percy Parrot]

The Lib Dems have made it clear that if they got into power then they would hand Britain over to the EU lock stock and barrel the next day.

The Lib Dems are the most dangerous political party when it comes to Britains future and like the BNP they have no chance of being given a mandate to govern thank God......

Ha ha. Hilarious. Without getting dragged in to party politics on here which I try to avoid this goes alongside the "Labour are to blame for everything" and "Tories are all evil" type statements.

It's also particularly funny when they are the only major political party to call for a referendum on membership of the EU.

Anyway - I think we have three choices.

1. Isolationist - have no major say on global recession, global warming, global terrorism etc. And, if what anti-Europeans are saying is true - end up with a global superpower on our doorstep.

2. Lead in Europe - join in, reform it and be a leader in it.

3. Be lead by the US and be at the mercy of their foreign policy (if we're out of Europe we can't rely on them, so we'd have to look west and if they didn't like what we wanted to do then we'd be screwed!)

[Percy Parrot]