sh1t_ref_again Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 From an interview with GJ "I've spoken to the assessor of the game and at that actual incident, just after the ball went into the net, the linesman put his flag in to the air. The referee ran over to the linesman who was still standing with his flag in the air and obviously spoke to him. At this point nobody knew why the goal was not given. We all saw the ball hit the back of the net. Then the referee didn't give the goal so at the end we asked the referee why the goal wasn't given and he said `for an infringement`. "That doesn't make me a cheat, a liar or unsporting. That's what's in the report and I think he [Keith Hackett] needs to apologise to Bristol City fans, players and management now. They are the facts that will come out of the report of that event." Source - http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/17082009/63/...fringement.html It did seem very strange from Hacket to come out and effectivley blame the ref by giving an opology to CP and say the ref is suspended until they review the game. Perjhaps its Hacket that should be suspended Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4eveREDDy Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 From an interview with GJ "I've spoken to the assessor of the game and at that actual incident, just after the ball went into the net, the linesman put his flag in to the air. The referee ran over to the linesman who was still standing with his flag in the air and obviously spoke to him. At this point nobody knew why the goal was not given. We all saw the ball hit the back of the net. Then the referee didn't give the goal so at the end we asked the referee why the goal wasn't given and he said `for an infringement`. "That doesn't make me a cheat, a liar or unsporting. That's what's in the report and I think he [Keith Hackett] needs to apologise to Bristol City fans, players and management now. They are the facts that will come out of the report of that event." Source - http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/17082009/63/...fringement.html It did seem very strange from Hacket to come out and effectivley blame the ref by giving an opology to CP and say the ref is suspended until they review the game. Perjhaps its Hacket that should be suspended If this is right then thats brill, Hackett, Tango, Colin, and sun journo all eating humble pie, hope they choke on it the knobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledinwatford Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Of course no one will remember this - the damage has been done. Warnock and Jordan will say it's a cop-out. The FA need to act to sort these two out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Mat Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 It did seem very strange from Hacket to come out and effectivley blame the ref by giving an opology to CP and say the ref is suspended until they review the game. Perjhaps its Hacket that should be suspended Hackett is an absolute ****. What an absolutely ridiculous thing to come out and say! Whilst neither agreeing nor disagreeing with the referee's decision, the referee' boss should at least conduct a full investigation into the decision first of all. Imagine if our bosses came out publically everytime we made mistakes and told the world? How undermined would we all feel? No-one would have any confidence at all in our superiors. For all Hackett knows, there could well be genuine reasons which he has yet not discovered - how is he and the referee and the other officials going to look if he discovers that now? This whole incident, whilst looking like a big mistake, has been turned into a needlessly overblown and ridiculous affair, and everybody is now starting to come out of it looking like idiots. Rather than jumping around waving their arms and shouting, people really should be talking sensibly about this. If it was a mistake, they happen. Nobody cheated, nobody broke the rules (although, watching the second half, you may disagree...). Everybody is human and errs occasionally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbarn Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 From an interview with GJ "I've spoken to the assessor of the game and at that actual incident, just after the ball went into the net, the linesman put his flag in to the air. The referee ran over to the linesman who was still standing with his flag in the air and obviously spoke to him. At this point nobody knew why the goal was not given. We all saw the ball hit the back of the net. Then the referee didn't give the goal so at the end we asked the referee why the goal wasn't given and he said `for an infringement`. I sure hope that the infringement theory is correct, though I can't understand why that did not come to light yesterday. Sky TV has been on this one for over 24 hours now, with the line of "belly achers" increasing all the time. Though.....Good Karma be to Tony Gale for totally defending Bristol City and Gary Johnson live on Sky. I'd say Mr. (shoot first and ask questions later Hackett) is on the rack at the moment, but sometimes The Devil looks after his own. Let's hope scrutiny of Mr.Shoebridge's report well and truly pushes egg upon egg into Colin's face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Orns Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Hackett is an absolute ****. What an absolutely ridiculous thing to come out and say! Whilst neither agreeing nor disagreeing with the referee's decision, the referee' boss should at least conduct a full investigation into the decision first of all. Imagine if our bosses came out publically everytime we made mistakes and told the world? How undermined would we all feel? No-one would have any confidence at all in our superiors. For all Hackett knows, there could well be genuine reasons which he has yet not discovered - how is he and the referee and the other officials going to look if he discovers that now? This whole incident, whilst looking like a big mistake, has been turned into a needlessly overblown and ridiculous affair, and everybody is now starting to come out of it looking like idiots. Rather than jumping around waving their arms and shouting, people really should be talking sensibly about this. If it was a mistake, they happen. Nobody cheated, nobody broke the rules (although, watching the second half, you may disagree...). Everybody is human and errs occasionally. Maybe he should read the referee's report first. That would then tell him whether he needs to have an investigation. If the report says that the goal has been ruled out for an infringement then I expect the club to get a full apology from Hackett, Jordan, Warnock, most of the newspapers, Sky Sports the BBC etc etc. Jez, I'm starting to get paranoid about the whole thing!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Of course no one will remember this - the damage has been done. Warnock and Jordan will say it's a cop-out. The FA need to act to sort these two out. Those two to me seem to be like 'dirty cops'. Don't like them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edson Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Those two to me seem to be like 'dirty cops'. Don't like them Tango & No Cash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Mat Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Maybe he should read the referee's report first. That would then tell him whether he needs to have an investigation. If the report says that the goal has been ruled out for an infringement then I expect the club to get a full apology from Hackett, Jordan, Warnock, most of the newspapers, Sky Sports the BBC etc etc. Jez, I'm starting to get paranoid about the whole thing!! Exactly. How can the referee's boss apologise for something HE doesn't know anything about?! He won't know exactly what the reasons were until he has read that match report, along with additional comments from the fourth official, referee's assessor and the manager's involved. I'm started to get worried that some ridiculous and dangerous precedent is going to be set, and they're going to change the rules of the game to allow a rematch. Still, we'll just have to stuff 'em in that to make sure of the result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfred Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 If the referee's report states that the flag went up for an infringement, then our club deserve a very public apology from Tango Man, Colin, Shaun Custis and every other journo who have lambasted our club in the papers today. Not that they will allow the truth to get in the way of a sensationalist headlines of course, so i won't hold my breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Tango & No Cash? Thats the two! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Peacock Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 After that apology, he has made it awfully difficult for whoever referees a game Crystal Palace are invloved - and in particular for the Palace/City game in January. What do you do as ref? Play safe & give all 50/50s to Palarse? give all 50/50s to City to show you aren't intimidated - ooh dangerous, you might Hackett suspends you. Someone goes down in the box, you are certain it was a trip on a City attacker, oh best let it go, the linesman is unsighted so will go along with it. I am dreading who we get to ref that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 After that apology, he has made it awfully difficult for whoever referees a game Crystal Palace are invloved - and in particular for the Palace/City game in January. What do you do as ref? Play safe & give all 50/50s to Palarse? give all 50/50s to City to show you aren't intimidated - ooh dangerous, you might Hackett suspends you. Someone goes down in the box, you are certain it was a trip on a City attacker, oh best let it go, the linesman is unsighted so will go along with it. I am dreading who we get to ref that game. Urriah Rennie - that has the potential to be painful to watch if he was running it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcbs20 Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Urriah Rennie - that has the potential to be painful to watch if he was running it! nah that monty panesar look a like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somerset_Sam Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 anyone know when match reports get published? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City_pete1 Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Have sky reported this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCfan Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 I thought the ref has also appologised for missing the goal, so how can they now be saying it was for an infringement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edson Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 No. They'd have nothing to report, just that endless reel of the same news. And they've asked Steve Bruce and Roy Keane for their opinions. No word from Bryan Robson yet, but hopefully that'll come soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roe Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Have sky reported this? Pfft of course not. They're happy to show that clip with the ball freezed in the back of the net 500 times every hour.. followed by a few comments of how disgraceful a club we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City_pete1 Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 I thought the ref has also appologised for missing the goal, so how can they now be saying it was for an infringement? Despite the media coverage, I thought all along that it was cancelled for an infringement (rightly or wrongly). Sitting in the EE, I did not know for sure the ball went in the net. As it was all very confusing, I was watching the officials to see what they did. The lino at no point lowered his flag and pointed for a goal kick. He had his flag raised the whole time, which in the rules means its either offside or an infringement I believe. Johnson also came out yesterday and said the ref told him after the game it was for an infringement. For the record, I think it should have stood (no infringement) but I have speculated with friends that it could be due to either Sears having his hand on Cole Skuse, or Sears foot being 'nearly' a high foot. The lino could have made wrong judgments on either of them. In which case, its exactly the same situation as the hartley goal (wrong decision!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcbs20 Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 And they've asked Steve Bruce and Roy Keane for their opinions. No word from Bryan Robson yet, but hopefully that'll come soon. what have they had to say on the matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edson Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 what have they had to say on the matter It's time for goal line technology blah blah blah. It costs managers their jobs yadda yadda yadda. It's a hard enough job etc etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartolona Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 It's time for goal line technology blah blah blah. It costs managers their jobs yadda yadda yadda. It's a hard enough job etc etc etc. How would goal line technology help if it was ruled out for an infringement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Orns Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 And they've asked Steve Bruce and Roy Keane for their opinions. No word from Bryan Robson yet, but hopefully that'll come soon. I would think that Bruce has issues with Palarse anyway, was Jordan chairman during his short reign there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGPHIL Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Why should the goal have stood if there was an infringement. If there has been an incident that warrants a free kick then you give a free kick. I think the only mistake the referee made was to award a goal kick. Had he given the free kick on the edgr of the area it would have clarified the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edson Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 I would think that Bruce has issues with Palarse anyway, was Jordan chairman during his short reign there? Yes. I believe Jordan took out a high court injunction to stop him starting a new job. Mind you, Bruce is a bellend too, so I find it hard to take sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Mat Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 It's time for goal line technology blah blah blah. It costs managers their jobs yadda yadda yadda. It's a hard enough job etc etc etc. Would anyone, including any of that lot, really complain if it cost Colin his job?! Really...?! Colin's wife, surely, but only because he'd be spending more time at home with her... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbcfc Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 I just hope Lansdown is instructing the City's lawyers to keep a record of every word being spouted by Warnock, Jordan and some of the hacks in the media. When all this has been sorted several defermation of character lawsuits being handed out to those who have gone out of thier way to brand the club as cheats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purescience Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 I just hope Lansdown is instructing the City's lawyers to keep a record of every word being spouted by Warnock, Jordan and some of the hacks in the media. When all this has been sorted several defermation of character lawsuits being handed out to those who have gone out of thier way to brand the club as cheats. Amen to that - sue the papers for all they're worth and use the funds to start a charity that provides free anger management classes for all managers at football league level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedUn Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Pfft of course not. They're happy to show that clip with the ball freezed in the back of the net 500 times every hour.. followed by a few comments of how disgraceful a club we are. No one likes us? ... I don't care! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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