Bris Red Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 What are you basing this on? Personally I say keep him. Sorry just realised he is out of contract in the summer. If Wikepedia is to be believed then he signed a 3 year deal with Ajax in 08 meaning he will be out of conract come July. So if he wants to stay we could get him on a free by the looks of things. Like i said i dont rate him, but on a free it could be worth a shout with nothing to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted April 20, 2010 Admin Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 There's no danger of him joining us permanently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WellRedPhil Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 I think he is a quality player but have we seen him play a run of games in central midfield? No. He has been put on the left time and time again which is a great way to waste a decent player. My thoughts exactly. It always frustrated me how he was wasted out wide under Gary. It's no surprise that some of his best performances came from the middle, and in fact his goals to games ratio when playing CM must be very good, as against Barnsley, Leicester and the brief time he was on the pitch against Preston he scored on all three occasions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 Evander Sno is a decent player....In Holland or Even Italy However we play in a High Tempo League which relies on movement quick feet and strong tackling... Does Evander fit any of these prerequisits to Championship life!? You could make a case that his ability to find a pass is an asset, but he didn't actually find too many telling balls this season...Sno would be no more than a bit part for when Hartley..Elliot and Skuse are injured and IMO not enough of an asset to keep You know its a little like the Wilkshire situation...an obviously good player, playing in a league he hated and was not suited for and as such his contribution was extremely limited! I'm not so sure you're correct in your judgement. Imo, I believe it's down to the manager and style of football we play. Look at Swansea for example. Half of their team is Dutch, Spanish and Argentinian. They play passing flowing football and get results. Sno got found wanting on the ball, when he was looking for a pass or forward run. Often he had no option but to either hoof it up to a static front two in hope, or make backwards passes ala LJ. If he had some quality around him, things would be different. At the moment our team is based around speed and not quality football. Unfortunately it leaves us weak down the flanks and very one dimensional. The space between our fullbacks and wingers is being exploited by every opponant. Hopefully, we get a manager that see's this and get's us playing football again, instead of hoof ball and kick and chase...'cos we've got speedy players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 I know i might get a bit of stick for this post.....BUT.... i honestly think the big guy should be signed permanently he is so skilful powerful! Personally i think the more games he plays for us the more he'l get used to playing our way. When and if he gets a chance to play in his natural position again he will be a great signing and be the Evander Sno we seen him playing for AJAX against us. You might laugh, but ive had couple of weeks of work and been down to watch the reserves play and the man has been 10 times above the rest of the players and has been outstanding also loan signing Gary Sawyer he seemed to organize the young defence we had there. Hopefully if Coppell comes in he will get the best out of the players! Millen has done a very good job since GJ left, but we definetly Coppell in! Looking at Scunny defeat... I wouldve sooner seen Sawyer at left side and maybe putting Fontaine in the middle along with Carey and Orr leaving youngster Ribiero on the bench. Dont get me wrong Ribiero has been good since coming in and having a chance to play, but i think he was a bit far from what we have seen from him in other games. I cant wait for next season already, hopefully Coppell in great signings in and hopefully move to the Premier League after 35 years now if i am correct. Enjoy don't abuse That question should be answered by the new manager. Sno, Saborio and Clarkson were all poor signings in my opinion. A big clear out involving 3/4 of the current squad should include all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC_Red Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 That question should be answered by the new manager. Sno, Saborio and Clarkson were all poor signings in my opinion. A big clear out involving 3/4 of the current squad should include all of them. Saborio has allready gone. Clarkson has looked decent enough and clearing out 20 players from a squad thats finished above midtable is a ridiculous overreaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 Saborio has allready gone. Clarkson has looked decent enough and clearing out 20 players from a squad thats finished above midtable is a ridiculous overreaction. 15 000 spare seats in the new stadium. People not interested in watching this kind of football. Hopefully we can get a working scout force a la Reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC_Red Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 15 000 spare seats in the new stadium. People not interested in watching this kind of football. Hopefully we can get a working scout force a la Reading. You dont get rid of 20 players overnight who've done a decent job. Ridiculous. How many games have you seen to make this judgement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 You dont get rid of 20 players overnight who've done a decent job. Ridiculous. How many games have you seen to make this judgement? We will see what happens with the new manager. 3/4 out sooner rather than later can only be a good thing for the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economou Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 We will see what happens with the new manager. 3/4 out sooner rather than later can only be a good thing for the club. Who'd be left Tommy ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WellRedPhil Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 Saborio has allready gone. Clarkson has looked decent enough and clearing out 20 players from a squad thats finished above midtable is a ridiculous overreaction. Completely agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 Who'd be left Tommy ? Gerken, Henderson, Ribeiro, Fontaine, James Wilson, Skuse, Maynard, Haynes and Marlon Jackson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WellRedPhil Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 Gerken, Henderson, Ribeiro, Fontaine, James Wilson, Skuse, Maynard, Haynes and Marlon Jackson. So you'd get rid of Hartley and Elliot? Not to mention our long-serving captain, a promising and still young striker in Akinde, and countless others. Have to see I disagree entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 so being left with 2 keeprs, a right back, two centre halfs, a defensive midfielder, a striker and winger plus a player whose already been released is your idea of a good plan ? So who has been released? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citylad05 Posted April 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 Cant just get rid 1/2 the squad i think and hope that Coppell reshuffles the squad with new signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindjuicer Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 I personally think Sno is a fantastic player. However, imo, Sno under GJ wasn't used properly. He looked confused at times. He probably can't wait to get back to Ajax and play football with some quality players who move off the ball and provide link up play. He got caught out many times on the ball this season, whilst looking for a pass. There was often nothing on apart from hoofing it up to two Stationary forwards with their back to Goal. Whatever happened to Forwards tracking back to 'collect' the pass, and creating space behind...? So simple, but so affective. I think it's more a case of whether Sno wants us, not the other way... I reckon someone like Coppell could develop a nice footballing team around him, but it won't happen. I would personally hope that "someone like Coppell" would want to "develop a nice footballing team around him". Sno has had loads of good games. I can remember at least 4 MoMs. He's also had a few bad ones including a couple recently that seem to have stuck in everyone's mind. His fitness has been questionable for most of the season too. I think the guy has so much talent and strength that, if used right, he's practically unstoppable. We have a whole bunch of good CMs but I don't think any provide the attacking options that Sno can. If we can get him for anything like a million, it's a bargain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 I would personally hope that "someone like Coppell" would want to "develop a nice footballing team around him". Sno has had loads of good games. I can remember at least 4 MoMs. He's also had a few bad ones including a couple recently that seem to have stuck in everyone's mind. His fitness has been questionable for most of the season too. I think the guy has so much talent and strength that, if used right, he's practically unstoppable. We have a whole bunch of good CMs but I don't think any provide the attacking options that Sno can. If we can get him for anything like a million, it's a bargain. I totally agree. He is a fantastic Footballer. His pedigree is unquestionable. We have an International player who is young and Talented. Under GJ, we let another one go, Saborio, who will be playing in the World Cup this year. We should be looking to build a team around talented players like these. Instead, we bring in like for like type players, year in, year out.Everything is average. Some will leave this summer and be replaced by someone similar. This Myth that Championship football is won by playing fast huff and puff football is old hat. Quality International players like Sno and Saborio are what we need more of, and a manager that wants to play modern football. When you look at the likes of West Brom and Newcastle, these are the Benchmarks we should be aiming for, not run of the mill 'Championship style' players that will lead to another mid table average season. Thinking outside the box and not following the crowd would help. I've mentioned Swansea before...I admire them for going down the route they have taken. They are developing a talented footballing squad on a budget, that is like no other in the Championship. They play attractive football, that get results. The fans are happy and entertained, and the Squad is still young and developing. I would love us to follow suit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citylad05 Posted April 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 didnt think Costa Rica made the world cup I for one liked Saborio, and Sno and wish they both stayed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 I totally agree. He is a fantastic Footballer. His pedigree is unquestionable. We have an International player who is young and Talented. Under GJ, we let another one go, Saborio, who will be playing in the World Cup this year. We should be looking to build a team around talented players like these. Instead, we bring in like for like type players, year in, year out.Everything is average. Some will leave this summer and be replaced by someone similar. This Myth that Championship football is won by playing fast huff and puff football is old hat. Quality International players like Sno and Saborio are what we need more of, and a manager that wants to play modern football. When you look at the likes of West Brom and Newcastle, these are the Benchmarks we should be aiming for, not run of the mill 'Championship style' players that will lead to another mid table average season. Thinking outside the box and not following the crowd would help. I've mentioned Swansea before...I admire them for going down the route they have taken. They are developing a talented footballing squad on a budget, that is like no other in the Championship. They play attractive football, that get results. The fans are happy and entertained, and the Squad is still young and developing. I would love us to follow suit... Think you are heading in the right direction. Costa Rica is not in the World Cup though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citylad05 Posted April 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 Beat you to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 Beat you to it # Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 I would love us to follow suit... I wouldnt. Dull defensive football that will get found out next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john shaws hair Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 ur al wasting ur fingers muscles hes off end of season, end of he dosnt want to sign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citylad05 Posted April 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 well ur saying he definetly not staying? well when asked by fans he says he doesnt know yet? so we will have to see the outcome. Hopefully we get him on a free if out of contract with Ajax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted April 21, 2010 Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 I was excited when i heard that Sno was signing for the reds but unfortunately his best game was when Ajax beat us in pre-season. If GJ had played him as a defensive midfielder, in front of the back four, as Ajax did then maybe we would be desperate to keep him at the club and we would probably be looking forward to the play-offs. We missed McCombe when we played against teams with powerful centre forwards and i'm afraid Louis has seen better days. Christian Ribeiro and Liam Fontaine are a shoe-in next season but Jamie McAllister needs competition and Bradley Orr isn't good enough. As long as we can keep Ribeiro, Fontaine, Elliott, Clarkson, Maynard, Scuse and Hartley then Coppell can build the squad around them. If Coppell can pinch Ingimarsson and Sigurdsson from Reading that would be a good start Cum on you reds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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