InCider Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 Couldnt agree more. OK I'm not gonna be a hypocrite, I use otib, but thats about the only forum, chat site I use. I don't buy into the whole facebook gibberish Twitter/myspaca, I geninuly have better things to do than 'poke' somone or approve of a picture etc. I wonder how much GDP is lost due to social networking sites and shit on TV ? Probably about the the amount we are in deficit by. Call me old fashioned, but I long for the days (not that long ago) or meetin ya mates down the pub at a predetermined time to smoke fags and get pissed, no mobile phones with GPS or an APP to regulate your breathing is it now? BREATH IN, BREATH OUT or whatever shit they'll try to sell you next. Screw that. Anyone who is 30 - 40 like me probably used to make bows and arrows, go fishing, smash up rusty bangers in the field, hunt for porn in the woods, shoot rats and make dens. Todays youth I feel sorry for, poor cnuts cant even play conkers in the playground due to the potential of suing for injury of which you can choose from several low brow firms on any Sky channels every 5 mins. A lot of toadys kids are pale subterranean misfits with elongated necks and no social skills, they cheat on exams and are generally lazy, thick and lacking in ambition and identity. Its not their fault, i'm not having a pop at them, I just fear for the future of this country when social standards are dictated by the media. Dont get me started on the celeb culture please...GRR In my local Tesco there is a magazine rack the length of an Olympic swimming pool dedicated entirely to celebs like Jordon, Katonia and Sherrle Cole....Who is actually interested? No wonder we have the highest teenage pregnancy in the world with sluts and hookers as role models. Sorry, i'm on the war path today as i'm not gonna be able to watch the game....or hight lights...Just a disgrace to me. Brilliant! :rofl2br: That rant has really brightened my day up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garlicbread Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 Just go to a pub showing the game, or watch it at a friends. That way you get to watch the game, and don't give Murdoch a penny. How are the sports subscriptions in pubs funded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InCider Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 How are the sports subscriptions in pubs funded? They pay thousands! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dollymarie Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 Yes but what I meant is, you arent directly giving Murdoch any money. Also its up to the Swiss tv people who they sell the pictures to as the game is there. Its nothing to do with the fa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 maybe you should all descend on that sponging family of 10 in Bristol and watch it.. i bet they get sky paid for by you and me. Thats the biggest disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Colby-Tit Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 All televised games are streamed on this site for free with no downloading or nowt My link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 Just refuse to pay Sky and watch it online. Job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 Couldnt agree more. OK I'm not gonna be a hypocrite, I use otib, but thats about the only forum, chat site I use. I don't buy into the whole facebook gibberish Twitter/myspaca, I geninuly have better things to do than 'poke' somone or approve of a picture etc. I wonder how much GDP is lost due to social networking sites and shit on TV ? Probably about the the amount we are in deficit by. Call me old fashioned, but I long for the days (not that long ago) or meetin ya mates down the pub at a predetermined time to smoke fags and get pissed, no mobile phones with GPS or an APP to regulate your breathing is it now? BREATH IN, BREATH OUT or whatever shit they'll try to sell you next. Screw that. Anyone who is 30 - 40 like me probably used to make bows and arrows, go fishing, smash up rusty bangers in the field, hunt for porn in the woods, shoot rats and make dens. Todays youth I feel sorry for, poor cnuts cant even play conkers in the playground due to the potential of suing for injury of which you can choose from several low brow firms on any Sky channels every 5 mins. A lot of toadys kids are pale subterranean misfits with elongated necks and no social skills, they cheat on exams and are generally lazy, thick and lacking in ambition and identity. Its not their fault, i'm not having a pop at them, I just fear for the future of this country when social standards are dictated by the media. Dont get me started on the celeb culture please...GRR In my local Tesco there is a magazine rack the length of an Olympic swimming pool dedicated entirely to celebs like Jordon, Katonia and Sherrle Cole....Who is actually interested? No wonder we have the highest teenage pregnancy in the world with sluts and hookers as role models. Sorry, i'm on the war path today as i'm not gonna be able to watch the game....or hight lights...Just a disgrace to me. That is how i feel everyday...and yes i'm in my late 30's. I think people are missing the point of what we are both saying. If for one year of our lives, we all stopped buying Sky Subscriptions, then football would change for the better, drastically. If we stopped buying the crap 'Celeb' mags and trash papers, then they too would change. You only have to appear on tv more than once these days, and they call you a celebrity FFS. We sit in front of computer screens and Tv screens, so much, that the art of socialising and conversation is dying. We are being spoken too by a box, we never talk back. Yes, by getting down the pub, it's not being lazy...it's socialising as a human being was meant too. By interacting with our fellow sppecies and not a digital form of it. Has anyone heard how most kids talk these days ? They don't...they mumble and grunt. A friend of mine is a bus driver. He said the morning school run is full of kids, but silent, all but for the sound of mobile phone's. The kid's are texting one another in the bus...Crazy!!! I too worry about our future. And i'm sure in my mind, it's a way of dumbing down the masses, and increasing the void between the have's and have nots. We are all idiots for just going along with it. We all need to think and act more, instead of just accepting our lot. All imho of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Planet Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 Murdoch took over the Sun and turned it into the biggest-selling paper when it was previously close to going out of business. He took Sky from a small broadcaster to becoming the current market leader. Since Sky money has been ploughed into the Premier League, we have attracted the biggest stars and attendances have risen, as well as the game becoming more and more family friendly, and thus making it more inclusive. Also, how is he 'mugging us off'? As far as I'm aware, it is an individual's choice whether or not to purchase Sky, if I chose to spend 40/50 quid a month on it, that makes it my choice, no one forces me to do that. If he was such a sh1t, why do so many subscribe, choose to have Sky in their home and attendances risen considerably from Division 1 of the early 90's? I'm not saying he's a Saint, but he puts products on the table, and people buy them. Surely he's simply an incredible astute and in touch businessman? Quite agree Tinman. Murdoch is not evil, he is just a very astute businessman and, as you say, you don't have to buy his products. Don't forget this is the guy who cracked the London newsprint unions, who (at the time - mid 80's) were resisting change to newspaper production methods, they actually wanted to carry on manually setting individual metal type faces into frames to print the papers and half the payroll were doing nothing all day. One of my heroes I am afraid Ciderhider, but I loved your several rants on this subject ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InCider Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 Another City flag at the England game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dollymarie Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 Rooneys scored, and this time he didn't have to pay for it. I'll get me coat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 I feei sorry for Theo, he was looking good, but that looks a painfull injury. Will be interesting to see if Adam Johnson can have the same sort of impact. Lescott looks slower that Carey. I got 2 0 and rooney to score first at 20/1 but can't see a clean sheet, they will score on the break even though England will win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezgimed Posted September 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 Johnson is better than Walcott on this evidence. Smarter on the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 Yep. Looks like he could be a cultured player. Now for 15 minutes of jamie redknap eating humble pie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezgimed Posted September 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 Yeh that was some hissy fit he threw earlier, hopefully Keys will wind him up some more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economou Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 Quite agree Tinman. Murdoch is not evil, he is just a very astute businessman and, as you say, you don't have to buy his products. Don't forget this is the guy who cracked the London newsprint unions, who (at the time - mid 80's) were resisting change to newspaper production methods, they actually wanted to carry on manually setting individual metal type faces into frames to print the papers and half the payroll were doing nothing all day. One of my heroes I am afraid Ciderhider, but I loved your several rants on this subject ! So if you want to watch England test cricket, for instance, what do you do ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redcityman Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 Rule Britannia wtf! Do some of our fans not realise there is a difference between England and Britain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 You'd see far more union jacks at England games than the st george cross untill '96 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redcityman Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 You'd see far more union jacks at England games than the st george cross untill '96 But was that because although the union Jack represented Britain as a standard ( all four parts ) certain sections of the establishment liked to feel that England was the be all and end all of Britain, to be honest growing up in the 70's you didn't see so many George crosses as union jacks around, also I don't suppose having our flag used to promote a rather unsaviory organisation helped either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 Carl Fogarty (of Superbike fame) did a hell of a lot to bring back our love of the George Cross in the 90s. He refused to use the Union Flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezgimed Posted September 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 Great strike that by Bent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 Ah well, it already looks like thousands of England Flags will be gracing Poland and Ukraine in 2 years. Roll on Wales away next march Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 S W P My god he is priceless, How did he become a professional footballer?, Why does Crapello pick him?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screech Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 S W P My god he is priceless, How did he become a professional footballer?, Why does Crapello pick him?. He gets picked because he used to be a good player and has a famous dad, that's the best I can do, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezgimed Posted September 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 Gonna be another dawn of false hope after this campaign. Can see it coming! Good old England will win every qualifier then prob lose to Norway in Poland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivs Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 Murdoch took over the Sun and turned it into the biggest-selling paper when it was previously close to going out of business. Your point? Almost everything that is wrong with our country emanates directly from the The Sun newspaper. He took Sky from a small broadcaster to becoming the current market leader. Market leader in what sense? It certainly isn't based on number of people watching their channels. They get pathetic viewing figures. Since Sky money has been ploughed into the Premier League, we have attracted the biggest stars and attendances have risen, as well as the game becoming more and more family friendly, and thus making it more inclusive. The Premier League is partly responsible for the decline in English football at every level. The England team is worse; Sunday League football struggles to get officials because players and parents think "having a go" at the officials is the norm i.e.they react like Premier League footballers. PS Also, stop taking the Sky propaganda. The Premier League simply doesn't have the "biggest stars". They all play in Spain. Also, how is he 'mugging us off'? As far as I'm aware, it is an individual's choice whether or not to purchase Sky, if I chose to spend 40/50 quid a month on it, that makes it my choice, no one forces me to do that. He has a monopoly on England away games. I have no where else to go (legally) to watch England. You'd think an astute business man would appreciate some competition... If he was such a sh1t, why do so many subscribe, choose to have Sky in their home and attendances risen considerably from Division 1 of the early 90's? I'm not saying he's a Saint, but he puts products on the table, and people buy them. Surely he's simply an incredible astute and in touch businessman? Being "an incredible astute and in touch businessman" doesn't mean he isn't a "Distorter of society, money grabbing, greedy peice of 5h1t". In my experience, on the whole, they are one and the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 He gets picked because he used to be a good player and has a famous dad, that's the best I can do, sorry. I agree with the famous dad, But take issue with the 'used to be a good player' bit. if Hansen believes Walcott lacks a football brain, What must he think about SWP. He has always been over rated, can't get a kick at Man City and believes he is worth 100k per week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screech Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 I agree with the famous dad, But take issue with the 'used to be a good player' bit. if Hansen believes Walcott lacks a football brain, What must he think about SWP. He has always been over rated, can't get a kick at Man City and believes he is worth 100k per week. I call it David Nugent syndrome, he had one very good season and has made a terrific living out of it. Countless coaches will go on believing what they have at their disposal is the same player that had that great season a long time ago, offer him 10's of thousands a week and all they get is an expensive Bas Savage. SWP needs one good game in 10 and the media go into meltdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 Apart from a smashing goal V Man U I struggle to think what he's done? A perfect example of how we go for physical attributes over ability in this country, especially with youngsters. Was a joy having PROPER footballers on the flanks for most of the game, shame it was ruined by that shocking muppet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 Typical of the hypocrisy and the way the tabloids and press work in this country, is the whole Rooney affair. The Notw paper is full of Tit's and Ass and adverts for Porn etc...it thrives on that kind of stuff. Yet they decide to bring the 'Rooney' story out, during the middle of an important International campaign. Do you not think, they knew of this 'Scandal' before? They have decided when to bring out this Story. They know it will make the biggest news and disruption at this very time. In fact, they want England to fail. They actually want it. Bad news sells more papers. They have no interest in the welfare of this country, it's wellbeing or happiness. These Editors and Journalists and media owners are scum, who just want to line their own pockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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