Mrdc Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 First thing to say is that I know sweet fa about fitness coaching. However, this is the second season that we seem to have a ton of injuries before the season starts and by coincidence that Kunle has been at the club. Just makes me wonder If his techniques are causing major problems for our players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanaticRed Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 First thing to say is that I know sweet fa about fitness coaching. However, this is the second season that we seem to have a ton of injuries before the season starts and by coincidence that Kunle has been at the club. Just makes me wonder If his techniques are causing major problems for our players. Watch out, special agent tansley and the rest of his forum police mob will be on your back soon!! On a serious note i couldnt agree more! something just doesnt add up, we never had this amount of injuries before... even with spondgy pitches! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 First thing to say is that I know sweet fa about fitness coaching. However, this is the second season that we seem to have a ton of injuries before the season starts and by coincidence that Kunle has been at the club. Just makes me wonder If his techniques are causing major problems for our players.. Can't see it myself. For years we were lucky with injuries. Don't think it has anything to do with pre season training. Pitches in Sweden are similar to the ones in England still we got injuries last season. Severity as style of play - which don't necessarily exclude pace and a fooballing brane wasting a fortune - is best medicine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notsobigfatdave Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 First thing to say is that I know sweet fa about fitness coaching. However, this is the second season that we seem to have a ton of injuries before the season starts and by coincidence that Kunle has been at the club. Just makes me wonder If his techniques are causing major problems for our players. Could possibly be....interesting also to read Big sams appraisal of the Fitness regieme at WHAM on the team talk web site. Hes got two fitness experts in. One to concentrate on injury prevention. Saying that if you get a broken nose or dead leg or good kicking there aint a lot you can do to prevent it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrdc Posted July 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 Watch out, special agent tansley and the rest of his forum police mob will be on your back soon!! On a serious note i couldnt agree more! something just doesnt add up, we never had this amount of injuries before... even with spondgy pitches! Really don't what anybody says, as long as it doesn't get personal. It's just a thought that went through my head and thought it was worth sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcliffe 78 Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 PDG who knows Tom will comment on this, sorry we are all sad and not of his educational standards for further response from him. P.S. I should not bite at a moran like this but to have a go at someone because they can't type to your standards makes you a bully like many people have said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 could just be bad luck, you can't go through all this without knowing what to do/what you're talking about, surely? http://wikibin.org/articles/kunle-odetoyinbo.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screech Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 PDG who knows Tom will comment on this, sorry we are all sad and not of his educational standards for further response from him. P.S. I should not bite at a moran like this but to have a go at someone because they can't type to your standards makes you a bully like many people have said. Tried a few times to read that, I still have no idea what you are trying to say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 Tried a few times to read that, I still have no idea what you are trying to say? A lot of intrigues going on behind the scenes that only the involved people take notice of. An I'm stalking my stalker syndrome so to speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcliffe 78 Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 Tried a few times to read that, I still have no idea what you are trying to say? Try the more injuries thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcliffe 78 Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 I take it you read the thread and you still don't understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 First thing to say is that I know sweet fa about fitness coaching. However, this is the second season that we seem to have a ton of injuries before the season starts and by coincidence that Kunle has been at the club. Just makes me wonder If his techniques are causing major problems for our players. Whether it is his fault or not I still cannot fathom why Keith would be so critical of last year's regime then employ the man who was behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Can't see it myself. For years we were lucky with injuries. Don't think it has anything to do with pre season training. Pitches in Sweden are similar to the ones in England still we got injuries last season. Severity as style of play - which don't necessarily exclude pace and a fooballing brane wasting a fortune - is best medicine. Rock on Tommy! ........ ....erm,..... I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extonsred Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 the least I would expect keith to be doing would be to get an outside assessor to review how things are being done. Not expensive and probably only small adjustments could make all the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 First thing to say is that I know sweet fa about fitness coaching. However, this is the second season that we seem to have a ton of injuries before the season starts and by coincidence that Kunle has been at the club. Just makes me wonder If his techniques are causing major problems for our players. Not fitness coach's fault. For example - is it his fault that Kilkenny went over on his ankle during training? or that Riberio jarred his knee during a game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 for god sake he is not a Fitness Coach he is a sports scientist too completely different roles we currently do not have a fitness coach it was Glenn Schmidt before he left for Northampton last month, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 for god sake he is not a Fitness Coach he is a sports scientist too completely different roles we currently do not have a fitness coach it was Glenn Schmidt before he left for Northampton last month, Kunle Odetoyinbo MSc BSc CN Med. is a sports scientist and fitness coach. Strait from the link posted above but his job title is not important, as the most experienced fitness coach we now have im sure his fitness coaching skills are being used. The word scientist implies that he is going through some systematic process of building knowledge on "sport" - I don't think we need someone who is trying to build knowledge on sport - I think we need someone that knows how to get our players up to the best possible fitness level without injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 The word scientist implies that he is going through some systematic process of building knowledge on "sport" - I don't think we need someone who is trying to build knowledge on sport - I think we need someone that knows how to get our players up to the best possible fitness level without injury. How do you ''get our players up to the best possible fitness level without injury'' if you don't have a scientific knowledge of the sport? Achieving and maintaining fitness in any professional sport is based on science based research. That said, the very nature of employing said fitness will lead to injuries. Football is a contact sport. Edwards went off last night with a busted nose. Hardly anyone's fault, least of all the fitness coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 another thing to take into acount we never had all these injurys until we moved to the new training ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcliffe 78 Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Wenger changed the way we look after players in our country, warming down after the game ETC. In any competative sport injurys will occur, many a specialist are consulted in football injuries some get it right others don't, Hargreaves for examble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxy27 Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Wenger changed the way we look after players in our country, warming down after the game ETC. In any competative sport injurys will occur, many a specialist are consulted in football injuries some get it right others don't, Hargreaves for examble. I'm not sure Wenger invented the warm-down... To be honest, all clubs get lots of injuries at this time of year, half the BBC Sport stories at the moment are about people pulling out of this tour, or that one. It's just an injury prone time of year because of the large break most players have. If it was the coach's fault, do you really think that none inside the club would realise... The other coaches, the players, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskay Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 If Kunle had moved that barbecue then... you are right it must be his fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcliffe 78 Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 I'm not sure Wenger invented the warm-down... To be honest, all clubs get lots of injuries at this time of year, half the BBC Sport stories at the moment are about people pulling out of this tour, or that one. It's just an injury prone time of year because of the large break most players have. If it was the coach's fault, do you really think that none inside the club would realise... The other coaches, the players, etc... Millen with advice from medical staff gave them a programme with what they should do in there deserved weeks off, injuries happen at all time of the season, with the Wenger thing he has changed the way coaches/managers do things, Adams, Parlour, Wright loads more i can say he made them play longer in there career because of his methords. And on warming down after games was one of these, read there books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 First thing to say is that I know sweet fa about fitness coaching. However, this is the second season that we seem to have a ton of injuries before the season starts and by coincidence that Kunle has been at the club. Just makes me wonder If his techniques are causing major problems for our players. Watch out, special agent tansley and the rest of his forum police mob will be on your back soon!! On a serious note i couldnt agree more! something just doesnt add up, we never had this amount of injuries before... even with spondgy pitches! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxy27 Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Millen with advice from medical staff gave them a programme with what they should do in there deserved weeks off, injuries happen at all time of the season, with the Wenger thing he has changed the way coaches/managers do things, Adams, Parlour, Wright loads more i can say he made them play longer in there career because of his methords. And on warming down after games was one of these, read there books. As a statistics graduate I know for a fact that it is proven that the most succeptible time for sports team to suffer injuries is after their 'off-season' break, the most common injuries are in the thigh muscles, and ligament strains, if these are recurring injuries, then maybe we should look at the fitness coach/sports scientist but I don't think he's to blame for broken noses or dropped barbeques. As for Wenger, he's a genius and a great manager, so I'll take your word for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Controller Posted July 26, 2011 Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 One of the members of the development squad on twitter had some not so flattering comments about the sports science guy this morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted July 26, 2011 Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 One of the members of the development squad on twitter had some not so flattering comments about the sports science guy this morning Just seen it - it was Holloway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Tansley Posted July 26, 2011 Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 Well that's gonna cost him a weeks wages, though maybe be better to take away one of his precious days off. What I'd give to play football everyday and get paid for it... Hope he doesn't turn out to be another talented product of the academy who has a bad attitude. We've had enough of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted July 26, 2011 Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 What's been said ? Any links ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted July 26, 2011 Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 What's been said ? Any links ? Actually hates the sports scientist, what a joke he is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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