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Two things in The Times this morning.

Firstly, they predict we will be 9th and say we are one of the more attractive sides in the league; which is more positive than most of our fans!

Secondly, they have a picture of Brighton's new stadium, which they have waited for since they left the Goldstone Ground in 1997 and then had 12 years at Withdean; the worst ground in the league. And we think we have problems!

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Two things in The Times this morning.

Firstly, they predict we will be 9th and say we are one of the more attractive sides in the league; which is more positive than most of our fans!

Secondly, they have a picture of Brighton's new stadium, which they have waited for since they left the Goldstone Ground in 1997 and then had 12 years at Withdean; the worst ground in the league. And we think we have problems!

I predicted 10th only after keef has been sacked and replace by unknown spanish manager Keitho El Mileno

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I think it all depends on the start we have. Winning breeds confidence, and judging by what I seen with this squad last season....thats very much the case.

IF we get off to a decent start, we could/should come mid table......but I think it will be a slog this year and we'll come about 18th.

C'mon City, prove me wrong.....15 points in the opening 5 games please :winner_third_h4h:

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Agree 18th - 20th, nothing happend in the summer to suggest things will be any different this year,

In fact im probably going into this season with the least optimism i have ever had following city.........sigh

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god we have crap fans!! 18-21st dont bother coming to the games then with that attitude!

I have a feeling that those fans (me included) would like to see us do well but are being realistic. Nothing wrong with that.

I reckon bottom 6 without 2 decent additions at the back.

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1st.

You been on the Natch Harito :laughcont:

Not enough done in the Transfer market to be thinking about being on the first page of teletext :D

I don't think we'll have problems scoring (with or without Maynard) but for every goal we score I reckon we could ship in 2, so if we score 4 then we'll lose 8-4 :o

16th for me.

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I love these pre-season predictions. I went to a friends' house this time last season (who is a gas head) and his son came out with a match or shoot magazine with the Championship preview and he was flashing it in front of me because they predicted City were favourites for relegation. I reminded him of that day on the last day of the season!!!

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Two things in The Times this morning.

Firstly, they predict we will be 9th and say we are one of the more attractive sides in the league; which is more positive than most of our fans!

I fear we will feature within the bottom 6 - 8.

Any three from Barnsley. Coventry, Doncaster, Derby, Palace, Peterborough or oursleves for the drop.

For the first time since our promotion season, I have concerns about holdiing on to our Championship status.

Barely adequate last season, and weakened by the loss of Caulker and Spence from our defence.

Much will depend on where Maynard plies his championship trade this season. If he stays, then, maybe, he, Pittman and Stead will score enough goals to secure safety.

This season will be a big challenge for Millen. The Coppell saga is behind us, and now he has to stand or fall on the strength of his management.

With last seasons short comings still fresh in our minds, it has been concerning that Millen hasn't seemed to be able to strengthen his troops, nor, move on those who may not feature. I know new signings don't guarantee success, but a recipe of 'same old, same old' will sooner or later stagnate, and I fear this is where we are at the seasons start.

I await crucifixion by the forum users wearing red tinted glasses.

I hope I'm wrong.........

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I fear we will feature within the bottom 6 - 8.

Any three from Barnsley. Coventry, Doncaster, Derby, Palace, Peterborough or oursleves for the drop.

For the first time since our promotion season, I have concerns about holdiing on to our Championship status.

Barely adequate last season, and weakened by the loss of Caulker and Spence from our defence.

Much will depend on where Maynard plies his championship trade this season. If he stays, then, maybe, he, Pittman and Stead will score enough goals to secure safety.

This season will be a big challenge for Millen. The Coppell saga is behind us, and now he has to stand or fall on the strength of his management.

With last seasons short comings still fresh in our minds, it has been concerning that Millen hasn't seemed to be able to strengthen his troops, nor, move on those who may not feature. I know new signings don't guarantee success, but a recipe of 'same old, same old' will sooner or later stagnate, and I fear this is where we are at the seasons start.

I await crucifixion by the forum users wearing red tinted glasses.

I hope I'm wrong.........

I think that is a fair assessment, I too fear the coming season. There will be some very, very tough matches and it could go either way for us!

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I fear we will feature within the bottom 6 - 8.

Any three from Barnsley. Coventry, Doncaster, Derby, Palace, Peterborough or oursleves for the drop.

For the first time since our promotion season, I have concerns about holdiing on to our Championship status.

Barely adequate last season, and weakened by the loss of Caulker and Spence from our defence.

Much will depend on where Maynard plies his championship trade this season. If he stays, then, maybe, he, Pittman and Stead will score enough goals to secure safety.

This season will be a big challenge for Millen. The Coppell saga is behind us, and now he has to stand or fall on the strength of his management.

With last seasons short comings still fresh in our minds, it has been concerning that Millen hasn't seemed to be able to strengthen his troops, nor, move on those who may not feature. I know new signings don't guarantee success, but a recipe of 'same old, same old' will sooner or later stagnate, and I fear this is where we are at the seasons start.

I await crucifixion by the forum users wearing red tinted glasses.

I hope I'm wrong.........

Despite the difficulties of last season City managed to finish 15th, comfortably in mid-table having scored and average of 1.3 goals a game with Maynard absent for much of the season. It wasn't pretty most of the time but the means justified the end.

I reckon City (with or without Maynard) will have enough firepower to stay comfortably in mid-table. What concerns me, as well as every other City fan is the ability to keep the back door shut. Millen has looked to sign 5 different defenders but all have opted for other clubs. He's now looking for PL loanee's similar to Caulker last season. That's not going to happen for at least a couple of weeks but it will happen.

The signing of Kilkenny will provide more creativity which was missing last season and I reckon he'll be a big influence. Lets hope he can avoid any injuries. I also reckon we'll see more of an attacking style and am looking forward to the start of the season.

As for Millen not moving on players - most fringe players are under contract for another year and if other clubs don't come in for them what can he do?

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Despite the difficulties of last season City managed to finish 15th, comfortably in mid-table having scored and average of 1.3 goals a game with Maynard absent for much of the season. It wasn't pretty most of the time but the means justified the end.

I reckon City (with or without Maynard) will have enough firepower to stay comfortably in mid-table. What concerns me, as well as every other City fan is the ability to keep the back door shut. Millen has looked to sign 5 different defenders but all have opted for other clubs. He's now looking for PL loanee's similar to Caulker last season. That's not going to happen for at least a couple of weeks but it will happen.

The signing of Kilkenny will provide more creativity which was missing last season and I reckon he'll be a big influence. Lets hope he can avoid any injuries. I also reckon we'll see more of an attacking style and am looking forward to the start of the season.

As for Millen not moving on players - most fringe players are under contract for another year and if other clubs don't come in for them what can he do?

Jesus......I agree with Robbored ......

.....is that allowed?

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Jesus......I agree with Robbored ......

.....is that allowed?

no your not, no matter how right he is,

We're 3 players short as I've said in another thread

A centre back (although I still think Wilson could well be that gem we need)

A Left Back (as there is only 92 available in the world so we can't find cover)

a Left Midfield (Woolford isn't going to be that for me hoping to be proved wrong and JCR cuts and drifts to the centre far to much)

Get those in and I'll be happier

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no your not, no matter how right he is,

We're 3 players short as I've said in another thread

A centre back (although I still think Wilson could well be that gem we need)

A Left Back (as there is only 92 available in the world so we can't find cover)

a Left Midfield (Woolford isn't going to be that for me hoping to be proved wrong and JCR cuts and drifts to the centre far to much)

Get those in and I'll be happier

Agree with most of this bar left-wing, Woolford has much to prove, and Bolasie looks an interesting prospect. And we'll probably play 4-3-3 for at least some of the season.

I'm very happy with the midfield/front line, and cautious about the defence. McAllister, Fontaine, Wilson & Ribeiro would be a decent first choice back 4 IMO. Add Nyatanga and Carey, competent across the back-line, and that's ok. Strength in depth is still not there though and we're 2 players short of having what I'd consider a good all round defensive squad.

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Agree with most of this bar left-wing, Woolford has much to prove, and Bolasie looks an interesting prospect. And we'll probably play 4-3-3 for at least some of the season.

I'm very happy with the midfield/front line, and cautious about the defence. McAllister, Fontaine, Wilson & Ribeiro would be a decent first choice back 4 IMO. Add Nyatanga and Carey, competent across the back-line, and that's ok. Strength in depth is still not there though and we're 2 players short of having what I'd consider a good all round defensive squad.

just my view of Woolford I'm happy to be proved wrong as I don't like seeing players struggle except for Ian Baird and Carl Hutchings I hated those two,

I dont think he's a winger I think he'd be suited to sitting behind a front 1/2 like Noble use too

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just my view of Woolford I'm happy to be proved wrong as I don't like seeing players struggle except for Ian Baird and Carl Hutchings I hated those two,

I dont think he's a winger I think he'd be suited to sitting behind a front 1/2 like Noble use too

Thanks for mentioning my all time favourite City player. I feel angry now just picturing him in a City shirt. :grr:

As for Wooly, I don't think he was as bad last season as people are suggesting and still have faith in him to come good. IMO, he's our best (and most natural) option for the left wing. Just hope he hits the ground running this season and maintains form. I'm sure once his confidence is back he'll create a few chances. :fingerscrossed:

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Cant get excited about this season one bit, our failure to secure replacements for Caulker, Spence and the past their best pair of Macalister and to a lesser extent Carey fills me with dread and worry.

If we are going to do any better than survive we need to shore up the defence, otherwise to win games we are going to have to score 4 a game!

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Millen has looked to sign 5 different defenders but all have opted for other clubs.

It would be interesting if we knew which clubs the five unamed defenders opted for.

We are, after all, an established Championship team (for the moment), with possibilities of playing in a new stadium within maybe two or three years. It's also been said that salaries paid by the club are realistic compared to other championship sides.

So why do we seem unable to attract any of the top 5 on Millens list of defenders?

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Despite the difficulties of last season City managed to finish 15th, comfortably in mid-table having scored and average of 1.3 goals a game with Maynard absent for much of the season. It wasn't pretty most of the time but the means justified the end.

I reckon City (with or without Maynard) will have enough firepower to stay comfortably in mid-table. What concerns me, as well as every other City fan is the ability to keep the back door shut. Millen has looked to sign 5 different defenders but all have opted for other clubs. He's now looking for PL loanee's similar to Caulker last season. That's not going to happen for at least a couple of weeks but it will happen.

The signing of Kilkenny will provide more creativity which was missing last season and I reckon he'll be a big influence. Lets hope he can avoid any injuries. I also reckon we'll see more of an attacking style and am looking forward to the start of the season.

As for Millen not moving on players - most fringe players are under contract for another year and if other clubs don't come in for them what can he do?

I think thats pretty fair. KM will bring in defenders, however we still dont know who will be surplus to requirements and be better than what we have.

We deserve an injury low season after last time and I personally feel we are well covered all over the pitch with the exceptions that we all know about...

I'm a fundamentalist so top 6 (I hope :sun: )

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It would be interesting if we knew which clubs the five unamed defenders opted for.

We are, after all, an established Championship team (for the moment), with possibilities of playing in a new stadium within maybe two or three years. It's also been said that salaries paid by the club are realistic compared to other championship sides.

So why do we seem unable to attract any of the top 5 on Millens list of defenders?

They aren't really "unnamed", of the ones in the public domain:

Billy Jones and Gareth Macauley both joined West Brom.

Andrew Taylor joined Cardiff.

Aaron Cresswell joined Ipswich.

Stephen Crainey opted to stay at Blackpool.

Steven Caldwell joined Birmingham City.

By the way, Arpaul, I agreed with every word of your first post...

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It would be interesting if we knew which clubs the five unamed defenders opted for.

We are, after all, an established Championship team (for the moment), with possibilities of playing in a new stadium within maybe two or three years. It's also been said that salaries paid by the club are realistic compared to other championship sides.

So why do we seem unable to attract any of the top 5 on Millens list of defenders?

Taylor went to his old boss Malky Makay at Cardiff. Billy Jones is now in the PL . Another one (I forget who) opted to sign a new deal at his existing club. I forget who the other two were but I'm sure someone will know.

But the bottom line is that targeted players are sought after and there's always going to be competition.

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Taylor went to his old boss Malky Makay at Cardiff. Billy Jones is now in the PL . Another one (I forget who) opted to sign a new deal at his existing club. I forget who the other two were but I'm sure someone will know.

But the bottom line is that targeted players are sought after and there's always going to be competition.

Thats 5 defenders for 3 positions ALL SUMMER. What happened to his lists? What happened to having more than one potential deal going at a time??

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Thats 5 defenders for 3 positions ALL SUMMER. What happened to his lists? What happened to having more than one potential deal going at a time??

5 defenders that were speculated on widely and later confirmed when directly asked by Millen. Somewhat naive to think there's not more we don't know of, certainly within the past fortnight he's mentioned we've been turned down by more than one.

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Thats 5 defenders for 3 positions ALL SUMMER. What happened to his lists? What happened to having more than one potential deal going at a time??

C'on Riaz, you know as we all do that once the old season ends players and agents bugger off on holiday for at least a month and if you have 5 potential signing and 4 decide to join us the squad will be even more heavy.

That's why Millen has gone down his list one at a time.

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They aren't really "unnamed", of the ones in the public domain:

Billy Jones and Gareth Macauley both joined West Brom.

Andrew Taylor joined Cardiff.

Aaron Cresswell joined Ipswich.

Stephen Crainey opted to stay at Blackpool.

Steven Caldwell joined Birmingham City.

By the way, Arpaul, I agreed with every word of your first post...

Thanks GrahamC.

I can understand players being lured by the premier league, and can fully accept losing out on Jones and Macauley. I can also accept Caldwell joining Birmingham, as several relegated premier league sides have bounced back immediately.

Whilst Ipswich may have had top flight traditions in the past, they have been floundering for a while now, and are as much an 'outpost' in the East, as we are in the West.

Cardiff and Blackpool shouldn't be seen as a bigger attraction than us.

Could it be that we, as a club, are under selling ourselves? and accepting second/third best?

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Thanks GrahamC.

I can understand players being lured by the premier league, and can fully accept losing out on Jones and Macauley. I can also accept Caldwell joining Birmingham, as several relegated premier league sides have bounced back immediately.

Whilst Ipswich may have had top flight traditions in the past, they have been floundering for a while now, and are as much an 'outpost' in the East, as we are in the West.

Cardiff and Blackpool shouldn't be seen as a bigger attraction than us.

Could it be that we, as a club, are under selling ourselves? and accepting second/third best?

Cardiff is down to the inferstruce (new ground) and Blackpool are flavor of the month

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Thanks GrahamC.

I can understand players being lured by the premier league, and can fully accept losing out on Jones and Macauley. I can also accept Caldwell joining Birmingham, as several relegated premier league sides have bounced back immediately.

Whilst Ipswich may have had top flight traditions in the past, they have been floundering for a while now, and are as much an 'outpost' in the East, as we are in the West.

Cardiff and Blackpool shouldn't be seen as a bigger attraction than us.

Could it be that we, as a club, are under selling ourselves? and accepting second/third best?

Cardiff could easily be seen as a big attraction when you've worked with the manager before, similarly Blackpool given Crainey was a current employee. Ipswich is debatable, but funds wise they are in a stronger position than ourselves at present.

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Cardiff is down to the inferstruce (new ground) and Blackpool are flavor of the month

I'm not so sure.

Cardiff have a new ground, yes, but let's be fair, it isn't exactly the Madjeski, or St Marys is it,

As for Blackpool, I think their day has come, and now passed.

It's up to City to put themselves on the front foot, and make players want to come to Ashton Gate, or Ashton Vale, or wherever!

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I'm not so sure.

Cardiff have a new ground, yes, but let's be fair, it isn't exactly the Madjeski, or St Marys is it,

As for Blackpool, I think their day has come, and now passed.

It's up to City to put themselves on the front foot, and make players want to come to Ashton Gate, or Ashton Vale, or wherever!

no buts its better then Ashton Gate paul,

this is why the new ground is so vital we can't compete with out it

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What I don't understand is why people are complaiming that we haven't brought in 2 defenders yet. Yes, we do need them. In an ideal World we would have signed players of the quality of Caulks and Spence permanently and had deals tied up in June or July. However, we have lost out on a few deals for reasons that have been mentioned time and time again and we need to be realistic. We did not have Caulker or Spence at this time last year, so are in no way weaker than this point last year. In fact we have less injuries and have improved in other areas. If we are looking to sign those types of players again, we may not be able to until Prem teams are willing to let them out on loan. This could be in the next few days or even in the next 2-3 weeks. Patience is key though. Millen does not have a magic wand.

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Come on you lot! If and when Keff brings in 1 or 2 defenders we will have a very decent squad, as good if not better than the one that made the play off final! IMO

I think a lot of you will be shocked! I think top 6 is not out the question if we get off to a good start!!:)

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I've just looked down the Championship teams on the BBC.

I think that 8 will definitely finish above us and that 8 will probably finish below us.

That leaves us fighting for "mid-table" with 7 other teams.

I'll plump for 15th though the start will affect everything.

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Different view in the Sunday Telegraph 'Championship Guide'

"A season of struggle awaits, especially if Leicester prise away star striker Nicky Maynard. Defensive reinforcements are still being sourced, but the feeling is that this is a club standing still while others are moving forwards. Just about good enough to stay up though"

Prediction:20th.

(they have Donny, Peterborough and Coventry for relegation, with Millwall just below us!)

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When it comes to loan defenders, everyone knows there will be a lot more movement once PL teams announce their squads. We should be one of the most appealing teams to loan to, due to our proximity to London, and the fact that we can pretty much guarantee that any defender we take on loan will be first choice whenever fit

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Melksham Red - i think you could argue that of the players you mentioned only Caulker is a miss. Spence played a quarter of the season if that. At the moment Maynard is fit and is still a city player and Cisse has every opportunity to sort himself out.

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Melksham Red - i think you could argue that of the players you mentioned only Caulker is a miss. Spence played a quarter of the season if that. At the moment Maynard is fit and is still a city player and Cisse has every opportunity to sort himself out.

You say that like he was'nt a rock at the back? can you not remember the mess of a defence before he came in?

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With a month of the transfer window left its clearly obvious at least one if not 2 defenders will be coming in, anyone that thinks otherwise is deluded or just scare mongering for the sake of it IMO.

I know we can only go on what we see at the moment but come on FFS the back four is going to be shored up before September christ.

Riaz , Mr Gow and others just out of interest are your dire predictions based on the fact you dont think we will see any defenders brought in over the next month?

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With a month of the transfer winow left its clearly obvious at least one if not 2 defenders will be coming in, anyone that thinks otherwise is deluded or just scare mongering for the sake of it.

I know we can only go on what we see at the moment but come on FFS the back four is going to be shored up before September christ.

Riaz , Mr Gow and others just out of interest are your dire predictions based on the fact you dont think we will see any defenders brought in over the next month?

we may very well get in two defenders, but one thing that does not go away is this...

Millen no doubt had a number 1 target, then when that didnt happen he tried target number 2 then when that didnt happen he went on to target number 3, and so on.

So i would imagine we may get target number 8 or 6 or 5? Meaning we will end up doing what Bristol City are great at doing, which is

Replacing players no better or even worse than we allready have

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Riaz , Mr Gow and others just out of interest are your dire predictions based on the fact you dont think we will see any defenders brought in over the next month?

I'm not thinking about the close of the transfer window - for me, we should have these defenders in by saturday. There are 18 points to play for before the window closes......

Like I have said months ago, I get the impression that sorting the defence does not seem as important to Millen as it should be.

The fact we may have no left back or mcallister starting the first game of the season, to me is not good enough.

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Top 6 for me. A lot of teams have brought players in, will take time to gel. Leicester will be under a lot of pressure to start well, so will the hammers.

I think going into the season - we will be up in the top 4 come 10 games in.

After that I don't know.

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I think we have the front line (certainly at the moment) that most teams in the championship would love. We have the defence of an average league one club. I don't think we've enough creativity to out score teams that's why I think we'll struggle this season. Between 14th and 18th is where I reckon we'll finish.

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When talking about the attractiveness of Bristol City compared to other teams, I think some of you may be overlooking the fact we have the gorillas. 60 compelling reasons for any up and coming professional footballer to say yes.

Saying that, some numpty at the council has for some reason agreed to site one in Birmingham - why an earth are we helping our rivals??!! Complete farce - heads should roll.

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I think top 10! am sure Millen will get in the couple of defenders we need :fingerscrossed: before saturday otherwise Jamo is gona have another bisy day!

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Like I have said months ago, I get the impression that sorting the defence does not seem as important to Millen as it should be.

The fact we may have no left back or mcallister starting the first game of the season, to me is not good enough.

That's funny, I and many others got exactly the opposite impression.

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Yeah loads, Millen said we've been turned down by 5 players over the loooooong summer.... Thats for right back left back and centre back...

What happened to these lists and back-up deals....

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