bangers Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,11739_7080419,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 thats not a fall from grace thats just won them league two Bas Savage is the best footballer ever FACT! he should be up there with the likes of messi and maradonna for entertaining prople Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 2 ex City legends reunited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC_Dan Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 Did a good job for us in league one, will do a good job for Northampton in league two. It might be a world away from where he was 18 months ago but I think even RobboRed might admit that Gary Johnson is a good lower league manager and I say fair play to him for returning to what he's good at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 He was on trial at Yeovil 2 weeks ago but deemed not good enough for them. GJ really does make desperate signings at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 Did a good job for us in league one, will do a good job for Northampton in league two. It might be a world away from where he was 18 months ago but I think even RobboRed might admit that Gary Johnson is a good lower league manager and I say fair play to him for returning to what he's good at. He didn't have much choice. There wasn't exactly a long queue of clubs looking to offer him a job after Posh dumped him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 It might be a world away from where he was 18 months ago but I think even RobboRed might admit that Gary Johnson is a good lower league manager and I say fair play to him for returning to what he's good at. I agree. Anything above league 1 and you get players with big ego's on high wages, something GJ was never good at dealing with. He likes to be the main man in the dressing room it always seemed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 Did a good job for us in league one, will do a good job for Northampton in league two. It might be a world away from where he was 18 months ago but I think even RobboRed might admit that Gary Johnson is a good lower league manager and I say fair play to him for returning to what he's good at. If they hadn't picked up in the last 5-6 games of last season GJ would be a Conference manager now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 He was on trial at Yeovil 2 weeks ago but deemed not good enough for them. GJ really does make desperate signings at times. Whilst I would never class Bas Savage as anything other than a sub standard sunday morning pub team player - the statement that he was not good enough for Yeovil and therefore is a desperate signing for Northampton is wide of the mark IMO. Northampton finished near the bottom of L2 last season, whereas Yeovil are an established L1 team (arguably the 2nd best in the west country at present after the demise of other local clubs ) Therefore not being deemed as good enough by Yeovil, does not make this a bad signing for Northampton. (The fact that he is possibly the worst pro football in England, does!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex#40 Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 I agree. Anything above league 1 and you get players with big ego's on high wages, something GJ was never good at dealing with. He likes to be the main man in the dressing room it always seemed. I think that is probably the best summing up of why Johnson at City had to end that I've ever read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 Whilst I would never class Bas Savage as anything other than a sub standard sunday morning pub team player - the statement that he was not good enough for Yeovil and therefore is a desperate signing for Northampton is wide of the mark IMO. Northampton finished near the bottom of L2 last season, whereas Yeovil are an established L1 team (arguably the 2nd best in the west country at present after the demise of other local clubs ) Therefore not being deemed as good enough by Yeovil, does not make this a bad signing for Northampton. (The fact that he is possibly the worst pro football in England, does!) That's a fair point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economou Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 I agree. Anything above league 1 and you get players with big ego's on high wages, something GJ was never good at dealing with. He likes to be the main man in the dressing room it always seemed. I agree, GJ was an absolute disaster with us in the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Tansley Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 Has scored quite a bit over the last few seasons. Will be effective in league 2. They're my pick to win league 2 with Crawley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 Mine too. A shrewed move to cover an injury crisis. I hope he scores to send the sags down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 They say Andy Smith is going to buy a house close to a petrol station in Northampton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendip City Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 I agree, GJ was an absolute disaster with us in the Championship. seem to remember one half decent season!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex#40 Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 seem to remember one half decent season!!!!!! But we did it with 90% of the League 1 squad. When bigger egos, wages etc came along (Hartley etc) that is when he started to lose control. IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 He likes to be the main man in the dressing room it always seemed. Nothing unusual there surely, seems normal and reasonable to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendip City Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 But we did it with 90% of the League 1 squad. When bigger egos, wages etc came along (Hartley etc) that is when he started to lose control. IMO. Yeah tend to agree actually! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJC Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 He clearly has a massive ego and needs to be in charge of his dressing room but what he achieved here, in League One and the Championship, was remarkable given the years of stagnation that had gone before it. People have incredibly short memories and in a time when fans bemoan 'player power' it amazes me that folk seem so keen to lay the blame at the managers feet. Personally I've heard various things from various sources, some of which make me think he wasn't an incredibly understanding, nice, manager to work for, but his record here was outstanding. He must take some responsibility for losing the dressing room, but it was the players lack of bottle and concentration that conceded countless last minute goals leaving us bottom half rather than playoffs when he finally left. The biggest irony is that, if you believe what you hear, two of the main ringleaders went on to leave that summer. Both would no doubt receive a standing ovation and idolisation on return while the man who dragged this club up by it's boot straps and nearly achieved an unthinkable double promotion is undermined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusader Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 Can you really call Bas Savage bad whilst he is a professional player? lets face it none of us are desp[ite having trials at 5 pro clubs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Reynolds Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 He didn't have much choice. There wasn't exactly a long queue of clubs looking to offer him a job after Posh dumped him. He was out of work for less than two months... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 He clearly has a massive ego and needs to be in charge of his dressing room but what he achieved here, in League One and the Championship, was remarkable given the years of stagnation that had gone before it. People have incredibly short memories and in a time when fans bemoan 'player power' it amazes me that folk seem so keen to lay the blame at the managers feet. Personally I've heard various things from various sources, some of which make me think he wasn't an incredibly understanding, nice, manager to work for, but his record here was outstanding. He must take some responsibility for losing the dressing room, but it was the players lack of bottle and concentration that conceded countless last minute goals leaving us bottom half rather than playoffs when he finally left. The biggest irony is that, if you believe what you hear, two of the main ringleaders went on to leave that summer. Both would no doubt receive a standing ovation and idolisation on return while the man who dragged this club up by it's boot straps and nearly achieved an unthinkable double promotion is undermined. Your bottom paragraph is spot on and couldn't have said it better myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 But we did it with 90% of the League 1 squad. When bigger egos, wages etc came along (Hartley etc) that is when he started to lose control. IMO. I always felt the 'no one likes us, we don't care' attitude wore thin, the players stopped over performing and were replaced with mediocre Championship rejects on the whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 I agree, GJ was an absolute disaster with us in the Championship. Absolutely I bet KM, SL and CS wish that bad man GJ had'nt got us promoted to the championship, FFS whatever was he thinking about, i'm just glad he never got us a to a play off final, because then perhaps some people on this forum might have delusions of grandeur about our expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Mosquito Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 http://www.skysports...7080419,00.html I wish Gary Johnson and Bas Savage the best of luck at Northampton. May they bag the 6 points against the Gas in the coming season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stortfordred Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 http://www.skysports...7080419,00.html That photo is brilliant!! Caption competition please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 Nothing unusual there surely, seems normal and reasonable to me. I agree to an extent, but its the 21st century and weather we like it or not there are certain players (as i said you seem to encounter them more when you go above league one) that have big ego's and influences within a dressing room. A good manager is somebody who can deal with this, Johnson couldn't IMO. I mean how many players were not signed on the grounds of ''there attitude wasn't good enough'' quite a few i think. Jermaine Easter was the only one i can re-call but im shore there were a lot more than just him rejected because Johnson didn't have the skills required to deal with them.. Another masive flaw of his was the way he took fan criticism.. How many times did we see him in interviews (mainly in the last 2 season's when things were going downhill) almost personally attack us fans? Its no coincidence that Johnson didn't go on to a bigger club after us. Maybe the offers wern't there when he left here who knows but i really dont think he would have had it in him to go to a Leeds or somewhere. He's back in his comfort zone now, a small club where he can be lord of the manor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 He clearly has a massive ego and needs to be in charge of his dressing room but what he achieved here, in League One and the Championship, was remarkable given the years of stagnation that had gone before it. People have incredibly short memories and in a time when fans bemoan 'player power' it amazes me that folk seem so keen to lay the blame at the managers feet. Personally I've heard various things from various sources, some of which make me think he wasn't an incredibly understanding, nice, manager to work for, but his record here was outstanding. He must take some responsibility for losing the dressing room, but it was the players lack of bottle and concentration that conceded countless last minute goals leaving us bottom half rather than playoffs when he finally left. The biggest irony is that, if you believe what you hear, two of the main ringleaders went on to leave that summer. Both would no doubt receive a standing ovation and idolisation on return while the man who dragged this club up by it's boot straps and nearly achieved an unthinkable double promotion is undermined. top post... as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Casual Connoisseur Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 We owe our best recent memories to Gary Johnson, I never liked the man or his style but you cant argue with the success he achieved, he massively over achieved in that one glorious "nearly" season. When if ever will we get that excitement and buzz again? Good luck to him and super Bas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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