chipdawg Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 http://www.bcfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10327~2494963,00.html I note there were a number of reserve team 'stalwarts' missing from the line up against Exeter; perhaps an indication that Del & Doc are open to sweeping changes on Saturday at Barnsley? What price Hunt, Bolasie and Taylor starting?! I'd certainly like to see Bolasie given a go on one of the wings, he's scored fairly regularly for the reserves so far this season. Hunt.... well i was at Leeds so i know how bad he can be, but surely no player does that twice in their career?!
Super Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 http://www.bcfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10327~2494963,00.html I note there were a number of reserve team 'stalwarts' missing from the line up against Exeter; perhaps an indication that Del & Doc are open to sweeping changes on Saturday at Barnsley? What price Hunt, Bolasie and Taylor starting?! I'd certainly like to see Bolasie given a go on one of the wings, he's scored fairly regularly for the reserves so far this season. Hunt.... well i was at Leeds so i know how bad he can be, but surely no player does that twice in their career?! Yes Hunt played well for us the last time he was in Yorkshire!
Robbored Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 Hunt would be too big a risk imo. I can't see him, Taylor or Bolasie starting having not being in the squad on Sunday. Bench maybe.
i hate you butler Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 Hunt would be too big a risk imo. I can't see him, Taylor or Bolasie starting having not being in the squad on Sunday. Bench maybe. whats to say hunt gets given a fresh chance by del say 5 games to see if his confidence is back could be a reminder of the issue with steve jones.you dont play 150 odd games in prem if youre no good.give the bloke a go i say specially not much more to lose at moment and make him earn his money you never know could turn out to be a masterstroke
Guest jhowie11 Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 Hunt can't prove to be that much worse than the way our defence is playing at the moment...can he? Give him and the rest a chance!
GrahamC Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 I think all you can deduce from the side that went to Exeter is that Ribeiro isn't in first team contention. The rest of that side was largely first and second year pros who haven't really ever been near the first team anyway (Ball, Lennox, Amadi-Holloway, etc). Even with Carey and McAllister injured that still leaves him around 22 to choose from. We'll only know whether Hunt will get a second chance or Taylor will get a go when the starting XI line up on Saturday, my guess would be in both cases that they won't and that as the paper says today he'll go with experience but what do I know?
Guest ashtonphil Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 Experience?? 150 games in the Prem is experience - Don't be surprised if Hunt is at least on the bench. This is speculation on my part - i don't know anything about team selection..
Guest bcfc_kieran Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 I imagine it will be pretty similar to Brum game. James Skuse Fontaine Stewart McGivern Adomah Elliott Kilkenny JCR/Loanee Maynard Stead Gerken Spence Cisse Taylor Pitman After Saturday you still think he will be there? Got a feeling it might be Pitman and Stead upfront sat. Wouldn't be surprised to see Cisse start with Elliot in the middle and kilkenny/new face on the left!
pride of the west Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 Experience?? 150 games in the Prem is experience - Don't be surprised if Hunt is at least on the bench. This is speculation on my part - i don't know anything about team selection.. hunt wont make the bench. not now theres only 4 outfield players to choose from. you chose a bench to assure against potential injuries or to change the game. he can only play right back and a right back aint gonna change a game so placing him on the bench would only be to cover a potential injury to the starting right back. its pretty carp now you can only have 5 on the bench. depending on starting line up you would expect to see 1 keeper, 1 defender, 1 central mid and 2 strikers or 1 winger and a striker. Dont really want hunt as our covering defender.
Red-Robbo Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 I imagine it will be pretty similar to Brum game. James Skuse Fontaine Stewart McGivern Adomah Elliott Kilkenny JCR/Loanee Maynard Stead Gerken Spence Cisse Taylor Pitman Yeah, that worked really well on Sunday, didn't it? Hopefully, Del will have the nouse to drop JCR and the courage to rest Maynard. Have I missed a reason suggesting that Nyatanga isn't available?
redlandrebel Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 Surely he's going to drop Jamo and give Gerken another chance? Poor old Jamo's performances seem to get worse every week.
Monkeh Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 Yeah, that worked really well on Sunday, didn't it? Hopefully, Del will have the nouse to drop JCR and the courage to rest Maynard. Have I missed a reason suggesting that Nyatanga isn't available? they were not a million miles away sunday remember they were playing against prem team on paper and a prem team in europe to boot, they didn't out class us like swansea did but they did show us prem quility in possession, No disrepct to Barnsley but I don't think they are even half as good on paper as birmingham are, should be a tough but closer game,
bearded_red Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 I know I'm becoming somewhat of a broken record on the subject, but surely Pitman starts?!
Pederho ll Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 I think it will be a massive error of judgement if DM picks anything like a team that resembles the starting line up V Brum. We know it's poor and unable to get results, so it's time for mass changes and a fresh start.
Robbored Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 I think it will be a massive error of judgement if DM picks anything like a team that resembles the starting line up V Brum. We know it's poor and unable to get results, so it's time for mass changes and a fresh start. Its a tough call. Does he stick with the players who huffed and puffed against Brum but ultimately lost the game or opt to make changes and bring players like Bolasie, Taylor and Hunt? Personally I reckon it will be the tactics and formation that get the biggest overhaul rather than the players.
Roger Red Hat Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 If DM needs information about Hunt I'm sure Coyle would be able to give him a bit of a low down.
funky monkey Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 I imagine it will be pretty similar to Brum game. James Skuse Fontaine Stewart McGivern Adomah Elliott Kilkenny JCR/Loanee Maynard Stead Gerken Spence Cisse Taylor Pitman Im predicting big changes that team feels me with no confidence what so ever. He has seen the team play trained with them for 2 weeks Changes PLEASE
Monkeh Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 Its a tough call. Does he stick with the players who huffed and puffed against Brum but ultimately lost the game or opt to make changes and bring players like Bolasie, Taylor and Hunt? Personally I reckon it will be the tactics and formation that get the biggest overhaul rather than the players. spot on, we know the players can do it we've seen them under johnson do it (about half) and at times under millen
Guest Johners26 Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 Surely he's going to drop Jamo and give Gerken another chance? Poor old Jamo's performances seem to get worse every week. Two point blank world class instinct saves from James on Sunday kept us in the game (one in each half). He had no chance with either goal. I think he'd have a right to be miffed to be dropped for Saturday. He's not perfect but then who is? Not Gerkin judging by his performance in Blackpool!
Greedo Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 I may be in the minority but I'm really hoping Hunt gets a chance to prove himself on Saturday. He could completely turn himself around, it's been said but you don't get 100+ Premier league caps for being a poor player!
Riaz Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 Personally I reckon it will be the tactics and formation that get the biggest overhaul rather than the players. Interesting. You are coming round to my view that our players aren't THAT bad... and it's poor tactics and poor organisation that has ot us to where we are today? Of course the manager wants to bring in a player or 2, on loan - was always going to have to with the clearly unbalanced squad we have.
B-Rizzle Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 Over ten years isn't... It's not like he was an experienced pro for all ten of those years. The fact is for atleast 4 years he was a regular starter in a premier league Bolton side. This 10 years rubbish paints a completely inaccurate picture of his time at Bolton.
Nogbad the Bad Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 The fact is for atleast 4 years he was a regular starter in a premier league Bolton side. This 10 years rubbish paints a completely inaccurate picture of his time at Bolton. Partly because in his last two seasons there he made no appearances for Bolton at all. The fact is Bolton fans couldn't wait to get rid of him. Birmingham and Derby fans didn't rate him when he was on loan. Every appearance for City has been dreadful culminating in that absolutely shocking performance at Leeds. Fairly conclusive evidence that if he ever was any good then he hasn't been for a long time, and certainly not just while with BCFC. Horrendous signing.
hinsleburg Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 Partly because in his last two seasons there he made no appearances for Bolton at all. The fact is Bolton fans couldn't wait to get rid of him. Birmingham and Derby fans didn't rate him when he was on loan. Every appearance for City has been dreadful culminating in that absolutely shocking performance at Leeds. Fairly conclusive evidence that if he ever was any good then he hasn't been for a long time, and certainly not just while with BCFC. Horrendous signing. He was in the football league team of the week for his performance against S****horpe.....
Nogbad the Bad Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 He was in the football league team of the week for his performance against S****horpe..... Really, who exactly chooses that, and on what basis?
hinsleburg Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 Really, who exactly chooses that, and on what basis? No idea but it always sticks in my mind for some reason. I think it was skysports so probably that tit beagrie.
SJC Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 Partly because in his last two seasons there he made no appearances for Bolton at all. The fact is Bolton fans couldn't wait to get rid of him. Birmingham and Derby fans didn't rate him when he was on loan. Every appearance for City has been dreadful culminating in that absolutely shocking performance at Leeds. Fairly conclusive evidence that if he ever was any good then he hasn't been for a long time, and certainly not just while with BCFC. Horrendous signing. This is the problem when people talk about a new era, a fresh start, it's simply not plausible. Hunt could come in tomorrow and play brilliantly only for folk to say, in it's essence quite rightly if applied across the board, 'it's only one game.' He could come in and play poorly and he'll be written off entirely. Fresh starts and clean slates are simply not feesible. Football fans have strong opinions and, once set, are difficult to budge. I'm sure I read somewhere that City have the second worst goal difference in the top four leagues, yet if Hunt plays tomorrow and we lose 3-0 it will, in many people's eyes, be because of him. Personally, if he's match fit and mentally ready, absolutely get him in and let's get behind him and the rest of them. Exactly where that would leave Spence is a different conversation. Versus Reading we conceded three goals in 20 minutes. Five in total, three in ten (?) at Blackpool, we need a solid, strong, competitive base. For me currently that means Stewart, for all his limitations, offers presence in the middle, Fontaine alongside him with McAllister (when fit) at left back. James in goal, Cisse sat infront of them and, IF McInnes thinks he's the best option that's good enough for me, Hunt at right back. As a quick aside I felt Skuse was pretty tidy back there vs Brum.
Nogbad the Bad Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 No idea but it always sticks in my mind for some reason. I think it was skysports so probably that tit beagrie. Tit Beagrie hates us, so probably a tongue in cheek nomination to take any opportunity to take the piss out of the club. Either that or the one player at BCFC he could think of, what with being a new signing. How can anybody possibly say one particular right back was better than the other 23 Championship right backs on the day? Did he watch them all, did Hunt do something amazing, earth shattering even? Unless on the day he was an absolutely outstanding brick wall of a defender who let nothing pass him, won every header, and also rampaged forward menacingly all afternoon and scored a couple. Anyway, I'll happily admit I wasn't at S****horpe, but I don't believe Hunt is capable of such a momentous, towering and outstanding performance. I'll rephrase then, Hunt was absolutely dreadful in every game for City, EXCEPT at S****horpe where for one game Tit Beagrie apparently reckoned he was suddenly fantastic, and easily the best right back in the Championship, probably the bloody world.
i hate you butler Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 please correct me if im wrong etc but personally went to scunny that day and cant remember hunt playing at all!!!!!!!!! bound to be wrong methinks
Nogbad the Bad Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 please correct me if im wrong etc but personally went to scunny that day and cant remember hunt playing at all!!!!!!!!! bound to be wrong methinks I've just looked up the S****horpe match report Blakey and Hunt did indeed play that day. He's named in the line up, but somewhat incredibly, considering his apparently Titan like display, he's not mentioned in the match report at all. I suppose as he's a a full back you could say that probably just means he didn't make any noteworthy howlers, but nothing also to suggest he made a mammoth contribution to merit the accolade of Championship Right Back Of The Week either. Right back In no particular order: Spence, Ribeiro, Skuse, Edwards, Ball, Elliot, Carey, um...er...possibly last resort Hunt.
hinsleburg Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 I've just looked up the S****horpe match report Blakey and Hunt did indeed play that day. He's named in the line up, but somewhat incredibly, considering his apparently Titan like display, he's not mentioned in the match report at all. I suppose as he's a a full back you could say that probably just means he didn't make any noteworthy howlers, but nothing also to suggest he made a mammoth contribution to merit the accolade of Championship Right Back Of The Week either. Right back In no particular order: Spence, Ribeiro, Skuse, Edwards, Ball, Elliot, Carey, um...er...possibly last resort Hunt. I was unable to find the team of the week that i'm 100% sure Hunt appeared in however I did find this. Oh how times change ay Nicky? http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11672/2410322/
jay mizel Posted October 29, 2011 Posted October 29, 2011 Team tomorrow: James Hunt Wilson Nyatanga Fontaine Adomah Kilkenny Cisse JCR Pitman Stead All equals CITY win!
Pickle Rick Posted October 29, 2011 Posted October 29, 2011 Surely he's going to drop Jamo and give Gerken another chance? Poor old Jamo's performances seem to get worse every week. How man chances does Gerken have to prove he is more than piss poor? We need a new goalie, unless DMI & TD know how to teach goalies?
Cider Army Posted October 29, 2011 Posted October 29, 2011 Why shouldnt nicky hunt have a chance..Name one player that has deserved a chance this season and name a player that has had confidence in playing under millen..You dont make 100 plus games and close to an england call up for nothing..Im all for him being a right back and as mcinnes said he wants experience in the back line..Sorry but if hunt was that bad a player or person on and off the field why was he selected to play in teams full of youngster learning the game!! Its a squad game but i have feeling if given the chance he would shine for us(if im mistaken fair enough)This isnt the time to slag any player off we are rock bottom and i have every trust in mcinnes to get are club out of it..who ever plays...Hunt plays against barnsley then fair play to him as his pre season form showed..ie bobby reid should be included to.
Warwickshire Red Posted October 29, 2011 Posted October 29, 2011 Team tomorrow: James Hunt Wilson Nyatanga Fontaine Adomah Kilkenny Cisse JCR Pitman Stead All equals CITY win! With Wilson and Nyatanga in central defence I doubt it. DMc has said he needs experience so unlikely pairing. I really hope DMc is targetting a CB loan signing as that's one of the crucial areas that needs addressing... and quickly. EP saying Dmc looking for CB and midfielder http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/529007879?-1007
WarksRed Posted October 29, 2011 Posted October 29, 2011 Well we know that Wolford and Clarkson were in the squad went to Barnsley
hinsleburg Posted October 29, 2011 Posted October 29, 2011 Well we know that Wolford and Clarkson were in the squad went to Barnsley Not neccessarily, players who aren't in the squad but in the fringes nearly always travel due to potential injuries etc.
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