Bristol_South_End Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 Bit of a narrow view imo. McGivern brings height and pace to the back 4. He gets forward very well ( far better than McAllister ) and it was his cross that lead to Elliot's goal at Watford. All full backs get caught out of position at times( Orr was brilliant at it ) because its part of their game to get forward to support the attack. Plus no full back is unbeatable and every so often they come against a winger they find hard to handle. Ask any full back who has come up against Albert this season. All things considered McGivern is a decent player and I would like to see him on a City contract. He only played 4 games for Palace so I doubt they saw enough of him to form a reliable opinion. While I agree with most of the things you said here, and I too would like us to offer him a full contract, McGivern certainly does NOT bring pace to the back four, the only defenders we have slower than him are Carey and Stewart! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JammyOne Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 McGivern has been doing well and Mcinnes seems to think so. He's very young and if we sign him for a few years he will improve no doubt. He can also contribute to us getting promoted next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 I kind of agree with the first poster. He has done okay, but not particularly great to be shelling money out on. He seems to be turned easily and finds himself out of position a lot, he seems to lacking pace for a full back as well. I will say he puts a half decent ball in. Keep him to do a job while we are short, but most definitely not a permanent signing. What is the news on Mcallister anyway? is the injury gone now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 What is the news on Mcallister anyway? is the injury gone now? He's been fit for the last month or so but I've heard he's still hoofing it in training............................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne allisons tongues Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 Think he's doing ok, his best position according to man city fans I speak to is cb. So think he's doing a good job where he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i hate you butler Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 maybe he is not better than mcallister but looking at it long term i would rather us sign another lb than sign mgivern full time who's MGIVERN?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshbristol Posted January 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 not steven crainey martin cranie of coventry england under 21 international Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 i would rather us sign joe mattock , george friend or martin cranie all decent full backs and would all be intrested in a move to us Would that be the Joe mattock that Danny Haynes tortured when we played WBA season before last? One of the slowest fullbacks I've ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tales From The Front Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 To single him out his more than harsh, he has suffered like most of the team from perhaps not being up for a lot of games. McInnes commented on this on sky after the game when he said that "for whatever reason" the team had not played as well as they should have recently. He was obviously delighted at Fridays result and perofrmance but I thought also angry at recent performances. Back to the OP I like him I think he shows a lot of commitment to the cause, he was as delighted as anyone with Fridays result (see the gallery on the main site) and he has a half decent left foot and has put in some decent crosses at times, room for improvement yes, more consitency yes, but that applies to everyone. Will get better I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadrunner Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 I was impressed with him at Southampton. Most importently the person who matters most the manager rates him, as he picks him every match. He also talking to Mancester city about his furture, and would expect him to be one of our first signings in the transfer window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedUn Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 ryan mgivern is a poor lb i really hope we dont sign him and look for another lb in the window he was terrible in southampton and is no improvment to mccalister I shudder to think what De Ridder would have done to McAllister with his lack of pace. McGivern is on a learning curve but it is upward and he'll do for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 Good left backs are so difficult to find it's ridiculous. McGivern obviously has potential as he's been at Man City and signed a new deal with them.. I think he's good enough at this level and is young so i'd say sign him on a perm basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garland-sweden Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 I think he's been slowly improving lately. Started off kind of poor but seems a bit more settled now. With him being young I'd say he's worth a perm deal, after all, left back is a hard position to fill these days. He is young and getting better and better. We have tohave 2 lb. Del will try to get him Imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor10 Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 Bit of a narrow view imo. McGivern brings height and pace to the back 4. He gets forward very well ( far better than McAllister ) and it was his cross that lead to Elliot's goal at Watford. All full backs get caught out of position at times( Orr was brilliant at it ) because its part of their game to get forward to support the attack. Plus no full back is unbeatable and every so often they come against a winger they find hard to handle. Ask any full back who has come up against Albert this season. All things considered McGivern is a decent player and I would like to see him on a City contract. He only played 4 games for Palace so I doubt they saw enough of him to form a reliable opinion. McGivern does not bring any pace at all!! He has height but isn't particularly good in the air either! Although there is room for improvement with Him, imo He is better than what we have. If we were to sign Him on a permanent basis then I would trust Del's opinion! One thing that would encourage Me is the fact He is young and will hopefully get better! It could be seen as a positive signing with age on His side. At least We wouldn't be going down the road of signing poor players that are at a standard above what they are capable of playing at, and coming to the end of their days such as Stewart or JCR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 I shudder to think what De Ridder would have done to McAllister with his lack of pace. McGivern is on a learning curve but it is upward and he'll do for me. Exactly. McGivern was up against their paciest player and probably biggest goal threat on the night. The fact that he coped says a lot for the lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnstapleRed Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 all very well when we sign him permantley but when macca returns what happens then? We have an expensive wage sat in the stands as LB isn't a position to put on bench. No need to sign RM full time as we can get a lb in on loan should we ever need. Save our pennies for Pearson and a striker... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i hate you butler Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 Exactly. McGivern was up against their paciest player and probably biggest goal threat on the night. The fact that he coped says a lot for the lad. to be honest can anyone think of a standout mistake or blunder rg's made-to me very similar to fontaine when he first came to ag-gets on with the job quietly and efficiently and is definately improving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 all very well when we sign him permantley but when macca returns what happens then? We have an expensive wage sat in the stands as LB isn't a position to put on bench. No need to sign RM full time as we can get a lb in on loan should we ever need. Save our pennies for Pearson and a striker... Pretty sure McAllister is out of contract in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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