Chappers Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Don't get me wrong, I feel very sorry for their fans. They've gone from one false messiah to the next and have been powerless to do anything. But you can't compare it to our situation in 1982. We were forced to sell our players, survived by the good grace of 8 others tearing up their contracts and were forced to play kids and reserves for most of the rest of te decade. Portsmouth have been given a second chance without nearly the sanctions that were imposed on us and just carried on as before. It's not fair and it should be punished Just to correct history, we finished 81/82 with a mixed bag of whatever we could get, 82/83 we started with a lot of kids, but grdually TC built a solid team, and the following season we even splashed out £10K on Steve Johnson. after that, City moved forward, with LDV (Or whatever it was) in 1986 and 1987, and had some quality in Alan Walsh, Joe Jordan, Steve Neville, Keith Curle, Rob Newman ...... And Trevor Morgan of course.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Just to correct history, we finished 81/82 with a mixed bag of whatever we could get, 82/83 we started with a lot of kids, but grdually TC built a solid team, and the following season we even splashed out £10K on Steve Johnson. after that, City moved forward, with LDV (Or whatever it was) in 1986 and 1987, and had some quality in Alan Walsh, Joe Jordan, Steve Neville, Keith Curle, Rob Newman ...... And Trevor Morgan of course.... Didn't Steve Johnson come later for about 30-40k? Was John Kerr the £10k signing? By heck we had some fun under Terry Cooper though. Despite our position the club had a smile on its face. Now it's a scowl. Nostalgia's not what it used to be. Nor is my memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Didn't Steve Johnson come later for about 30-40k? Was John Kerr the £10k signing? By heck we had some fun under Terry Cooper though. Despite our position the club had a smile on its face. Now it's a scowl. Nostalgia's not what it used to be. Nor is my memory. £ for £ Kerr was much better value than Rambo Johnson (IMHO of course). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCAGFC Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Steve Johnson et al, those were the days when players appreciated what they earnt. Wish we could go back in time. BCAGFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoner_1990 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 late kick off brushed on it but having looked up on this i believe now they entered administration the 10 points should now come off this season and within next 14 days!i may have got confused or read it wrong i dont know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Vodafone owe £6 billion ... they are still going... I have nothing to do with Vodafone and this isn't important in the context of this thread, but you do know this is the biggest load of left wing liberal propaganda doing the rounds (usually among the occupy protestors). It simply isn't true and is explained only by inaccurate opportunist accounting by their critics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Interesting. My source was http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/feb/05/nigel-doughty-nottingham-forest?INTCMP=SRCH. It is understood that Doughty made provision to ensure the club's debts are met for the next two and a half years when he decided to step down as chairman in October amid growing supporter unrest and after admitting that he made a mistake when he appointed Steve McClaren as manager that summer. Doughty's backing meant that he would invest a further £23m between now and the end of the 2013-14 season. The wider issue of what happens regarding the £75.6m that Doughty is owed will only become clear when details of his beneficiaries are revealed. I guess your point is the last sentence? Yes sorry thought it was this season but maybe next as well. The bottom bit would be worrying.. Wasn't this what happened to Gretna? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Squirrel Kingdom Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 I have nothing to do with Vodafone and this isn't important in the context of this thread, but you do know this is the biggest load of left wing liberal propaganda doing the rounds (usually among the occupy protestors). It simply isn't true and is explained only by inaccurate opportunist accounting by their critics. Thank you for your unsolicited and unnecessary opinion. Now back to football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Thank you for your unsolicited and unnecessary opinion. No problem. Just helping out - I didn't post the claim, which was inaccurate and also unnecessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Just to correct history, we finished 81/82 with a mixed bag of whatever we could get, 82/83 we started with a lot of kids, but grdually TC built a solid team, and the following season we even splashed out £10K on Steve Johnson. after that, City moved forward, with LDV (Or whatever it was) in 1986 and 1987, and had some quality in Alan Walsh, Joe Jordan, Steve Neville, Keith Curle, Rob Newman ...... And Trevor Morgan of course.... Point taken, I was trying to melodramatic! The point is though, our finances were horribly mismanaged and we ended up dropping 4 divisions. Terry Cooper may have produced a solid team but they were a solid 4th division team! Portsmouth's finances were horribly mismanaged and they signed Liam Lawrence and David Kitson on £25k a week each Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 ... lest we forget: BCFC Loss 2009 £6.56 M, 2010 Loss £11 M, 2011 Loss £11.45 M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 I have nothing to do with Vodafone and this isn't important in the context of this thread, but you do know this is the biggest load of left wing liberal propaganda doing the rounds (usually among the occupy protestors). It simply isn't true and is explained only by inaccurate opportunist accounting by their critics. http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2011/dec/06/hmrc-tax-deal-vodafone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2011/dec/06/hmrc-tax-deal-vodafone "allegations". " ....vodaphone has done nothing wrong" Did you read the article? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 They have enough quality to stay up. Fantastic supporters. So much quality they are 4 whole points above us before their deduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2011/dec/06/hmrc-tax-deal-vodafone I have no great compulsion to distract a football thread given the negative remarks on here, I've done enough to point out the Vodafone claim is a myth, but since it still seems to be something you and others might believe (and in doing so get the perception that papers are right, big business is evil, taxing everyone is great) let me just point out again, this £6bn dodge doesn't exist. It's a myth, very creative but inconsistent accounting by critics. It concerns money made by Vodafone in a German business they bought (Mannesman) for which they paid German taxes. The figure they're accused of is based on a calculation of UK corporation tax for profits in Germany. It was never a tax bill they owed. If they had to pay tax in the UK on profits in Germany then we'd have to accept foreign multi-nationals paying tax in their home countries for profits in the UK - and we don't, and rightly so. We can't have it both ways. Vodafone do NOT owe £6bn unless we want to give foreign firms operating in the UK back many billions in tax. UK tax laws DO have provision for firms to still pay taxes on overseas profits on the difference between UK rates and the overseas rate paid (to prevent the effect of tax havens). So Vodafone do owe the difference between 30% UK corporation tax and the rate paid for their German profits. This is in Vodafone's accounts, they put aside £2bn to pay that tax bill, pending agreement with the HMRC. Sorry to go off topic but too often there is garbage published in the papers and used to beat business with, which becomes matter of fact for people, however untrue it is. Our own club's owner runs a leading UK plc and likely operates with the same assumption of law breaking simply because he makes money. It's not fair, it's a cheap political shot which says nothing for the good these people do. All this being said, far more importantly, Brett Pittman is ******* awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenn Loyal Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Lets hope Pompey merge with Havant & Portalooville and save our arse, because thats about all that will, plus Pompey deserve whats coming there way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 The total debts for Portsmouth have been announced as just under 50 mill, it's a joke that nearly 200 mill including the debt from 2 years ago, 10 points is nowhere near enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 ... lest we forget: BCFC Loss 2009 £6.56 M, 2010 Loss £11 M, 2011 Loss £11.45 M Indeed but we pay our suppliers and our debt rests with SL, not HMRC..that's the difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Forget all this 10 point rubbish Any team who goes into administration should be dropped into Div 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duesseldorf Citizen Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 Forget all this 10 point rubbish Any team who goes into administration should be dropped into Div 2 At least when they do twice in a couple of months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 ... lest we forget: BCFC Loss 2009 £6.56 M, 2010 Loss £11 M, 2011 Loss £11.45 M We owe the bank £0 we owe the HMRC £0 we owe SL Everything They don't pay their bills or suppliers we do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Watts Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 Had to laugh when I just read this hard luck story - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17067079 Poor ickle hard up diddums.... They can't even afford to have Liam Lawrence's injury assessed... ON HIS BLOODY WAGES I'M SURE HE CAN AFFORD TO PAY IT HIMSELF!!!! I know he's not been paid since December, but I'm sure he's not exactly destitute....if he wanted to play for the club he'd make sure he got a scan and relevant treatment. There are ways to try and get public sympathy on your side, but this isn't one of those ways for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenn Loyal Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 Pity they dont go pop and disapear full stop, perhaps then that bell ringing wig wearing freak will then follow Havant & Portalooville the up and coming south coast club . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 We owe the bank £0 we owe the HMRC £0 we owe SL Everything They don't pay their bills or suppliers we do We owe the bank a lot of money actually and will continue to do so until SL's largesse kicks in to clear the debt that he has run up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red Rich Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 I were a Rangers fan I'd be very concerned by this morning's news! Former Portsmouth and current Sheffield Wednesday chairman Milan Mandaric is interested in buying Rangers. The administrators revealed on Thursday they had already heard from parties interested in the crisis-hit club. And BBC Scotland has learned the Serbian - last week cleared of two counts of tax evasion - is one of those to have contacted Duff and Phelps. Mandaric, who has also been in charge at Leicester, took over at Hillsborough 11 months ago. More to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 I were a Rangers fan I'd be very concerned by this morning's news! Former Portsmouth and current Sheffield Wednesday chairman Milan Mandaric is interested in buying Rangers. The administrators revealed on Thursday they had already heard from parties interested in the crisis-hit club. And BBC Scotland has learned the Serbian - last week cleared of two counts of tax evasion - is one of those to have contacted Duff and Phelps. Mandaric, who has also been in charge at Leicester, took over at Hillsborough 11 months ago. More to follow. He wasn't at fault for portsmouth's troubles, and he's saved both Liecester and Wednesday from administration I wouldn't be too worried Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 He wasn't at fault for portsmouth's troubles, and he's saved both Liecester and Wednesday from administration I wouldn't be too worried Yeah but Rangers have already got tax problems and if Mandaric comes..... Oh wait, he was found innocent wasn't he I think Rangers are in a situation where they will have to let whoever comes up with the most convincing offer take over. They're well and truly up shit creek. On the plus side, maybe we can have a few of their players when they get made redundant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snufflelufagus Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 So todays the day Pompey are going back into Admin. -10 points (doesn't seem enough really). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 BBC say it could be as much as 20 points. Also say that we are owed by Portsmouth for something or other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 Not sure how it's not set in stone that it could be a) 10 points or b) 20 points. Nobody seems to know....surely these things should be clear for all to know/see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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