Antman Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 "I've no problems being proved wrong," said the manager. "But I'm of the same opinion about Brett as our supporters. I know his qualities and what he's capable of.' uh? I get the feelings most of the 'supporters' want to see 2 up front Del, and Pitman being one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangers Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 We will see that from now on id imagine. Defiantely at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JammyOne Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 I get the feeling Derek knows a bit more about football management than most of the fools who keep persisting in saying 'play 442'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchay Red Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 I get the feeling Derek knows a bit more about football management than most of the fools who keep persisting in saying 'play 442'. Of course. But we know a lot more about Pitman in a match playing situation because we've seen him play a lot more games than DMc has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 "I've no problems being proved wrong," said the manager. "But I'm of the same opinion about Brett as our supporters. I know his qualities and what he's capable of.' uh? I get the feelings most of the 'supporters' want to see 2 up front Del, and Pitman being one of them. I would think that most supporters were dissapointed with BP's ineffective (albeit limited) contribution when he has been given any game time in the last 3/4 months. Hopefully now, after Tuesday, he has delivered something to make the managers' decision alot tougher! Although I am not expecting an instant and permanent return to a 442 formation based on 20 mins of one game. Keep producing BP and you time will come! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 Keep producing BP and you time will come! His time has come. I think the being proved wrong McInnes refers to means in the last match. As Palace sat back, there were opportunities galore for Pitman HAD he been on the pitch. Thankfully, on the 70th minute, Derek realised this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 I get the feeling Derek knows a bit more about football management than most of the fools who keep persisting in saying 'play 442'. Does that include fools who think you win more games with the negative 4-5-1? and "Yes" just because i'm not a manager does not mean i know fa about playing formations! McInnes is just learning the arts of managment, and would see a lot of sense on this forum from good posters,then there is yours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 Does that include fools who think you win more games with the negative 4-5-1? and "Yes" just because i'm not a manager does not mean i know fa about playing formations! McInnes is just learning the arts of managment, and would see a lot of sense on this forum from good posters,then there is yours negative 4-5-1? People need to get rid of this idea that 4-5-1 is simply negative. 4-5-1 can be very attacking and can control you a game, 4-4-2 is more direct for sure but like 4-5-1, if you haven't got the players you cant play it successfully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 negative 4-5-1? People need to get rid of this idea that 4-5-1 is simply negative. 4-5-1 can be very attacking and can control you a game, 4-4-2 is more direct for sure but like 4-5-1, if you haven't got the players you cant play it successfully. Unfortunately 2 goals in the 6 games before last Tuesday suggests we don't have the players to play a solo striker game effectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillageRed Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 With this squad 442 equals getting stuffed whether you want Pitman up front or not. Next season with a new a new squad Del will go 442. I remember something that Colin Warnock said when he went to Sheff Utd for the first time, he was criticised for playing direct football, his answer was "when I came here most of the players weren't capable of passing water let alone the football". You have to make do with what you have until you have what you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 negative 4-5-1? People need to get rid of this idea that 4-5-1 is simply negative. 4-5-1 can be very attacking and can control you a game, 4-4-2 is more direct for sure but like 4-5-1, if you haven't got the players you cant play it successfully. If you look at our last few results, it shows we have not done well with 4-5-1 just look at goals scored. With the 2 up front it's down mainly to the 2 wide men to make better use of the ball to feed them. But agree to a point that 4-5-1 if you have the right players is for the away games only, depending what form the other club has at the time. Also if you have a players up front who can score (Wood) and who is scoring goals (Pitman) long may it last. you have to play to your strengths and let the other team do the worrying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Puritan Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 I do not think that Pitman would play well as a solo striker,but i would play him just behind woods, as he he did get 13 goals last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 Given City's precarious league position, McInnes is understandingly afraid of losing which is why he's likes to play 5 across the midfield and one up front. Sure its a negative approach especially at AG but as I say, understandable. The consequences are that it restricts forward play and basically starves the lone striker of service and we all know thats why McInnes brought in Wood in an attempt to hold the ball up more effectively than Maynard did and better than Pitman would. To accomodate Pitman City would have to go 3-5-2. We've seen how hopeless 4-4-2 is so thats a no no. Maybe Pitman could play in 5 across the middle in what would be essentially a 4-4-1-1. Worth a try I reckon. Maybe at Posh this saturday? I won't hold my breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Jordan Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 Having watched Del's interview on Player, I think Brett will still be on the bench tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 negative 4-5-1? People need to get rid of this idea that 4-5-1 is simply negative. 4-5-1 can be very attacking and can control you a game, 4-4-2 is more direct for sure but like 4-5-1, if you haven't got the players you cant play it successfully. it is the way we play it because we have little or no class in central midfield. I know DMC has got big balls, but given that Skuse is injured, Cisse is almost certainly out and the fact that Bolaisie appears to be far from the finished article, I think he would need a wheelbarrow to carry them around to leave out a guy who just scored 2 goals in whatever formation he decides on for the game. Hey but that's what he gets paid for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor10 Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 I will be furious if Brett doesn't start. I think if he starts him though, it will be wide on the left in a 4-5-1 im afraid. As much as I want him to start 2 up top, I can't see him changing from 4-5-1 for the game at posh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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