Esmond Million's Bung Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 I don't know what will happen to be honest, all I can go on is the investment plans the club have put out. For me it isn't about the Premier League or any real success but about the club that all my family have supported surviving for the foreseeable future so that I can one day take my own kids down. We have been playing Russian roulette for a while now, no way would we survive if things stayed as they were. As I say for me personally the change from Ninian park was bigger, the colour can always change back, the badge for any club will always change but I will never get to stand on the terraces at the old girl again. Good points well made, however history and identity are very important as well and should not be given up in pursuit of the Premier League dream, to a) emulate your near neighbours and b) almost certainly eventually take you right back to square one financially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 How long before they want to change the name to Cardiff Malay Dragons, then C. Malay Dragons then just Malay Dragons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluey23 Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 How long before they want to change the name to Cardiff Malay Dragons, then C. Malay Dragons then just Malay Dragons? I don't believe you can change the name in this country after the MK Don's. Can't remember where I saw it but did read something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall King Blox Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 I know this has probably been said before on this subject so apologies beforehand, But.... If the boot was on the other foot what would we do..feel..say ? Just supposing SL shipped out for whatever reason, we would be in deeper dog doo's than you'll find on the village green, What if we were offered a substantial amount of cash to secure our immediate future from some johny foriegner, and in return forsake our traditional club colours, badge etc ? I for one must honestly say i wouldnt be happy with the arrangement but if it meant my clubs survival then so be it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 I don't believe you can change the name in this country after the MK Don's. Can't remember where I saw it but did read something. Cardiff come under FAW, Conwy come under FAW - Conwy have just applied to FAW to change their name: http://www.pitchero.com/clubs/conwyunitedfc/news/club-statement-name-change-575417.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluey23 Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 Cardiff come under FAW, Conwy come under FAW - Conwy have just applied to FAW to change their name: http://www.pitchero....nge-575417.html I think as of last season we are mainly now under the FA, a FAW member is present when dealing with Welsh clubs but we answer to the FA. Think it was after the differences with third party deals between the FA and FAW laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 Forget making songs up for them. Unless they have permission from their owner to take their heads out of his arse most won't hear anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman Block B Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 http://news.uk.msn.com//blog/trending-blogpost.aspx?post=21f4408e-3afa-48a2-b02e-2b6863472ce4&_nwpt=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliftonville Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 I know this has probably been said before on this subject so apologies beforehand, But.... If the boot was on the other foot what would we do..feel..say ? Just supposing SL shipped out for whatever reason, we would be in deeper dog doo's than you'll find on the village green, What if we were offered a substantial amount of cash to secure our immediate future from some johny foriegner, and in return forsake our traditional club colours, badge etc ? I for one must honestly say i wouldnt be happy with the arrangement but if it meant my clubs survival then so be it When the owner changes a clubs traditions like my Mrs changes her shoes whose club is it? What is surviving? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 I suppose if you're Welsh being bossed by a foreign power is standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke_Ciderhead Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 I suppose if you're Welsh being bossed by a foreign power is standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambridge Batch Red Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 This is great news! I hate cardiff. To see them throw their identity, old ground, badge, nickname, shirt colour and bluebird history in the bin is excellent! Change the name now please! Bye bye bluebirds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Controller Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 http://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10335~2798585,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambridge Batch Red Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 What's that written on their new badge?? Fire and Passion??? :laugh: Sorry for the use of but what a joke - it's not even written in their own language! hahahahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BASSO Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 if the malaysians end up leaving then they can just go back to blue, somehow i can't see cardiff being that marketable in malaysia and in the end they may end up getting 100m for nothing. however it would probably amuse me more to see them turn into a massive club in malaysia as their welsh fans are continually disregarded by their owners. goes to show that we are businesses first these days ourselves included, the german model is the way forward imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Mosquito Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 Red kit, new badge, rebranded as the Dragons! Very sad, or pretty funny, or a little bit of both? That's the soul ripped out of the Cardiff 'bluebirds'. A first team shirt colour change and a badge change. They've sold their soul to the Malasyian devils for £100 million. Sad for the bluebird tradition of CCFC but red is the shirt colour of their national Welsh football and rugby teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snufflelufagus Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 It does seem odd that their away kit will be blue. Are the owners basically saying blue is not unlucky away from home?. Also the one song they sing will now be dragons, dragons dragoons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Mosquito Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 It does seem odd that their away kit will be blue. Are the owners basically saying blue is not unlucky away from home?. Also the one song they sing will now be dragons, dragons dragoons. I wonder what the Welsh FA will think of one of their club sides almost having the same emblem and shirt colour as the Welsh national side ?????!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snufflelufagus Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 I wonder what the Welsh FA will think of one of their club sides almost having the same emblem and shirt colour as the Welsh national side ?????!!!!! probably s*unk over their cornflakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screech Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 Will they now be known as The Lost Soul Crew or The Sold Out Crew? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Mosquito Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 Will they now be known as The Lost Soul Crew or The Sold Out Crew? I'd go for 'The Sold Out Crew'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 I'd go for 'The Sold Out Crew'. if they sign an ex West Ham striker they can be the John Carew.............................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivs Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 Yep, there is a big split. I think most surveys indicated that around 80% were in favour IF it meant the investment, stadium improvements etc etc. I guarantee that the 20% opposed will fall to around 10% (disproportionately the more vocal fans) but that is still some 2,000-2,500 match going fans. I think some kind of 'AFC Cardiff' is inevitable. The tricky bit is that the would likely legally need to be in the Welsh league, which is in opposition to the history of Cardiff City (we fought the Welsh league in the 1990s) Personally, as a pragmatist, I'll support the changes if it gets us into the premier league, but on principle, I'll also support a breakaway club..which would be fun..A nice little St Pauli style club in Cardiff would be cool. Aside from anything else, I know we are all rivals and all, but no fans really want to turn red, it's only the economic benefits that are influencing it. As a general rule I think this change is wrong. Don't believe that the Premiershit is the holy land that BBC and Sky make it out to be. You seem to be against this move but accepting it as the price to pay to get to the promised land. What, I wonder, would you find unacceptable? I'm like you in that I don't really care about the club colours (we played in blue in our recent FA Cup final for example). My line would be blue-and-white quarters on that front. I don't particularly have any fondness for "Robins". Our emblem could be a dragon. I don't really care. I think the two things that would be unacceptable to me would be a renamed club such as "Bristol Unicorns" and moving the stadium out of Bristol. Just imagine if we re-located over the bridge for tax purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall King Blox Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 and i thought this was a forum for discusion, debate , analysis , and like minded humor, over and above the call of duty,....without racism, welshism, and kincardiffism, oh how wrong i was x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 and i thought this was a forum for discusion, debate , analysis , and like minded humor, over and above the call of duty,....without racism, welshism, and kincardiffism, oh how wrong i was x You thought wrong What is like minded humor anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall King Blox Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 You thought wrong What is like minded humor anyway? you just took the first steps...Enjoy obtw, just add a letter of your choice, padantic **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 you just took the first steps...Enjoy I hope not, I always fall flat on my face, I inherited clumsiness from my mother! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall King Blox Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 I hope not, I always fall flat on my face, I inherited clumsiness from my mother! No rant intended..take care Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 No rant intended..take care Hmm 4 letter word. Is it hand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderHider Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 wow, thats the 2nd BBC link i had to check for being fake, Muhaha., is it real? FIRE AND PASSION!!! :rofl2br: :rofl2br: MMMMMMMMmm creative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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