Hargreaves Lansdown

[Bryans Left Peg]

Ps I heart Steve Lansdown

[chipdawg]

You can't stop boom and bust and anyone that tells you differently is a moron, it's a simple economic cycle and the bust is a very important part to clear non productive parts of the econemy.

4 million on the dole and morgatage rates of 15% are very bad stats but labour didn't fix this they hid it by creating government jobs and giving people jobs that are not really needed, 15% rates is what the Torres gave us and what labour gave us was massively inflated house prices so that everyone under the age of 35 has got a whole lifetime of debt repayment way above earning multiples of the past if there "lucky" enough to be able to actually get a morgatatge.

Everything that was British was sold off because it was closing us a fortune and due to unions was massively inefficient.

They did spend a lot more on that election than any other knowing what would happen.

If the choice is having millions on the dole or so many government non jobs and a reliance on wealth circulation rather than creation I would go for having people on the dole.

All of this from someone who hates the Torries, it's just that I hate labour more.

We can agree that SL is very good for our football club.

I absolutely agree with your first paragraph, but Labour didn't 'hide' anything. Tony Blair, derided on the left for being too right wing, simply enacted a basic principal of British socialism; that people would be taxed relatively heavily but that the state would provide all the basic things they require. He chose to do that through creating public services and obviously that means jobs. It's a deeply flawed doctrine but a valid one. The problem with all the Tory governments from Thatcher onwards is that they want the private sector to provide these services and will set lower tax so people can pay for it themselves. However, they've never really managed the low tax. So they sold off public services to finance it, but that resulted in more expensive public transport, energy, etc, and actually made it more difficult to achieve their original aim. Again, the doctrine was valid but it has been (and continues to be) poorly executed

Not saying either is better or worse, but neither has been a roaring success. Labour have been tainted by Brown, but I think the Tories will end up being equally tainted by George Osborne's seemingly ideological pursuit of public sector cuts despite 2 years of it having absolutely no positive effect on the economy

[Portland Bill]

You can't stop boom and bust and anyone that tells you differently is a moron, it's a simple economic cycle and the bust is a very important part to clear non productive parts of the econemy.

4 million on the dole and morgatage rates of 15% are very bad stats but labour didn't fix this they hid it by creating government jobs and giving people jobs that are not really needed, 15% rates is what the Torres gave us and what labour gave us was massively inflated house prices so that everyone under the age of 35 has got a whole lifetime of debt repayment way above earning multiples of the past if there "lucky" enough to be able to actually get a morgatatge.

Everything that was British was sold off because it was closing us a fortune and due to unions was massively inefficient.

They did spend a lot more on that election than any other knowing what would happen.

If the choice is having millions on the dole or so many government non jobs and a reliance on wealth circulation rather than creation I would go for having people on the dole.

All of this from someone who hates the Torries, it's just that I hate labour more.

We can agree that SL is very good for our football club.

Without really wanting to carry on a political debate I feel I must point out that the inflated housing prices didn't start with Labour.

The Tory Goverment of the 80's were the culprits.

Thatchers decision to sell off council houses and not build anymore started it all.

I bought a flat in 89 for 45k due to inflated prices at the time, a year later it was worth 22k .

People were getting repossed by the tens of thousands.

House prices then became inflated again under the Tories,all due to lack of housing. There policies at the time meant,then like now,there was no building work going on.

Cameron and Osborne have been walking down the same path as Thatcher,it didn't work then either!

[Whale Eye Beef Hooked]

WOW.... some of the comments on here are bizzare ! I cant understand why SL has come in for any stick.... This typifies what is wrong with this country , some people expect to be bailed out and dont apreciate when they are getting the finer things in life. We are watching good players playing championship football at reasonable prices. The only reason this is the case is because of Steve Lansdown bailing us out. Yes it is his choice but he is a fan and he would rather watch us at this level and he can afford to do so. What would happen if he pulled out ? 1. we would do a portsmouth or 2 we would have to live within our means so we would be playing league 1 football with players such as David Clarkson instead of Sam Baldock....

I know what i would prefer and no i aint going to lick anyones ass but i certainly do appreciate it and if i met him i would thank him.

[Portland Bill]

WOW.... some of the comments on here are bizzare ! I cant understand why SL has come in for any stick.... This typifies what is wrong with this country , some people expect to be bailed out and dont apreciate when they are getting the finer things in life. We are watching good players playing championship football at reasonable prices. The only reason this is the case is because of Steve Lansdown bailing us out. Yes it is his choice but he is a fan and he would rather watch us at this level and he can afford to do so. What would happen if he pulled out ? 1. we would do a portsmouth or 2 we would have to live within our means so we would be playing league 1 football with players such as David Clarkson instead of Sam Baldock....

I know what i would prefer and no i aint going to lick anyones ass but i certainly do appreciate it and if i met him i would thank him.

Totally agree,If it wasn't for SL I don't know where we would be.

The signing of good championship players over the last few years is all down to him.

He has spent millions on players that without him there's no way we could afford.

If AV does eventually get built he will then take us to the next level, I'm convinced about that,I can only say a big thanks to the bloke.

[Pezo]

Without really wanting to carry on a political debate I feel I must point out that the inflated housing prices didn't start with Labour.

The Tory Goverment of the 80's were the culprits.

Thatchers decision to sell off council houses and not build anymore started it all.

I bought a flat in 89 for 45k due to inflated prices at the time, a year later it was worth 22k .

People were getting repossed by the tens of thousands.

House prices then became inflated again under the Tories,all due to lack of housing. There policies at the time meant,then like now,there was no building work going on.

Cameron and Osborne have been walking down the same path as Thatcher,it didn't work then either!

Sorry but supply and demand doesn't apply in the housing sector, people pay what they can "afford" so everything is the top end of what it can possibly be, if individuals are not buying then investors are buying to rent. The ONLY thing that matters is availability and amount of debt a bank is willing to let you have, as we have a debt based money system and Labour decided that with a growing economy we could print 12% of the money supply every year and pump it into the economy through the banks all of the money ended up going to assets that were perceived to be paying for themselves ..... houses. Now we don't have a growing economy so we cant print that money (bar QE which is another government scam), the banks don't have the money so cant lend it and surprise surprise no one can buy a house at the value people think there houses were worth and have borrowed against the equity (got to love mortgage equity withdrawal, makes debt owners (not homeowners as if you have a mortgage the bank owns the house) rich for a year and the banks rich for ever).

High house prices are terrible for the economy in the same way as high food and high petrol prices. These are things that everyone needs yet the majority cannot now afford due to government intervention simply because god forbid anyone ever lose anything.

[havanatopia]

Actually, Anguilla introduced income tax in 2011 because it was developing a significant deficit. Ok, it's only 3% but it still exists. It is massively in recession and nearly a quarter of the population lives below the poverty line. It's also not a fair comparison between a country like Estonia with a population of 1.3million and Anguilla with a population which is about 1% of that number. When considering public services, much of the cost is in the infrastructure and 'set up'; this will be similar for any modern economy with a population over a certain threshold, eg setting up a taxation system, creating a law and order framework, and so in that respect, Estonia's base costs will be comparable with any small to medium sizes westernised country. It shouldn't be forgotten that Anguilla's economy is largely based on helping people from other countries to avoid paying their taxes too and in that respect they don't even have their economy. Their largest export is rum and even that distillery is US-owned. Anguilla is kind of an interesting exercise in micro-capitalism, in the same way that the Israeli kibbutz system gives a fair indication that Marxism works on a small scale (and why your home Cuba is probably the most succesful communist state). So basically, it's grossly unfair and misleading to compare the taxation regimes (or any aspect) of a tiny Caribbean island and a small European country

Ps I heart Steve Lansdown

There are a few inaccuracies in your post.

The 3% tax to which you refer is not actually an income tax albeit it has the same effect. It is an 'interim levy' so you may consider it to be temporary although we all know what happened to that idea in the UK all those years ago. I do not consider this levy to be in the same tax raising league as usual income taxes where, usually, it is far higher. Further note that in virtually all other tax raising areas there is no tax in Anguilla. The largest being a property tax levied each year.

The largest foreign currency earner for the island is not rum, Pirate Rum is a tiny warehouse type establishment that may now be in the distillery business but the ingredients come largely from outside; it is essentially a bottling plant; I know I have seen it. Anguilla derives its largest foreign reserves through tourism, financial services and remittances.

Anguilla was never a slave colony as a result of which whomever, effectively, ran away from St. Kitts and landed on the piece of scrub 'colonised' it. Through the years those few families such as the Richardson's, Gumbs, Webster's became large land owners. The majority of Anguillian's are related to a few such families and all are land owners. The level of poverty on the island, therefore, is officially one of the lowest in the hemisphere and certainly people are far far better off than the average Cuban. In recent times a lot of Dominicans and a few Haitians have come to the island claiming they are the children of migrant Anguillian cane cutters who went to Hispaniola decades ago. This group of people have undoubtedly led to an increase in the level of poverty although it is not always fully recognised.

The point about using Anguilla as a low tax jurisdiction may not be the best of examples but i think you get my point in that just because a country has a small population it does not mean it has to heavily tax its people. Perhaps I used an example that over elaborated what should, to most, be the 'bleedin' obvious!

[Pezo]

I absolutely agree with your first paragraph, but Labour didn't 'hide' anything. Tony Blair, derided on the left for being too right wing, simply enacted a basic principal of British socialism; that people would be taxed relatively heavily but that the state would provide all the basic things they require. He chose to do that through creating public services and obviously that means jobs. It's a deeply flawed doctrine but a valid one. The problem with all the Tory governments from Thatcher onwards is that they want the private sector to provide these services and will set lower tax so people can pay for it themselves. However, they've never really managed the low tax. So they sold off public services to finance it, but that resulted in more expensive public transport, energy, etc, and actually made it more difficult to achieve their original aim. Again, the doctrine was valid but it has been (and continues to be) poorly executed

Not saying either is better or worse, but neither has been a roaring success. Labour have been tainted by Brown, but I think the Tories will end up being equally tainted by George Osborne's seemingly ideological pursuit of public sector cuts despite 2 years of it having absolutely no positive effect on the economy

Poor execution in government is something we are all dealing with now, I completely agree with everything you have written - basically there equally as bad a each other. As they are so bad I would prefer they just stay out of the way and stop interfering some people want more intervention, usually people with a vested interest.

[chipdawg]

Sorry but supply and demand doesn't apply in the housing sector, people pay what they can "afford" so everything is the top end of what it can possibly be, if individuals are not buying then investors are buying to rent. The ONLY thing that matters is availability and amount of debt a bank is willing to let you have, as we have a debt based money system and Labour decided that with a growing economy we could print 12% of the money supply every year and pump it into the economy through the banks all of the money ended up going to assets that were perceived to be paying for themselves ..... houses. Now we don't have a growing economy so we cant print that money (bar QE which is another government scam), the banks don't have the money so cant lend it and surprise surprise no one can buy a house at the value people think there houses were worth and have borrowed against the equity (got to love mortgage equity withdrawal, makes debt owners (not homeowners as if you have a mortgage the bank owns the house) rich for a year and the banks rich for ever).

High house prices are terrible for the economy in the same way as high food and high petrol prices. These are things that everyone needs yet the majority cannot now afford due to government intervention simply because god forbid anyone ever lose anything.

Of course housing is a supply and demand Market; the reason the housing bubble existed in the first place is because there were more buyers than sellers. It's also why the Federation of House builders are so keen on liberalised planning laws- they can build expensive houses in areas where people have money and still appear to meet government targets

[chipdawg]

There are a few inaccuracies in your post.

The 3% tax to which you refer is not actually an income tax albeit it has the same effect. It is an 'interim levy' so you may consider it to be temporary although we all know what happened to that idea in the UK all those years ago. I do not consider this levy to be in the same tax raising league as usual income taxes where, usually, it is far higher. Further note that in virtually all other tax raising areas there is no tax in Anguilla. The largest being a property tax levied each year.

The largest foreign currency earner for the island is not rum, Pirate Rum is a tiny warehouse type establishment that may now be in the distillery business but the ingredients come largely from outside; it is essentially a bottling plant; I know I have seen it. Anguilla derives its largest foreign reserves through tourism, financial services and remittances.

Anguilla was never a slave colony as a result of which whomever, effectively, ran away from St. Kitts and landed on the piece of scrub 'colonised' it. Through the years those few families such as the Richardson's, Gumbs, Webster's became large land owners. The majority of Anguillian's are related to a few such families and all are land owners. The level of poverty on the island, therefore, is officially one of the lowest in the hemisphere and certainly people are far far better off than the average Cuban. In recent times a lot of Dominicans and a few Haitians have come to the island claiming they are the children of migrant Anguillian cane cutters who went to Hispaniola decades ago. This group of people have undoubtedly led to an increase in the level of poverty although it is not always fully recognised.

The point about using Anguilla as a low tax jurisdiction may not be the best of examples but i think you get my point in that just because a country has a small population it does not mean it has to heavily tax its people. Perhaps I used an example that over elaborated what should, to most, be the 'bleedin' obvious!

Well we can argue about what you call it, but the effect is still the same!

I apologise on the rum thing- I got my facts confused and it appears that rum is the largest export. It is fairly obvious in retrospect that tourism and banking would be the largest currency earners, though neither are exactly growth industries in the present climate. The facts and figures I presented are accurate though, at least according to the CIA. Economic growth was at -8.5% in 2011 and 23% of the population live below the poverty line. I do believe you on the immigrants causing this though that is an issue that every nation on earth is having to deal with in one form or another. Google the CIA world fact book for Anguilla. Actually, Cuba might not be the place to do that!!!

To be fair, I do agree that there are more progressive ways to tax citizens than the UK model, but I do believe that we should pay tax and that the government should provide services to it's population. A property tax such as the one you describe in Anguilla would be an extension of the 'tax on consumption' I quite like, though we did that in the UK in the early 1800s, based on the number of windows people had. The populace bricked up their windows and lived in darkness rather than pay it!

[Pezo]

Of course housing is a supply and demand Market; the reason the housing bubble existed in the first place is because there were more buyers than sellers. It's also why the Federation of House builders are so keen on liberalised planning laws- they can build expensive houses in areas where people have money and still appear to meet government targets

Not at all - If people cant take on the debt to buy a house then they cant buy one unless prices fall to a level the banks will lend at!

If the Bank says I can have 20k then my budget is 20k if the bank says I can have 200k then my budget is 200k if they say I cant have anything then my budget is what ever's in my pocket.

Over the last 5 years house prices have fallen but there are still the same number potential buyers (people haven't just vanished) - im one of them, but the bank (rightly so) wont lend me money on an asset that's depreciating that they might lose money on.

There are enough houses in this country - there are 1/2 a million unoccupied homes if there was an under supply then there would be no homes unoccupied.

[Portland Bill]

Interesting comment on radio 5 yesterday,there is planning permission for 400 thousand houses to be built in Britain currently.

But a lot of house builders are holding off building at the moment.

[Barrs Court Red]

Yeah and they'll blame s106 agreements.

[chipdawg]

Not at all - If people cant take on the debt to buy a house then they cant buy one unless prices fall to a level the banks will lend at!

If the Bank says I can have 20k then my budget is 20k if the bank says I can have 200k then my budget is 200k if they say I cant have anything then my budget is what ever's in my pocket.

Over the last 5 years house prices have fallen but there are still the same number potential buyers (people haven't just vanished) - im one of them, but the bank (rightly so) wont lend me money on an asset that's depreciating that they might lose money on.

There are enough houses in this country - there are 1/2 a million unoccupied homes if there was an under supply then there would be no homes unoccupied.

Oh yes, that's definitely a modern-day problem, but it's a problem that's only affected the housing Market in the last few years because this version of a recession very much has it's roots in 'bad' mortgages. House prices still haven't come down as much as they should have because no one is building houses

We also have to remember that we are one of very few countries in the world that put so much stock in investments in 'bricks and mortar'. This is very much a British problem

[chipdawg]

Yeah and they'll blame s106 agreements.

There was some developer on the radio yesterday calling S106 agreements a 'stealth tax'. I'm not sure how any right-minded person can complain about getting a developer to pay for the installation of a pedestrian crossing between their new development of family homes and te local school...

[Barrs Court Red]

There was some developer on the radio yesterday calling S106 agreements a 'stealth tax'. I'm not sure how any right-minded person can complain about getting a developer to pay for the installation of a pedestrian crossing between their new development of family homes and te local school...

I don't disagree, developers need to fund the infrastructure. Take The shopping complex at Longweel Green. Asda have been made to put in an extra lane at the roundabout due to the carnage of traffic at peak times - It's made life much easier trying to get to Barrs Court, as before we'd get caught up in the Asda traffic.

[Pezo]

Interesting comment on radio 5 yesterday,there is planning permission for 400 thousand houses to be built in Britain currently.

But a lot of house builders are holding off building at the moment.

There not really home builders they are land banks with a side line in home building. This is why the government have relaxed the planning laws so the green belt can be bought up to replace the land that they are going to lose by building on land they already own.

[downendcity]

Without really wanting to carry on a political debate I feel I must point out that the inflated housing prices didn't start with Labour.

The Tory Goverment of the 80's were the culprits.

Thatchers decision to sell off council houses and not build anymore started it all.

I bought a flat in 89 for 45k due to inflated prices at the time, a year later it was worth 22k .

People were getting repossed by the tens of thousands.

House prices then became inflated again under the Tories,all due to lack of housing. There policies at the time meant,then like now,there was no building work going on.

Cameron and Osborne have been walking down the same path as Thatcher,it didn't work then either!

There were 2 primary causes for the housing bubble bursting in 1989.

Firstly, it is easy to forget that we used to have tax relief on mortgages back then - tax relief was available on the first £30,000 of a mortgage. Crucially an unmarried couple carried both their individual allowances so had tax relief on the first £60,000 of the mortgage. In the budget of 1988 the chancellor announced that joint tax relief would end, but he he announced the deadline would be later that year ( end of August I think).

The majority of couples affected were prospective first time buyers so they piled in to the market as quickly as possible to complete before the deadline. With such massive demand at the bottom of the market the inevitable result was rising prices throughout the market. Once the tax relief deadline was reached the market almost died, as the demand at the bottom of the market had been almost exhausted.

The double whammy was that infaltion had been growing through that year but the chancellor had held off from increasing the bank rate ( at the time the normal way to deal with inflation). I think we got into 1989 before the pressure became too much and had to be addressed so interest rates had to increase. Not only did they increase but they increased quckly and by a big amount. Bearing in mind mortgage rates were around 12% ( off the top of my head) the increases quickly took that up to around 15%.

First time buyers who would nortmally have been looking to buy that year had jumped the gun in 1988 to take advantage of the joint tax relief deadline so there was little demand at the bottom of the market. The high mortgage rates put off many people who would have otherwise been looking to move so there was virtually nmo demand and this lack of demand meant that prices had to fall back. The catch 2 sitution was that people who found they could not afford the higher level of mortgage payments ( no fixed rates back then) couldn't sell to down size because they found themsleves with negative equity.

Increasing arrears led to increasing repossesions and the lack of demand in the market and more and more propery coming onto he market by way of possesson sales only accelerated the fall in house prices.

The subsequent rise in house prces from the mid 90's prices wasn't down to Tory policies as such. As the economy improved and inflation was brought under control, interest rates gradually reduced. The combination of more affordable rates and lower house prices led to a natural increase in demand and with increasing demand we saw prices gradually increasing.

I've been in the mortgage industry since the mid 70s , and I think the rise in house prices during the last decade was greaer than it was under any Tory government. The Labour governments policies re the regulation of the financial services industry and inability to reign in profligate lending by banks and mortgage lenders has had, and will have a more damaging and long lasting impact on the UK housing market than did the Thatcher policy re right to buy sales of council housing, but that's jus my opinion.

[Chivs]

I've heard that Lee Johnson's grasp of basic economic principles is somewhat weak. I'm not saying I blame him but.....

[CiderHider]

Wow, he doesn't give a shit does he, I love his blatant honesty because its so true. Labour have truly destroyed this country, packing the public sector with misfits and reprobates whos greatest skill is how to milk their position of free-bees and do as little work as possible, they are completely untouchable, they ensure they are.

2 guysI knew who worked at a semi senior level within BCC were gonna blow the whistle on a couple of their bosses and how they spend money, it was just shameful, the backhanders and blatant corruption that went on was actually criminal.

One of them bottled it and panicked, made us promise not to do it, even though we had set up a meeting with the editor of the EP.

Labour need bringing to account over their run in office, I'm not sure how they did things was correct, or legal. Why all that spending on creating jobs in the public sector to make the stats look good for the papers? God, we can never allow a situation where these few crazy guys totally destroy our country when in office, how are they accountable?

I know he's tared all public sector working with the same brush, that's why the media are on it, but its the hard working people in the council who may suffer, while the parasites do all they can to secure their position, you may well be out as a result.

Government is paralysed to do anything with this coalition, what a joke country we are, its hopeless we are buggered and we no longer have colonies to rely on, after all what we had we are reduced to a few banks on a cramped Island being legally invaded by, Polish, Kurds, Portuguese, Spanish, Russians because its the human right...Thanks Tony, you utter utter ****.

The problem is we now need to get in a more right wing goverment to deal with the problem, that sucks but wtf can we do? We need to get out of the EU quickly, or this country will disappear quicker than Atlantis.

[havanatopia]

Wow, he doesn't give a shit does he, I love his blatant honesty because its so true. Labour have truly destroyed this country, packing the public sector with misfits and reprobates whos greatest skill is how to milk their position of free-bees and do as little work as possible, they are completely untouchable, they ensure they are.

2 guysI knew who worked at a semi senior level within BCC were gonna blow the whistle on a couple of their bosses and how they spend money, it was just shameful, the backhanders and blatant corruption that went on was actually criminal.

One of them bottled it and panicked, made us promise not to do it, even though we had set up a meeting with the editor of the EP.

Labour need bringing to account over their run in office, I'm not sure how they did things was correct, or legal. Why all that spending on creating jobs in the public sector to make the stats look good for the papers? God, we can never allow these few crazy guys totally destroy our country.

I know he's tared all public sector working with the same brush, that's why the media are on it, but its the hard working people in the council who may suffer, while the parasites do all they can to secure their position, you may well be out as a result.

Perhaps any incoming council head should be politely asked to watch the Derek Hatton Video Nasty; regardless of their political persuasion and let us not forget once upon a time local councils were supposed to be apolitical.

[havanatopia]

There was some developer on the radio yesterday calling S106 agreements a 'stealth tax'. I'm not sure how any right-minded person can complain about getting a developer to pay for the installation of a pedestrian crossing between their new development of family homes and te local school...

I spoke to my local UK council about a year ago about this 106 agreement and was told that it was not entirely out of the question for them to 'ask for a contribution' to the coffers even for a single family dwelling infil. i hope that has since changed. Sounded like a wee back hander at the time I must confess!!!

[havanatopia]

Well we can argue about what you call it, but the effect is still the same!

I apologise on the rum thing- I got my facts confused and it appears that rum is the largest export. It is fairly obvious in retrospect that tourism and banking would be the largest currency earners, though neither are exactly growth industries in the present climate. The facts and figures I presented are accurate though, at least according to the CIA. Economic growth was at -8.5% in 2011 and 23% of the population live below the poverty line. I do believe you on the immigrants causing this though that is an issue that every nation on earth is having to deal with in one form or another. Google the CIA world fact book for Anguilla. Actually, Cuba might not be the place to do that!!!

To be fair, I do agree that there are more progressive ways to tax citizens than the UK model, but I do believe that we should pay tax and that the government should provide services to it's population. A property tax such as the one you describe in Anguilla would be an extension of the 'tax on consumption' I quite like, though we did that in the UK in the early 1800s, based on the number of windows people had. The populace bricked up their windows and lived in darkness rather than pay it!

Chippers, you sound a pretty well rounded and informed individual.

I think hydroponic lettuces might be the largest producer of goods, by value, on the island but most of their production goes to the local hotels. As for the local rum.. have you ever tried it? premium price without the premium taste. Sorry Anguilla, nice try but you must try harder before you get close to a Matusalem vintage, Babancourt 14 yr old or a Brugal Aged.

I am not surprised by their deficit; the Chief Minister is an ex Slough Shop Steward with a penchant for speeding down the highway at will and wagging his finger disapprovingly at the colonial power. I believe its on record that the British Govt has said to Hubert Mugabe Hughes that if he wants to go it alone then call a referendum. I believe he has since gone silent on the subject. He will soon be out of office anyway the incompetent fool.

[NOTR]

Wow, he doesn't give a shit does he, I love his blatant honesty because its so true. Labour have truly destroyed this country, packing the public sector with misfits and reprobates whos greatest skill is how to milk their position of free-bees and do as little work as possible, they are completely untouchable, they ensure they are.

2 guysI knew who worked at a semi senior level within BCC were gonna blow the whistle on a couple of their bosses and how they spend money, it was just shameful, the backhanders and blatant corruption that went on was actually criminal.

One of them bottled it and panicked, made us promise not to do it, even though we had set up a meeting with the editor of the EP.

Labour need bringing to account over their run in office, I'm not sure how they did things was correct, or legal. Why all that spending on creating jobs in the public sector to make the stats look good for the papers? God, we can never allow a situation where these few crazy guys totally destroy our country when in office, how are they accountable?

I know he's tared all public sector working with the same brush, that's why the media are on it, but its the hard working people in the council who may suffer, while the parasites do all they can to secure their position, you may well be out as a result.

Government is paralysed to do anything with this coalition, what a joke country we are, its hopeless we are buggered and we no longer have colonies to rely on, after all what we had we are reduced to a few banks on a cramped Island being legally invaded by, Polish, Kurds, Portuguese, Spanish, Russians because its the human right...Thanks Tony, you utter utter ****.

The problem is we now need to get in a more right wing goverment to deal with the problem, that sucks but wtf can we do? We need to get out of the EU quickly, or this country will disappear quicker than Atlantis.

Invaded by mostly EU eastern european workers,who eaxactly took us into the EU in the first place,OH thats right the tories.

[havanatopia]

Invaded by mostly EU eastern european workers,who eaxactly took us into the EU in the first place,OH thats right the tories.

No they took us into the EEC or Common Market. I believe it was the last Labour govt who joined us, by the hip, to a judicial union and half way to a political union which then changed its name to EU... by signing away our ability to pass a vast swathe of laws and handing Brussels the task of over-riding us. However, we should never have joined I agree with that much. £60 million a day it costs us in net outflows.

[Pezo]

Wow, he doesn't give a shit does he, I love his blatant honesty because its so true. Labour have truly destroyed this country, packing the public sector with misfits and reprobates whos greatest skill is how to milk their position of free-bees and do as little work as possible, they are completely untouchable, they ensure they are.

2 guysI knew who worked at a semi senior level within BCC were gonna blow the whistle on a couple of their bosses and how they spend money, it was just shameful, the backhanders and blatant corruption that went on was actually criminal.

One of them bottled it and panicked, made us promise not to do it, even though we had set up a meeting with the editor of the EP.

Labour need bringing to account over their run in office, I'm not sure how they did things was correct, or legal. Why all that spending on creating jobs in the public sector to make the stats look good for the papers? God, we can never allow a situation where these few crazy guys totally destroy our country when in office, how are they accountable?

I know he's tared all public sector working with the same brush, that's why the media are on it, but its the hard working people in the council who may suffer, while the parasites do all they can to secure their position, you may well be out as a result.

Government is paralysed to do anything with this coalition, what a joke country we are, its hopeless we are buggered and we no longer have colonies to rely on, after all what we had we are reduced to a few banks on a cramped Island being legally invaded by, Polish, Kurds, Portuguese, Spanish, Russians because its the human right...Thanks Tony, you utter utter ****.

The problem is we now need to get in a more right wing goverment to deal with the problem, that sucks but wtf can we do? We need to get out of the EU quickly, or this country will disappear quicker than Atlantis.

The problem is this kind of coruption is everywhere. I know someone that works for HMRC chasing big companies for debt, she can work for 6 months on a single case building evedance to be told by her boss to not worry about that one anymore, she asks why and just gets told its non of her business. It's obvious to her that someone further up the chain knows the head at the company and is taking the back hander and just passing the info down the chain not to investigate anymore, she just can't figure out at what level the back hander is being taken. She won't report it as she is only 3 years away from taking her final sallery pension and says its not worth the risk.

All of this as dear Tony starts to take his 70k a year pension for being prime minister (not to take into account he already makes about 2m a year and you know we're all in it together) and expenses are now at the same level they were at the height of the expenses scandle with many mps expensing consumer electronic devices such as iPads that don't work with any government systems as there not secure enough. How is that a government expense? Our CEO (and everyone that's wanted one for work) had to buy her own iPad why do mps always have there face in the troft?

[GodEmperor Palpatine]

But I bet you all cheered when baldock was signed at half time, that we signed a quality left back, that we didn't need to sell Albert...

And brought in Morris, Anderson, heaton, davies......

But we have a season of Championship football to look forward to with the best squad we've had in years ....

All this negativity on this forum is astounding .....

Thats this season... which is great, the negativity to Lansdown is not the financial backing he has given because but the amateurish decisions he has made and has admitted to in the past. Don't you read posts properly?

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Thats this season... which is great, the negativity to Lansdown is not the financial backing he has given because but the amateurish decisions he has made and has admitted to in the past. Don't you read posts properly?

They read what they want to read mate. Not worth explaining a 3rd 4th 5th and 7th time.

[chipdawg]

Chippers, you sound a pretty well rounded and informed individual.

I think hydroponic lettuces might be the largest producer of goods, by value, on the island but most of their production goes to the local hotels. As for the local rum.. have you ever tried it? premium price without the premium taste. Sorry Anguilla, nice try but you must try harder before you get close to a Matusalem vintage, Babancourt 14 yr old or a Brugal Aged.

I am not surprised by their deficit; the Chief Minister is an ex Slough Shop Steward with a penchant for speeding down the highway at will and wagging his finger disapprovingly at the colonial power. I believe its on record that the British Govt has said to Hubert Mugabe Hughes that if he wants to go it alone then call a referendum. I believe he has since gone silent on the subject. He will soon be out of office anyway the incompetent fool.

Sorry fella, I'm more of a whisky man, though I did buy my mate an especial bottle of Ron Zapatta for his 30th a couple of years back which was ver nice!

I think your Anguillan official proves that there are incompetent ******* in every government in every country in the world

[Alberts Dancing Boots]

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