Barrs Court Red Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 http://www.bristol247.com/2012/11/28/ashton-vale-town-green-inquiry-delayed-for-a-year-25016/ What a farce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobby Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 God sake... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 this will be heard before then, it will go to whitehall before then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted November 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 No it wont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 No it wont. its us who are holding it up Barrs Court not the nimbys thats why I think it will go to whitehall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 We're waiting for the TVG legislation to change. Obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City's Defence!! Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 loving this.. The nimby's think they have almost won but i reckon the landowners have got an ace up there sleeve. Patience is a virtue have faith the ground will be built by 2020!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 We want a full blown enquiry the nimbys don't, We won this as its now going to be a full equiry we are also seeking in the High Court to over turn the orignal ruling for the TVG and the split we want the whole area reliesed for devlopment, Its taking longer but the nimbys could lose everything and face rather large legal bill (paid by the bristol Tax Payer) also do the have the resources to fight this in full? we have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilC Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 Agree Monkeh, I think this looks pretty good for us if we are taking it to a "full enquiry". Wonder what our Ace is though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 Agree Monkeh, I think this looks pretty good for us if we are taking it to a "full enquiry". Wonder what our Ace is though? no idea but I bet its pretty convincing and frankly I don't want the club to leak anything on this so they can suprise and blow the nimbys out of the water when the time is right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 ..Or we might be waiting to see if we get relegated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 ..Or we might be waiting to see if we get relegated! money is in a different pot, It wouldn't matter if we were relegated or not, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loderingo Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 Hmm looking at the Defra site it has the following: The new approach will prevent TVG applications when an application for planning permission has been made or granted, and when land has been allocated for development by the local authority. There are already well over 4,000 existing TVGs and they will retain full protection. TVGs can continue to be registered where no development is either proposed or the subject of ongoing community consultation. Under the plans, private landowners who wish to allow some public use of their land will now be able to do so without jeopardising its value or future development potential. Currently, if a landowner does not challenge public use of his or her land for a period of twenty years, any future use for business, farming or development use may be ruled out by a TVG registration. Financial savings from the changes are likely to run to many millions in the short term, and significantly more in the longer term. This includes savings to local authorities, developers and landowners through cuts to legal fees, public enquiry costs and costs resulting from devaluation of land and delays. Longer term financial benefits will arise from increased certainty around how local land will be used, social improvements and economic growth from jobs and development. The reforms to the legislation are expected to come into force by summer 2013. Not sure if the new law would be applied to existing cases already in progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 Hmm looking at the Defra site it has the following: The new approach will prevent TVG applications when an application for planning permission has been made or granted, and when land has been allocated for development by the local authority. There are already well over 4,000 existing TVGs and they will retain full protection. TVGs can continue to be registered where no development is either proposed or the subject of ongoing community consultation. Under the plans, private landowners who wish to allow some public use of their land will now be able to do so without jeopardising its value or future development potential. Currently, if a landowner does not challenge public use of his or her land for a period of twenty years, any future use for business, farming or development use may be ruled out by a TVG registration. Financial savings from the changes are likely to run to many millions in the short term, and significantly more in the longer term. This includes savings to local authorities, developers and landowners through cuts to legal fees, public enquiry costs and costs resulting from devaluation of land and delays. Longer term financial benefits will arise from increased certainty around how local land will be used, social improvements and economic growth from jobs and development. The reforms to the legislation are expected to come into force by summer 2013. Not sure if the new law would be applied to existing cases already in progress. an exsisting TVG isn't in place yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threshersleftboot Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 Over 50 per cent of us wont be around by the time this is resolved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTID GAZZA Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 The world is going to end on december 21st so whats the point :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 This is good news for us surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 Mr D Cameron should still hear from us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted November 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 It would be a start of one of the local MP's raised it at PMQ's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne allisons tongues Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 How does that information go on that site, but nothing official is announced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 How does that information go on that site, but nothing official is announced. Nimby's mouth piece and as they are involved in the process that would be my guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del ete Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 I said this would be the outcome yesterday, more money to be made by a new enquiry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 It won't "go to whitehall", there's no process for that to happen. It seems deliberate on our part, which is positive. I suspect that the impending legislation as mentioned might be a reason for that. It would be interesting to know whether the inquiry will use the new legislation. I suspect it will have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 I said this would be the outcome yesterday, more money to be made by a new enquiry. its the result we as the land owner wanted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del ete Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 its the result we as the land owner wanted Not disagreeing that, I said yesterday that Ross Crail would probably favour a new review, I mean why wouldnt she? Another pay-day! plus as we no nothing is ever sorted out quickly in this country. Looks positive, I assume the reason behind wanting a delay must be the proposed change in legislation. I do not see the usual snide comments from Nimbys on Bristol 247, which can only be good news. They are usually crying victory at every given opportunity, so maybe they have realised the game could be up who knows. Wonder if they decide to compromise after all as this would be the most sensible option for everyone with an ounce of sense. I have the feeling that those behind the TVG application couldnt honestly give two hoots about the land. They simply like to gain self importance by causing such disputes, so I suspect they would prefer to drag things on for years and lose, rather than except a very fair compromise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 At this rate the new stadium will be built just in time for me to get my OAP discount on a ST there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 I just hope Crispin is still around when the stadium is completed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCAGFC Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 We want a full blown enquiry the nimbys don't, We won this as its now going to be a full equiry we are also seeking in the High Court to over turn the orignal ruling for the TVG and the split we want the whole area reliesed for devlopment, Its taking longer but the nimbys could lose everything and face rather large legal bill (paid by the bristol Tax Payer) also do the have the resources to fight this in full? we have Our record at High Court isn't good, the NIMBYs seem to have friends in VERY high places. I mean we get given a judge in our case that actually made the precident to replace an applicant......why were we given that particular judge?. Whitehall did get involed in Falmer but it took a long time and a lot of lobbying from everyone connect with BHA. Our only hope is that the new legislation can be used at the new enquiry. BCAGFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 Our record at High Court isn't good, the NIMBYs seem to have friends in VERY high places. I mean we get given a judge in our case that actually made the precident to replace an applicant......why were we given that particular judge?. Whitehall did get involed in Falmer but it took a long time and a lot of lobbying from everyone connect with BHA. Our only hope is that the new legislation can be used at the new enquiry. BCAGFC thats because there was precidence for him to grant that, the council cocked up through no fault of the clubs and it wasn't us fighting that case it was the council that have a poor history, This is now us fighting with Lansdown millions behind it, not the council and the tax payers money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardiffBlackLabel Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 Do yourselves a favour and renovate Ashton Gate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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