LondonBristolian Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 If McInnes does I go, I really really really hope we don't fall for the proven Championship manager fallacy. Anyone who's proved they can succeed in the Championship has, by logical extension, a job at the Championship or above. Why on Earth do we want someone who's proved they can fail elsewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Curbs maybe hoddle ? I think both have been away to long. But you never know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Curbs maybe hoddle ? if Curbuishley comes then I'll dance up and down with joy whilst eating my favourite hat. Hoddle's record in the Championship speaks for itself. In fact it actively shrieks "find a better candidate". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrumpty Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Would love Hoddle, but we need to be realistic! Still think Dennis Wise would kick ass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Would love Hoddle, but we need to be realistic! Still think Dennis Wise would kick ass! Realistic in terms of accepting that Hoddle would do a rubbish job? I agree if so. Anecdote and rumour suggests he struggles to adapt to working with players less technically gifted than himself. Not sure how that'd work in our squad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Butterfield Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Bring back Benny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerrygowsboots Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 I can't imagine Steve Lansdown rushing in to any decision ... think the last three managers: Steve Coppell - Big name, great reputation = disaster Keith Millen - Inside club appointment = disaster Derek Mcinnes - Promising and sought after young manager = disaster Add to that an expensively assembled, highly paid and incredibly under performing squad and I would be thinking very carefully about any new appt. Basically I do not think there is anyway that he is going to fund a complete rebuild of this squad ( which is needed) so anyone coming in would have to work with what they've got plus one or two possibly.... that shortens the queue. Of all the mentioned candidates Paulo Di Canio would be the best in my opinion but why would he want to leave a Swindon team that could well change places with us? I think given all this and the fact that we are only two points from safety means there is a very good chance he will stick with McIness and he will still be manager in May whatever league we end up in for next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briefcase Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Bring back Benny Alan Dicks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Humble Realist Posted December 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 The other factor is the upcoming games against our 'rivals'. We don't want a caretaker manager for those games ...can we appoint a new manager quickly ...or shud we just stick with del? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderArmyy Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Would people be happy with Danny Wilson back as manager? I think it would be an improvement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Maesknoll Red Posted December 1, 2012 Admin Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Would people be happy with Danny Wilson back as manager? I think it would be an improvement No, lets not go back, although I say that with one exception, Jordan. If the board were to sack McInnes, then perhaps its time to splash out and tempt a proven Manager, not necessarily one out of work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerrygowsboots Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 No, lets not go back, although I say that with one exception, Jordan. If the board were to sack McInnes, then perhaps its time to splash out and tempt a proven Manager, not necessarily one out of work. I agree but with a million pound striker sat on the bench and a £600 000 striker on 'loan' at Bournemouth will SL feel like splashing out - whatever the consequences of not doing that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Albert Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 No, lets not go back, although I say that with one exception, Jordan. If the board were to sack McInnes, then perhaps its time to splash out and tempt a proven Manager, not necessarily one out of work. I said exactly that earlier in this thread! Surely the cheap option would be appointing a manager out of work... and why are they out of work? Because, 9 out of 10 have failed elsewhere and got the boot... Therefore the right option would be to appoint a proven manager, in work! Being able to do so, a completely different ball game! Anyway, we have DM atm, and whilst he is still in charge -whatever SL's decision is- I will be backing him whilst he's here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Reliant Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 If we're talking about managers like Alan Curbishley who've been out of the loop for a while, how about David Brent? He did a fantastic job at Wernham Hogg Paper Company and I can't see him producing a bigger bollox than what I had to sit through today... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete1975Legend Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 We had a good manager once, called Gary Johnson, but the fans hounded him out for only getting us to mid-table. Some fans deserve everything we are getting at the moment. This post is spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippy273 Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 If I'm honest, I'm tired of us shopping at Lidl, even if the club is in debt it is important we keep championship football in Bristol. Attracting a proven big named manager will only attract more big names and so on. If we need want to put ourselves on the map again, lets start shopping for better quality! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 Gary Johnson, everything gone to shit since he walked out the door NO. Part of the reason we are in this mess is that he didn't invest in youth and renew the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 Sacking Derek is not the answer as I can't see who could replace him and improve things. He is having to work with amateurs who no nothing about running a football club. And although I don't rate some of his signings, he's had his hands tied from day one and was always the cheap option that was expected to produce miracles out of nothing. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 When Del came in people on here were saying we should have gone for Dave Jones cos he's proven at this level.....well look where Sheff Weds are?? I really wanted it to work for Del. Not sure who would be instantly better which is what people demand, but if Del does go at least someone like Billy Davies would show plenty of passion on the touch line and he has won promotion from this div before. But there's just no guarantees! I wouldn't get too down on Dave Jones just yet, his record is still far better at Wednesday than Mcinnes' at Bristol City and the teams they have lost to have mostly been to top half teams at times that their opposition have been in form. Their next game is Cardiff and then it's us and in all honesty I can see them beating us meaning we'd still be in a worse position than his team and we'd have a manager with a poorer record too. We are obviously not ambitious enough to make sacking McInnes actually pay in the long run, sacking him and replacing him with some of the candidates mentioned here will only serve to keep the rot going longer - and keep those actually responsible safe behind the scenes of yet another sacrificial lamb. If money were to be spent then yeah, sack McInnes. But it isn't, not in any really meaningful amount so we are gonna have to take our medicine for having such a poorly run club at levels above the Manager. And no, this is not a snipe at Lansdown but those faceless senior members whose faces we NEVER see This is what worries me, the issue isn't with the manager or the players, it's with the club and the club has a good record of sacrificing managers whilst sparing those who are a much bigger issue and lie deeper in the roots of the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevecity86 Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 Without wishing to start an argument: With no resource and no support he nearly kept Blackburn in the prem. look where Blackburn have gone since he went. Look at the way they played against us (at our best) earlier in the season. Anyway, he wouldn't be everyone's cup of tea but we are all entitled to a view. excellent post could be a lot worse than steve keen out there Interesting to read people seeing Kean as a realistic possibility despite the title of the thread clearly being a joke. I personally think that the bloke has a lot to prove, and I think it was a great show of strength how his head never dropped when he had most the people in the stadium saying 'Kean out!' and was actually relieved of his duties at Blackburn when they were just hitting their stride, (Blackburn were in 3rd place when he was sacked and are now 12th).When they played us in September I thought they played tidy stuff. I obviously back Del while he is still here but were he to leave I would prefer Kean over the usual Davies, Jewell, Burley etc who have all failed at this level wheras you could say that Kean was succeeding at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 NO. Part of the reason we are in this mess is that he didn't invest in youth and renew the squad. Exactly. Johnson did some great things for us but we were a team in decline when he left and many of the problems we've got now have their roots in him spending high wages on players that didn't work out whilst not managing to build an effective youth set-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candygram for mongo Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 Karl Robinson of Milton Keynes Dons. Young manager, knows his way around League 1. If they don't go up this season and we go down, make the move in the summer. Karl Robinson was sat in the directors box yesterday, I'm not reading anything into it but I did wonder why he was there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippy273 Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 Interesting to read people seeing Kean as a realistic possibility despite the title of the thread clearly being a joke. I personally think that the bloke has a lot to prove, and I think it was a great show of strength how his head never dropped when he had most the people in the stadium saying 'Kean out!' and was actually relieved of his duties at Blackburn when they were just hitting their stride, (Blackburn were in 3rd place when he was sacked and are now 12th).When they played us in September I thought they played tidy stuff. I obviously back Del while he is still here but were he to leave I would prefer Kean over the usual Davies, Jewell, Burley etc who have all failed at this level wheras you could say that Kean was succeeding at this level. It is hard for any manager to take a club back up again after having just been relegated (unless your Darren Ferguson) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 It is hard for any manager to take a club back up again after having just been relegated (unless your Darren Ferguson) That's true but he did turn a team that had just finished tenth into the Premier league into relegation candidates and take them down the following season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcbrowners Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 This post is spot on.............seriously NO. Part of the reason we are in this mess is that he didn't invest in youth and renew the squad. this post is on the money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderArmyy Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 Karl Robinson was sat in the directors box yesterday, I'm not reading anything into it but I did wonder why he was there. Erm... why?? Bit weird if it's true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoyalRed Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 Gary Johnson for me. He is not only a manager that kicks arse but he also loves this club and would do anything for it. Exactly what we need right now in this dire situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderArmyy Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 Gary Johnson for me. He is not only a manager that kicks arse but he also loves this club and would do anything for it. Exactly what we need right now in this dire situation Rather have Danny Wilson back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 Gary Johnson for me. He is not only a manager that kicks arse but he also loves this club and would do anything for it. Exactly what we DONT need right now in this dire situation There, fixed that for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete1975Legend Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 I laugh at city fans who always say GJ didn't develop the youth. If they are good enough they will come through, this invest in youth is just rubbish, you don't get nowhere with youth in football today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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