Spike Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Ok so it isn't BUT how would these forums feel about this design? I tried to create a modern take of our "traditional kit" with the old school robin badge Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Craven arms Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Anything's better that the star trek one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollywhyte Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Quite like that, reminds me of benfica a bit or real madrids away strip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUTOR Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Better than the one in the background that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East end Forever Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 very good i like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippy273 Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Quite like that, reminds me of benfica a bit or real madrids away strip Reminds me of the Man United style they had a few seasons back. Nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sglosbcfc Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Very nice, I would buy that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Ok so it isn't BUT how would these forums feel about this design? I tried to create a modern take of our "traditional kit" with the old school robin badge Thoughts? That's much better already! It already lifts from the doom and gloom like the one in the background. Well done sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i hate you butler Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Ok so it isn't BUT how would these forums feel about this design?I tried to create a modern take of our "traditional kit" with the old school robin badge Thoughts?is that kalifa cisse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 well whatever the new one looks like,it will be 100% improvement on this years.i still want to know why the black had to be on it? anyways,i also think they should launch the new kit now and give Sod a fresh start etc,or play the rest of the season out in the away kit.its far better imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 is that kalifa cisse?It's Adomah :laugh:I didn't do his face, that's all FIFA's doing haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Squirrel Kingdom Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Almost exactly the same as Nottingham Forest's kit from the late 1970s, which isn't a bad thing. I think the reason we had to have black is because that's one of the basic designs they were offered a number of clubs - Hull have the same thing in gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i hate you butler Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 It's Adomah :laugh: I didn't do his face, that's all FIFA's doing haha if that's albert you need specsavers or cut down on the trumpet polishing :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Next years has been decided so the next one we could get a say in would be in time for the world cup - so I say we kill 2 birds with one stone and have a white kit with a modern take of a red St.George design - would probably sale a lot more kits as well http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/interaway.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ricardo 'Livi' Red Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Assuming its still Adidas, it will be a standard template.. But agree, red and white is a certainty.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 **** the Robin badge already. Give up on pushing it. It won't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambridge Batch Red Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 **** the rugby club crest. We need a change, bring back the robin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 if that's albert you need specsavers or cut down on the trumpet polishing :laugh:Hha like I said, it is him but I didn't do his face, that's his default face in FIFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City fan 1982 Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 bring back the robin,,,,,,,,,, shame it has been decided on , i went on torquays website and their fans could choose from 4 designs . could anyone enlighten me as to who chooses the kit, etc what say the club might have and as to how about we get a shirt sponsor ? any merit in a 2 year home kit , alternating the away kit.....just a thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roe Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 I like that a lot. Good work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City1984 Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 **** the Robin badge already. Give up on pushing it. It won't happen. BRING BACK THE ROBIN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Am I the only one who likes this years shirt? Everyone here in Bournemouth always comment on how nice it is!!!! P.s Bring back the robin along with our identity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City1984 Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Say it again badge, BRING BACK THE ROBIN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenman15 Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 I actually like this season's design to be honest. I do feel for the club though, it seems like when we keep the same colour kit, everyone says 'we should change it as it is boring' then complain when its changed. As for the badge, I do tend to prefer the current one rather then the robin. In my opinion, the robin seems amateurish compared to the current one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City fan 1982 Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 the coat of arms is boring, it could be any team !! forza robin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Mat Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Ok so it isn't BUT how would these forums feel about this design? I tried to create a modern take of our "traditional kit" with the old school robin badge Thoughts? I like it - good work. Very modern, but in keeping with our best looking kits throughout history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warwickshire Red Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 **** the Robin badge already. Give up on pushing it. It won't happen. I thought you'd be all for it....."Robin The Badge Wins" Bring back the robin! Like the design too including the traditional white shorts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 hmm piccie did not work in last post - But for 2014 - I want red and white kit, that I can also wear for the world cup... so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 Am I the only one who likes this years shirt? Everyone here in Bournemouth always comment on how nice it is!!!! P.s Bring back the robin along with our identity I like it a lot but the general opinion is that it's "not us" which in a sense is a fair point, it stands out from our tradition.the coat of arms is boring, it could be any team !! forza robinIn all honesty I think the robin looks unprofessional and I'd actually debate that the Robin is more like a badge used by any team. If you look at how many clubs have the nickname the Robins, Charlton, Cheltenham and Swindon as well as ourselves, you could argue that it would actually give us a more shared identity.With the name Bristol City it does make sense to have the Bristol coat of arms as:1) We're Bristol City, the city's coat of arms suits our name perfectly and is our original badge.2) Rovers do not use the coat of arms meaning we're not sharing our badge or identity with anyone else.3) The Robin looks good due to nostalgia but ask someone from outside the club and the Robin comes across as very amatuer. If someone was told "we're called the Robins and we play in Bristol" then you could imagine they'd be able to mock up a badge pretty quickly similar or the same as the old Robin badge. Making a coat of arms however has a lot more skill and professional edge to it.Either way I guess I'd be happy but it depends on how you see the club really, if you want the Robin then you probably care more about the club being community based and close nit but if you want the coat of arms you most likely prefer the idea of the modern football club who're a bit more cut throat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambridge Batch Red Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Either way I guess I'd be happy but it depends on how you see the club really, if you want the Robin then you probably care more about the club being community based and close nit but if you want the coat of arms you most likely prefer the idea of the modern football club who're a bit more cut throat. you've undone your hard work with these comments. Millwall introduced a crest - it was crap - they brought back their lion. It looks good. Liverpool introduced a crest - again poor, this year they reintroduced the liverbird - its quality; simple and effective. Every tom dick and harry have got a crest, nobody knows what's on them, some old shit, couple of horses, a pig, dancing lion or frog with a trumpet stuck up its arse **** knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bcfcsouth Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 I like it a lot but the general opinion is that it's "not us" which in a sense is a fair point, it stands out from our tradition. In all honesty I think the robin looks unprofessional and I'd actually debate that the Robin is more like a badge used by any team. If you look at how many clubs have the nickname the Robins, Charlton, Cheltenham and Swindon as well as ourselves, you could argue that it would actually give us a more shared identity. With the name Bristol City it does make sense to have the Bristol coat of arms as: 1) We're Bristol City, the city's coat of arms suits our name perfectly and is our original badge. 2) Rovers do not use the coat of arms meaning we're not sharing our badge or identity with anyone else. 3) The Robin looks good due to nostalgia but ask someone from outside the club and the Robin comes across as very amatuer. If someone was told "we're called the Robins and we play in Bristol" then you could imagine they'd be able to mock up a badge pretty quickly similar or the same as the old Robin badge. Making a coat of arms however has a lot more skill and professional edge to it. Either way I guess I'd be happy but it depends on how you see the club really, if you want the Robin then you probably care more about the club being community based and close nit but if you want the coat of arms you most likely prefer the idea of the modern football club who're a bit more cut throat. Rovers have used the crest in their past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Harry BCFC Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 ngl thats sick i want that now!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northampton Red Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Top work Spike, would love that as the new kit and badge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiz Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 I like the new design but colud we have a red stripe in the white v neck like the 75,76. Promotion winning shirt. Why not have the crest and the robin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I like the new design but colud we have a red stripe in the white v neck like the 75,76. Promotion winning shirt. Why not have the crest and the robin. Yeah a few people have said this and there is a version that has the Crest, Robin, England flag, and Club/est on it...... which you would think everyone could get behind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 the coat of arms is boring, it could be any team !! forza robin The crest could possibly be mistaken for one other team - Bristol Rovers. The robin could possibly be mistaken for five - Swindon, Cheltenham, Charlton, Altrincham and Wrexham. The Robin isn't just OUR identity. It's a lot more generic than people think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider head Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Ok so it isn't BUT how would these forums feel about this design? I tried to create a modern take of our "traditional kit" with the old school robin badge Thoughts? Very good, i like it, Gets my vote Bring back the robin http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/bristol-city-we-want-our-robin-back http://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?/topic/150780-christmas-poll-bring-back-the-robin/?hl=%2Brobin+%2Bbadge#entry1679761 http://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?/topic/90205-city-badge/page-2?hl=%2Brobin+%2Bbadge#entry1569670 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Love the look of that kit! With regards to the badge, just a few points to add to thers above; Chalrton's nickname is the Addicks not the Robins We don't represent the whole of Bristol, tradtionally we are a South Bristol / Somerset club The Robin design could easily be updated to be more modern / menacing. The badge wechad with the Robin, a football and the Suspension Bridge was iconic, unique and instantly recognisable as being Bristol City. Crests look like the badges of a million clubs they are boring, stuffy and unimaginative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keepers Ball Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Stick red shorts on it and it would be ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herman Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Yeah a few people have said this and there is a version that has the Crest, Robin, England flag, and Club/est on it...... which you would think everyone could get behind not sure if its physically possible to produce something with that much detail in such a small size Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Cyril Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Ask any neutral and they might guess any one of twelve english clubs for that kit. In some ways its nice to have a unique or distinctive feature to your kit especially as red and white is the most common kit combination going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Knowle Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I like it a lot but the general opinion is that it's "not us" which in a sense is a fair point, it stands out from our tradition. In all honesty I think the robin looks unprofessional and I'd actually debate that the Robin is more like a badge used by any team. If you look at how many clubs have the nickname the Robins, Charlton, Cheltenham and Swindon as well as ourselves, you could argue that it would actually give us a more shared identity. With the name Bristol City it does make sense to have the Bristol coat of arms as: 1) We're Bristol City, the city's coat of arms suits our name perfectly and is our original badge. 2) Rovers do not use the coat of arms meaning we're not sharing our badge or identity with anyone else. 3) The Robin looks good due to nostalgia but ask someone from outside the club and the Robin comes across as very amatuer. If someone was told "we're called the Robins and we play in Bristol" then you could imagine they'd be able to mock up a badge pretty quickly similar or the same as the old Robin badge. Making a coat of arms however has a lot more skill and professional edge to it. Either way I guess I'd be happy but it depends on how you see the club really, if you want the Robin then you probably care more about the club being community based and close nit but if you want the coat of arms you most likely prefer the idea of the modern football club who're a bit more cut throat. 1/ Bristol city is west country club that once called itself thepride of the west? 2/ they did. 3/ asked anybody who knows anything about football and they know city are the robins. the robin is community based fans have painted it and kids draw it. Kit is big improvemnt on this seasons mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Love the look of that kit! With regards to the badge, just a few points to add to thers above; Chalrton's nickname is the Addicks not the Robins They have also been called the "Red Robins" in the past. http://cafc.digital-ink.co.uk/CharltonSongs.ink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UREDS_91 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Didn't Dave L say not too long ago that next seasons kit had already been chosen (no black in it) but in the future the club would allow fan input? I may just be going mad though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiz Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I say go with addidas logo right chest coat of arms crest left and ernie entre but lower and st george cross on ghe back. Exactly the same as the image but with red stripe in the white v neck. Gert mint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambridge Batch Red Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 The robin could possibly be mistaken for five - Swindon, Cheltenham, Charlton, Altrincham and Wrexham. Your list is even shorter now as Wrexham's nickname is the dragons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Your list is even shorter now as Wrexham's nickname is the dragons. http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/football-manager-2010-fm-stories/49336-turning-dragons-back-into-robins-wrexham-fc.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tom from sunny side Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Love the look of that kit! With regards to the badge, just a few points to add to thers above; Chalrton's nickname is the Addicks not the Robins We don't represent the whole of Bristol, tradtionally we are a South Bristol / Somerset club The Robin design could easily be updated to be more modern / menacing. The badge wechad with the Robin, a football and the Suspension Bridge was iconic, unique and instantly recognisable as being Bristol City. Crests look like the badges of a million clubs they are boring, stuffy and unimaginative Nice kit. I like the idea of bringing back the Robin but can't think of anything sillier than making it look "menacing". Bring it back but don't go changing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambridge Batch Red Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/football-manager-2010-fm-stories/49336-turning-dragons-back-into-robins-wrexham-fc.html Not sure what point you are trying to make with that, It's pretty much obvious they were called the robins, but like Charlton, they are no longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Not sure what point you are trying to make with that, It's pretty much obvious they were called the robins, but like Charlton, they are no longer. You mean like how we used to have a Robin on the shirt, but now we have the crest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I like it a lot but the general opinion is that it's "not us" which in a sense is a fair point, it stands out from our tradition. In all honesty I think the robin looks unprofessional and I'd actually debate that the Robin is more like a badge used by any team. If you look at how many clubs have the nickname the Robins, Charlton, Cheltenham and Swindon as well as ourselves, you could argue that it would actually give us a more shared identity. With the name Bristol City it does make sense to have the Bristol coat of arms as: 1) We're Bristol City, the city's coat of arms suits our name perfectly and is our original badge. 2) Rovers do not use the coat of arms meaning we're not sharing our badge or identity with anyone else. 3) The Robin looks good due to nostalgia but ask someone from outside the club and the Robin comes across as very amatuer. If someone was told "we're called the Robins and we play in Bristol" then you could imagine they'd be able to mock up a badge pretty quickly similar or the same as the old Robin badge. Making a coat of arms however has a lot more skill and professional edge to it. Either way I guess I'd be happy but it depends on how you see the club really, if you want the Robin then you probably care more about the club being community based and close nit but if you want the coat of arms you most likely prefer the idea of the modern football club who're a bit more cut throat. Define professional? My Mrs works in commercials & marketing. She and her team create advertising campaigns - brands. She also supports City. Her view is that the crest is unnecesary, and does not feel strategic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider head Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Bristol City is a west country club. People travel the four corners of the west country (and some beyond) to the South Bristol church which is Ashton gate and not connecting with Bristol of eastville, horefield (pirate territory) where the Bristol badge is connected as much as the whole of Bristol? We need our own ID and emblem, BRISTOL CITY PRIDE OFTHE WEST The robin would best represent this than a crest that has and is used by most organisations in Bristol, we are not Bristol rovers and don't represent that part of the city where they play like our current crest represents there, we need our own logo, the robin on a ball with the bridge in the back ground Football = what we do Robin = westcountry & cider (involving wassail and we sing enough cider songs along with a cider sponsor) Clifton bridge = south Bristol Together = the perfect badge Robin = westcountry & cider connection, wassail It was also believed, especially in the West Country, that the spirits of the trees were incarnated in robins and other small birds. Young lads representing these birds climbed the apple trees and cried 'Tit-tit, I want more to eat.' A piece of cake, cheese or bread was either handed up to him or dipped in cider and placed in the forks of the tree branches 'for the robins'. There are three forms of Christmas/New Year celebration involving wassail, a beverage originally made of mulled ale, curdled cream, roasted apples, nuts, eggs and spices. The blowing of horns heralds the Wassailing of the Apple Trees celebration, as a beverage, usually cider, is poured on the roots of the finest tree and a wassail cake placed in the branches as an offering to the tree spirits and elementals who ensure fruitful harvest. Then the beating of kettles and firing of guns loaded with powder are used to drive away the witches and ghosts believed to reside in the crown of the apple tree. This is followed by a wassailing song sung to the tree (or the hive in the tree, in the case of bees!) as in -- Wassail, wassail all round the town; The zider-cup's white and the zider's brown; Our zider is made vrom good apple trees, And now my vine vellows we'll drink if you please. http://www.timetravel-britain.com/articles/christmas/wassail.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambridge Batch Red Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 You mean like how we used to have a Robin on the shirt, but now we have the crest? Funny that, we're still called the robins and not the crests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 You mean like how we used to have a Robin on the shirt, but now we have the crest? Funny that, we're still called the robins and not the crests. The crest is the Bristol City coat of arms - and it may come as a shock to you, but we are still known as Bristol City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambridge Batch Red Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 The crest is the Bristol City coat of arms - and it may come as a shock to you, but we are still known as Bristol City. Bristol City FC nickname the coat of arms - sounds like a shit pub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Bristol City FC nickname the coat of arms - sounds like a shit pub. Real Madrid mainly have their initials on their badge, doesn't make their nickname "The Initials". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Bristol City FC nickname the coat of arms - sounds like a shit pub. Since when has a nickname for something been the same as the actual name ? You need a dozen more pairs of hands the way your clutching at straws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted January 17, 2013 Author Share Posted January 17, 2013 Define professional? My Mrs works in commercials & marketing. She and her team create advertising campaigns - brands. She also supports City. Her view is that the crest is unnecessary, and does not feel strategic.Sorry but the Mrs and marketing point just feels like that kid in the school playground who says he knows best about football because his dad works for a professional football club. I'm not looking for an argument but the Robin is a part of the past, as is the purple and lime, built on Nostalgia and whilst we could go back to the Robin and put on the purple and lime it'll be a nice little boost but it'll fade fast.Take your favourite childhood toy, video game, clothes, whatever you like and then go buy it off ebay and see if any of your love for it surpasses nostalgia... it won't. I recently bought some old retro video games and whilst I love owning them again and I have played on them a few times I would never say they're better than a modern version of the same game and that's because I've moved on.The Robin is more strategic because it can be used in more ways, much like the American hockey teams use names like The Pittsburgh Penguins because a Penguin can be used in so many ways, whereas a crest cannot. The marketing value of the Robin may be a lot higher but it's not true to the clubs roots as the crest is and the argument about Rovers using it is so silly and childish when you consider it. We're both Bristol based clubs, so yes they've used it but that's no different to any of the teams mentioned who have used the Robin of which there are far more. Bristol Rovers use the Pirate now and in all honesty I cringe when I see it because it doesn't look like a football badge. I suppose I'm quite traditional in our badge and whilst I wouldn't kick up a fuss if we went back to the Robin I would look at it and feel a little bit like it looks cheap.If people want to embrace the Robins nickname then do it, you don't need the badge on the kit really do you? Sing when the red red robin comes bob bob bobbing along, wear t-shirts with the robin on it, make new chants on how we're the Robins, what's stopping you?I put the Robin on the kit to see how people would react and mainly to see what I think of it myself and in all honesty I think the kit looks better with the coat of arms on it. I think if people want the Robin so much the club should release a retro style shirt, plain red, with "nibor", the Robin crest and see how it sells. If it sells well then maybe the Robin could be re-introduced, surely that would be a much better marketing scheme than just forcing it on people who don't necessarily want it. I'd much rather see the club test the waters first before re-branding, which is essentially what many of our fans give Cardiff crap for doing.Funny that, we're still called the robins and not the crests.Sorry but are you serious?The coat of arms represents the City of Bristol... see where I am going with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambridge Batch Red Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Since when has a nickname for something been the same as the actual name ? You need a dozen more pairs of hands the way your clutching at straws. Shouldn't our badge relate to our football team and our nickname rather than borrow the council's/rugby club's crest? That is my point, it's quite simple. We are "The Robins" whether you like it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiz Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Have both I Want the Robin back but also would be happy with creat to be ALSO on the shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiz Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Pleade make it a v neck though as round necks do not suit neddy no necks like me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambridge Batch Red Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Sorry but are you serious? The coat of arms represents the City of Bristol... see where I am going with this? of course I'm not being bloody serious We're not some parochial little Bristol club - we're a regional super power BCFC = PRIDE OF THE WEST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZepperin Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Wassail, wassail all round the town; The zider-cup's white and the zider's brown; Our zider is made vrom good apple trees, And now my vine vellows we'll drink if you please. http://www.timetravel-britain.com/articles/christmas/wassail.shtml If the badge is to align with the current branding paradigm, a prawn sandwich would be far more appropriate, surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Shouldn't our badge relate to our football team and our nickname rather than borrow the council's/rugby club's crest? That is my point, it's quite simple. We are "The Robins" whether you like it or not. It's not the councils or the Rugby clubs crest it's the City of Bristol's crest, it belongs to Bristol. Some Clubs and Organisations proud of the city they come from use the City's coat of arms to show their home/origin. The nickname of something is the unofficial name of something - so you may be Donald on your birth certificate, but Don to your friends - you maybe British in nationality but a Brit, limey, Pomme - you don't change the birth certificates, name of the country or it's flag to represent nicknames. I have no problem with the Robins being the clubs nickname so the "rather you like it or not" comment is pointless, because I don't mind it at all - but only as a nickname - not the clubs main identity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambridge Batch Red Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I have no problem with the Robins being the clubs nickname so the "rather you like it or not" comment is pointless, because I don't mind it at all - but only as a nickname - not the clubs main identity. I think we can safely establish that Bristol City Football Club are from the city and county of Bristol. There is big clue in the name somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Sorry but the Mrs and marketing point just feels like that kid in the school playground who says he knows best about football because his dad works for a professional football club. I'm not looking for an argument but the Robin is a part of the past, as is the purple and lime, built on Nostalgia and whilst we could go back to the Robin and put on the purple and lime it'll be a nice little boost but it'll fade fast. Take your favourite childhood toy, video game, clothes, whatever you like and then go buy it off ebay and see if any of your love for it surpasses nostalgia... it won't. I recently bought some old retro video games and whilst I love owning them again and I have played on them a few times I would never say they're better than a modern version of the same game and that's because I've moved on. The Robin is more strategic because it can be used in more ways, much like the American hockey teams use names like The Pittsburgh Penguins because a Penguin can be used in so many ways, whereas a crest cannot. The marketing value of the Robin may be a lot higher but it's not true to the clubs roots as the crest is and the argument about Rovers using it is so silly and childish when you consider it. We're both Bristol based clubs, so yes they've used it but that's no different to any of the teams mentioned who have used the Robin of which there are far more. Bristol Rovers use the Pirate now and in all honesty I cringe when I see it because it doesn't look like a football badge. I suppose I'm quite traditional in our badge and whilst I wouldn't kick up a fuss if we went back to the Robin I would look at it and feel a little bit like it looks cheap. If people want to embrace the Robins nickname then do it, you don't need the badge on the kit really do you? Sing when the red red robin comes bob bob bobbing along, wear t-shirts with the robin on it, make new chants on how we're the Robins, what's stopping you? I put the Robin on the kit to see how people would react and mainly to see what I think of it myself and in all honesty I think the kit looks better with the coat of arms on it. I think if people want the Robin so much the club should release a retro style shirt, plain red, with "nibor", the Robin crest and see how it sells. If it sells well then maybe the Robin could be re-introduced, surely that would be a much better marketing scheme than just forcing it on people who don't necessarily want it. I'd much rather see the club test the waters first before re-branding, which is essentially what many of our fans give Cardiff crap for doing. Sorry but are you serious? The coat of arms represents the City of Bristol... see where I am going with this? My school playground was more interested in top trumps than marketing strategy. I used a marketing professionals viewpoint regarding use of the crest as not being strategic. You appear now to be agreeing with that view in part e.g increase in profile/reach and increased sales = The marketing value of the Robin may be a lot higher. You have also highlighted the inflexibilty of the crest as a design. In comparison the benefits of using the crest financial, or ortherwise? They don't spring to mind instantly. The marketing value of the Robin may be a lot higher but it's not true to the clubs roots ...The Robin was used on the clubs shirt sixty years ago, the nickname existing probably since the nineteen forties? That is part of the club's roots, unless you hark back to the Babes. Your last point is interesting. The real old un's may correct me here, but during the seventies a competition was held to design a new badge. The crest was replaced by the winner [75-76], that winner was the Robin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northampton Red Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 you've undone your hard work with these comments. Millwall introduced a crest - it was crap - they brought back their lion. It looks good. Liverpool introduced a crest - again poor, this year they reintroduced the liverbird - its quality; simple and effective. Every tom dick and harry have got a crest, nobody knows what's on them, some old shit, couple of horses, a pig, dancing lion or frog with a trumpet stuck up its arse **** knows. Surprised no one else noticed that last line. Best thing I've read all day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted January 17, 2013 Author Share Posted January 17, 2013 The marketing value of the Robin may be a lot higher but it's not true to the clubs roots ...The Robin was used on the clubs shirt sixty years ago, the nickname existing probably since the nineteen forties? That is part of the club's roots, unless you hark back to the Babes.To me roots are where something starts, I wouldn't call the base of a tree the roots although it's important to the tree it's still not the roots.When we became Bristol City we wore the coat of arms, that's our roots. The Robin was introduced in 1949 and replaced only two years later. The next time the Robin was used was when we finished in the runners-up position of the old Division 2 and we got promotion to the old First Division. The thing is it sounds like a good time but in the following years we fought relegation and then when we were relegated we went do to Division 4 and bankruptcy! All in all the Robin isn't really associated with great times is it, maybe a few but the worst run of the clubs history and bankruptcy came with that Robin on our shirt too.The coat of arms is what the club started with and it's the right crest for a club named Bristol City, it would be different if we were Bristol United, or Bristol Athletic but we're not, we're Bristol City and so the City's coat of arms make sense. Your last point is interesting. The real old un's may correct me here, but during the seventies a competition was held to design a new badge. The crest was replaced by the winner [75-76], that winner was the Robin.And your point is? That a panel from the seventies who decided that the robin design was better than the clubs original know best? Sorry but if that panel included the people running our club then they were also the same people who gave us our darkest days.As I said before, I wouldn't kick up a fuss if the Robin became our badge once again but it doesn't make sense to use it.The coat of arms is the logical choice, the Robin is a nostalgic choice. Next year will be our 20th year since we went back to the coat of arms and although I have some shirts with the Robin on it's the ones with the coat of arms I value the most. you've undone your hard work with these comments. Millwall introduced a crest - it was crap - they brought back their lion. It looks good. Liverpool introduced a crest - again poor, this year they reintroduced the liverbird - its quality; simple and effective. Every tom dick and harry have got a crest, nobody knows what's on them, some old shit, couple of horses, a pig, dancing lion or frog with a trumpet stuck up its arse **** knows.Millwalls original badge was the LionLiverpools original badge was the LiverbirdSo both of those teams you mentioned use their original crest design, ours was the coat of arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiz Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I am sure we had the creat when we got promoted the robin came back for our first year back in thd top flight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiz Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Is there any argument against using both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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