Brizzle Jordan Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 To all those people who say Gerrard is very overrated, Look at that goal. Screamer. Liverpool have been brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUEBRIT66 Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 I didn't say he'd get there, I said he looked forward to it. A lot of people deserve to be seriously surprised on the Other Side Your not wrong sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 Paul Gascoigne was a world class attacking midfielder, end of... Depends on what you call "World Class" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.D Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 Depends on what you call "World Class" One of the best midfielders in the world during his time.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 To all those people who say Gerrard is very overrated, Look at that goal. Screamer. Liverpool have been brilliant. Not as good as Aguero's !! Liverpool have been good today ,they were also good at Arsenal on Wednesday. Just need a defence now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 To all those people who say Gerrard is very overrated, Look at that goal. Screamer. Liverpool have been brilliant. Liverpool have been very good Two great goals Only problem i have with SG is that he gives the ball away to often with Hollywood passes Can get away with that in the prem where your get the ball back fairly soon But in europe or Internationals teams wont give you the ball back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 Not as good as Aguero's !! Liverpool have been good today ,they were also good at Arsenal on Wednesday. Just need a defence now. Need a better keeper for sure. Reina has been very average this season, I'd of liked them to sign Butland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 One of the best midfielders in the world during his time.. Mattaus,Hasler Francescoli Stojkovic Hagi Gullit and Rijkard to name a few all played in 1990 finals Gazza was not in there class Best midfielder England has had in the last 30years is Robson by a mile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 Mattaus,Hasler Francescoli Stojkovic Hagi Gullit and Rijkard to name a few all played in 1990 finals Gazza was not in there class Best midfielder England has had in the last 30years is Robson by a mile Paul Scholes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 Need a better keeper for sure. Reina has been very average this season, I'd of liked them to sign Butland. Reina is much better than Butland Just ask the blue noses what they think of butland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 Reina is much better than Butland Just ask the blue noses what they think of butland Butland will be better than Reina though. Brad Jones is useless as a number 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 Paul Scholes? Good shout Rate him more than gazza but still short of Robbo (imo) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliftonville Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 Like I said he was better than both internationally. But he shone bright briefly for 1 tournament. I would suggest platt and Lineker and even Mark Wright were just as good and just as influential as Gazza in that tournament. Other than italia 90 and the odd game in euro 96 Gazza although talented failed imo to live up to the hype, especially at domestic level I would respectfully suggest Gascoigne excelled at Italia 90. Lineker, Platt, Wright were functional. To follow he had serious injury and the ludicrous reign of Graham Taylor to contend with. No euro 92, no qualification world cup 94 = England half the team without Gascoigne. Euro 96 he performed well above todays Barry's/Gerrards/Milners/Parkers. Two tournaments significant impact. Domestically he made some maybe odd choices, so did Shearer. I would not dismiss what he achieved when fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 Good shout Rate him more than gazza but still short of Robbo (imo) Paul Scholes is definitely the best British midfielder I've seen in my time. Could do everything but tackle, also such a pro off the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 Butland will be better than Reina though. Brad Jones is useless as a number 2. I think Butland is a long way short of Reina Will he be better ?time will tell but i wouldnt put money on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 Liverpool have been very good Two great goals Only problem i have with SG is that he gives the ball away to often with Hollywood passes Can get away with that in the prem where your get the ball back fairly soon But in europe or Internationals teams wont give you the ball back Exactly, that's why he's never been good enough to play abroad, coaches outside of England demand there team keeps the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 Gerrard could play for Real Madrid, he's not incapable of playing short passes if asked by the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Club and Country Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 Sadly having friends like 5 bellies did not help. Jimmy 5 bellies was actually a good mate contrary to belief I know numerous stories off his time at Middlesbrough and they as a club would always turn to jimmy 5 bellies for help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 Gerrard could play for Real Madrid, he's not incapable of playing short passes if asked by the manager. I think anyone could play for RM at the moment, they looked awful last night. Short passes?Why isn't he doing it for his current manager then, What Gerrard did in the week v Arsenal ( I think) was truly embarrassing for an International player. He's a Premier league player,it's a hustle bustle league full of mistakes. As we saw this afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 I think anyone could play for RM at the moment, they looked awful last night. Short passes?Why isn't he doing it for his current manager then, What Gerrard did in the week v Arsenal ( I think) was truly embarrassing for an International player. He's a Premier league player,it's a hustle bustle league full of mistakes. As we saw this afternoon. This i feel is the problem with England Managers seem to pick the best Premier League players and not the best players for International football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 I think anyone could play for RM at the moment, they looked awful last night. Short passes?Why isn't he doing it for his current manager then, What Gerrard did in the week v Arsenal ( I think) was truly embarrassing for an International player. He's a Premier league player,it's a hustle bustle league full of mistakes. As we saw this afternoon. They looked awful because it's clear their care for the league has vanished given they can no longer win it. However the other week they were 5-0 up against Valencia at the Mestalla before half-time. I still think RM will beat Man Utd. Rodgers probably hasn't asked Gerrard to cut out his long range passing as it's one of his best attributes as everyone knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 Rodgers probably hasn't asked Gerrard to cut out his long range passing as it's one of his best attributes as everyone knows. If you actually watch rather than believe the myth, you will see that most don't find there target and gives the ball to the opposition. That's part of the reason why Liverpool are doing nothing once again this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedUn Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 Yes - and the infamous 'dentist's chair' celebration afterwards. Both sides of Gazza seen in one event. Gazza was a troubled individual from the time that one of his close friends was run over and died in his arms when he was a kid. Even when playing football, he wouldn't sleep much, always keeping the lights on. Hyperactive to the point of almost having tourette's - for a while his release was football but now that's gone it's alcohol. Can't help but feeling that, although you can say it's all his fault, Gazza needed help early on in life. The fact that he didn't get it is a tragedy. Have very good memories of him as a footbaler. Really hope the guy find some peace and a way of living, but it's looking bad and you fear the worst. ... the most enlightened and enlightening contribution to this thread, I didn't know about the car accident so that helps me to understand his troubled mind. Great player, great shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 If you actually watch rather than believe the myth, you will see that most don't find there target and gives the ball to the opposition. That's part of the reason why Liverpool are doing nothing once again this season. One question) When do you ever hear former professional players with a degree of understanding for the game such as Gary Neville talk about Gerrard's weak ability to pass? Nobody in football thinks Gerrard has bad passing control. I bet if you asked Xavi or Iniesta they would say they'd love him in their side, they'd also say he's a world class player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 They looked awful because it's clear their care for the league has vanished given they can no longer win it. However the other week they were 5-0 up against Valencia at the Mestalla before half-time. I still think RM will beat Man Utd. Rodgers probably hasn't asked Gerrard to cut out his long range passing as it's one of his best attributes as everyone knows. So, the other week they still cared even though the league had vanished. But this week they don't care! Ok! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 So, the other week they still cared even though the league had vanished. But this week they don't care! Ok! Another reason for their poor performance against Granada was due to the amount of effort they put into the game a few days before against Barcelona. Real Madrid are prioritising the Copa Del Ray and the Champions League so they are very inconsistent in La Liga. Their bench could still give Man Utd a good game in the CL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggythecity Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 poor guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggythecity Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 that was truly awful had to stop watching after 2 mins,never mind the fact he used to be a football legend how could anyone let him perform like that in public,should be ashamed as he certainly didnt know what was going on.Fear its too late but hope somehow he sorts himself out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 One question) When do you ever hear former professional players with a degree of understanding for the game such as Gary Neville talk about Gerrard's weak ability to pass? Nobody in football thinks Gerrard has bad passing control. I bet if you asked Xavi or Iniesta they would say they'd love him in their side, they'd also say he's a world class player. No they wouldn't, the way he plays is alien to the top midfielders in the world. Barcelona keep the ball,Gerrard gives it away regularly. If he was rated highly by the people that count ( managers and coaches) he would have been snapped up by one of the big clubs who win things. Tell me,why haven't Liverpool got anywhere near the Prem league title whilst Gerrard has played for them and why have England been so poor whilst he's played for them. Gary Neville won't say a bad word about any player. Yes he knows the game and speaks well, but he praises every player playing the game. There isn't one pundit out there whose willing to say bad things about current players. What he thinks in private, we aren't privy to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 Another reason for their poor performance against Granada was due to the amount of effort they put into the game a few days before against Barcelona. Real Madrid are prioritising the Copa Del Ray and the Champions League so they are very inconsistent in La Liga. Their bench could still give Man Utd a good game in the CL. Everyone knows they will play well v Man Utd, it's hardly an exclusive from you! But for you to claim that 3 weeks ago they cared, but yesterday they didn't, Is frankly ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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