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[Mr Mosquito]

So, as I thought, in the first case no source whatsoever - and in the second, some slightly deranged random bloke's blog.

The fact is, the BBC - unlike local government, Britain's farmers, certain UK industries - does not derive money from the EU but is financed by the licence fee and by commercial operations (managed largely by BBC Worldwide).

There is no reason why BBC journalists would be more pro-EU or anti-EU than journalists elsewhere, or indeed, the average man-in-the-street.

I've seen the BBC EU lovers in action on BBC Question Time - as have millions of others. Nigel Farage - a quite brilliant public speaker with fervant anti EU views - is often pitted against EU loving Lib-Lab-Con buffoons on Question Time. Nigel Farage is often outnumbered 4 to 1 on BBC Question Time by these EU lovers and interupted and shouted down - bang out of order that the BBC invite him on their flagship programme and surround him with Lib-Lab-Con EU gravy train traitor politicians spouting the same old EU propaganda crap.

[Mr Mosquito]

So, as I thought, in the first case no source whatsoever - and in the second, some slightly deranged random bloke's blog.

The fact is, the BBC - unlike local government, Britain's farmers, certain UK industries - does not derive money from the EU but is financed by the licence fee and by commercial operations (managed largely by BBC Worldwide).

There is no reason why BBC journalists would be more pro-EU or anti-EU than journalists elsewhere, or indeed, the average man-in-the-street.

You'll never see the following on the BBC propaganda newsagency with the BBC's golden boy - Tony Blair - getting totally outclassed ........

[Cambridge Batch Red]

Love the BBC keeps us British. The alternative is total slide towards some american trash fox tv culture.

[Mr Mosquito]

Another example of the BBC's corrupt nature exemplified by 'The Tony Blair Story' on the BBC's website.....

Blair – The Making of a Monster

Tony Blair’s progression from a privileged, Tory leaning, guitar wielding attention seeker into Britain’s most corrupt politician and notorious war criminal is set out in a 2007 article by BBC political reporter Brian Wheeler.

Being a BBC piece, it smoothly glosses over or skips entirely many of Blair’s worst crimes but it is useful in collating much information about Blair’s early years......

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6506365.stm

[Red-Robbo]

Lets just stick to the BBC on this thread, the NHS could have one of its own...

BBC not corrupt? I raise you Jimmy Savile.

Not biased? Lest we forget the Ashtin Vale "hate campaign" story.

So the fact that a paedophile was among the many tens of thousands of people who have at some time worked for or appeared on the BBC makes it a 'corrupt organisation'.

If this is the case, then it's alongside the police, every education department in the country, the Army, Navy, and a thousand other organisations and companies. I expect a paedophile may have - or may still - live in Barrs Court. This doesn't make it a 'corrupt geographical location'.

On your other point, I do not think there was an Ashton Vale hate campaign conducted by BBC Points West. Apart from the fact that the editor of the programme and various other senior staff are city fans, they merely presented protester as well as pro-stadium points of view. You have to admit, it had become a political hot potato before the local BBC picked up the story. You have to be prepared to see people espousing points of view you don't agree with on the news. Clearly some on this board struggle with that.

It seems to me that this debate has nothing to do with 'choice'. It is purely ideological - and driven by the crashing misapprehension that the BBC is some sort of trendy, lefty organisation. Something that would have anyone who has ever worked for it, braying with laughter!

It is of course, a misapprehension fed to the gullible by commercial interests keen on damaging the idea of public interest broadcasting in this country, so they can further their own profits.

You may be interested in some research undertaken about 12 years ago into the voting habits of journalists at various media organisations. It was perhaps of a surprise, to the non media savvy, that The Sun had the highest percentage of Labour voters and the Express the most Conservative. The BBC was somewhere in the middle, slightly to the right of ITN and C4. Another fact uncovered, was that journalists were less likely to vote than members of other professional occupations.

I think the default position - and one I share - is cynicism.

[Red-Robbo]

I've seen the BBC EU lovers in action on BBC Question Time - as have millions of others. Nigel Farage - a quite brilliant public speaker with fervant anti EU views - is often pitted against EU loving Lib-Lab-Con buffoons on Question Time. Nigel Farage is often outnumbered 4 to 1 on BBC Question Time by these EU lovers and interupted and shouted down - bang out of order that the BBC invite him on their flagship programme and surround him with Lib-Lab-Con EU gravy train traitor politicians spouting the same old EU propaganda crap.

So you'd do QT with more Ukip panel members than people from any other party? Do you actually believe in democracy, Gobbers, or - like Stalin - is everyone who disagrees with your POV "a traitor"?

[Fiale]

If you don't want to watch TV then don't have one. You then wont need to pay for a tv license. Using selective truths to strengthen an argument is pointless.

I'm still laughing at this......... oh dear, oh dear........

[Mr Mosquito]

So you'd do QT with more Ukip panel members than people from any other party? Do you actually believe in democracy, Gobbers, or - like Stalin - is everyone who disagrees with your POV "a traitor"?

It doesn't seem fair to me that the BBC surround the likes of Nigel Farage with known EU loving political liars. There are plenty of people that don't belong to UKIP that should be on BBC Question Time to make the programme more balanced with regard to arguing against our membership of the EU. I find the BBC to be totally nauseating with its constant and blatant pro EU propaganda. I also now regard all Lib-Lab-Con politicians as European Union loving traitors. I do believe in democracy and that's why I believe that the Lib-Lab-Con politicians should allow the British people a free and fair referendum on coming out of the European Union project. Let the people decide - are the EU loving politicians afraid that their gravy train will be scuppered?

Anyway, well done to UKIP yesterday for coming second in Eastleigh by election.

[TRL]

It doesn't seem fair to me that the BBC surround the likes of Nigel Farage with known EU loving political liars. There are plenty of people that don't belong to UKIP that should be on BBC Question Time to make the programme more balanced with regard to arguing against our membership of the EU. I find the BBC to be totally nauseating with its constant and blatant pro EU propaganda. I also now regard all Lib-Lab-Con politicians as European Union loving traitors. I do believe in democracy and that's why I believe that the Lib-Lab-Con politicians should allow the British people a free and fair referendum on coming out of the European Union project. Let the people decide - are the EU loving politicians afraid that their gravy train will be scuppered?

Anyway, well done to UKIP yesterday for coming second in Eastleigh by election.

The bbc do tend to surround him with a audience that agrees with him though, and an inept host that farage can destroy at will.

So its not all bad.

[Mr Mosquito]

The bbc do tend to surround him with a audience that agrees with him though, and an inept host that farage can destroy at will.

So its not all bad.

I wonder if Nigel Farage would have won the by election at Eastleigh had he stood as the UKIP candidate? One thing's for sure, he's an absolute legend on YouTube and his fame is spreading internationally and exponentially. He just energizes me with renewed vigour when I hear and see the achive footage of Nigel Farage on YouTube cutting a swathe through all the EU despots. He amazes me and he just seems to have come from nowhere to now be easily this country's best political orator.

[TRL]

I wonder if Nigel Farage would have won the by election at Eastleigh had he stood as the UKIP candidate? One thing's for sure, he's an absolute legend on YouTube and his fame is spreading internationally and exponentially. He just energizes me with renewed vigour when I hear and see the achive footage of Nigel Farage on YouTube cutting a swathe through all the EU despots. He amazes me and he just seems to have come from nowhere to now be easily this country's best political orator.

Got to agree, he certainly stands his ground well, and actually understands what is going on, unlike many others. It seems like a club for back slappers. But someone has opened a window, and let the annoying wasp farage in.

I love watching his speechs on youtube. Just a shame we see little of them on tv, both paid and non paid.

[Mr Mosquito]

Got to agree, he certainly stands his ground well, and actually understands what is going on, unlike many others. It seems like a club for back slappers. But someone has opened a window, and let the annoying wasp farage in.

I love watching his speechs on youtube. Just a shame we see little of them on tv, both paid and non paid.

Nigel Farage seems really well versed in international business and finance and - indeed - you can really tell that he understands what he's talking about. There must also be people at UKIP that are doing some first class research on all the various EU corruptions because Nigel Farage always has plenty of good ammunition in his speeches with which to hit the likes of Herman van Rompuy, Martin Schulz, Catherine Ashton, Barosso et al.

[TRL]

Nigel Farage seems really well versed in international business and finance and - indeed - you can really tell that he understands what he's talking about. There must also be people at UKIP that are doing some first class research on all the various EU corruptions because Nigel Farage always has plenty of good ammunition in his speeches with which to hit the likes of Herman van Rompuy, Martin Schulz, Catherine Ashton, Barosso et al.

Certainly does. Very well informed, whether that is his own knowledge, or if it comes from a party member. To be fair, he seems to have a answer for any question, which suggests he does the digging himself.

It would be good if all politicians took so much interest in important subjects. Most have very little knowledge once you have scratched the surface.

[Mr Mosquito]

Certainly does. Very well informed, whether that is his own knowledge, or if it comes from a party member. To be fair, he seems to have a answer for any question, which suggests he does the digging himself.

It would be good if all politicians took so much interest in important subjects. Most have very little knowledge once you have scratched the surface.

I just looked up Nigel Farage on Wikipedia and he seems to have gained his knowledge of international business and finance from work and not from any university as it seems he's never been to university. In contrast, David Camoron was educated at Eton and at Oxford university - his expensive education was a complete waste of money considering the fact that he comes across as an upper class twit that's completely blank on the major issues such as the EU that afflict this country. Of course, the BBC will continue to big up Camoron, Clegg and Milipede as if they're God's gift to politics.

[Eco]

I just looked up Nigel Farage on Wikipedia and he seems to have gained his knowledge of international business and finance from work and not from any university as it seems he's never been to university. In contrast, David Camoron was educated at Eton and at Oxford university - his expensive education was a complete waste of money considering the fact that he comes across as an upper class twit that's completely blank on the major issues such as the EU that afflict this country. Of course, the BBC will continue to big up Camoron, Clegg and Milipede as if they're God's gift to politics.

He also seems to be a bit of a failure where Westminster is concerned having stood, and been stood up by the voters, seven times, including Eastleigh in 1994.

[Red-Robbo]

I've seen the BBC EU lovers in action on BBC Question Time - as have millions of others. Nigel Farage - a quite brilliant public speaker with fervant anti EU views - is often pitted against EU loving Lib-Lab-Con buffoons on Question Time. Nigel Farage is often outnumbered 4 to 1 on BBC Question Time by these EU lovers and interupted and shouted down - bang out of order that the BBC invite him on their flagship programme and surround him with Lib-Lab-Con EU gravy train traitor politicians spouting the same old EU propaganda crap.

Well that's how QT works. It's an opportunity for the public to question politicians from the coalition parties and from the main opposition. It's not a UKIP recruitment video. If you have any complaints, write to Mentorn, the company that makes it. I do expect, as UKIP's electoral fortunes rise, you'll see more UKIP panel members on the programme, but there's only ever one participant per party. You sound like you'd only want to watch it if it had 4 Nigel Farage's and one other person!!

As you point out, he is quite a skilled debater and I'm sure he's more than happy to hold his own against those of opposing viewpoints.

I reckon you have a bit of a man crush on the thin-lipped commodity broker, Gobbers. R.G and Nige. Sitting in a tree. K.I.S.S.I.N.G

[Mr Mosquito]

Well that's how QT works. It's an opportunity for the public to question politicians from the coalition parties and from the main opposition. It's not a UKIP recruitment video. If you have any complaints, write to Mentorn, the company that makes it. I do expect, as UKIP's electoral fortunes rise, you'll see more UKIP panel members on the programme, but there's only ever one participant per party. You sound like you'd only want to watch it if it had 4 Nigel Farage's and one other person!!

As you point out, he is quite a skilled debater and I'm sure he's more than happy to hold his own against those of opposing viewpoints.

I reckon you have a bit of a man crush on the thin-lipped commodity broker, Gobbers. R.G and Nige. Sitting in a tree. K.I.S.S.I.N.G

That's passing the buck directing complaints to 'Mentorn' when it's the BBC that broadcasts 'BBC Question Time'. I think Nigel Farage is marvellous after seeing him hold his own against the various EU despots in the vipers' nest of the EU parliament as shown only on YouTube and never by the BBC. I've even seen comments from Americans to the videos on YouTube where they'd like him as their President. Apparently, the European Unionists have fined Nigel Farage on many occasions for his truthful and forthright comments on the hopelessly corrupt and criminal led EU project and its despotic unelected leadership.

[Mr Mosquito]

He also seems to be a bit of a failure where Westminster is concerned having stood, and been stood up by the voters, seven times, including Eastleigh in 1994.

Why don't we discuss Lady Catherine Ashton of the British Labour Party? - a total failure with regard to being elected by any popular mandate. Yet she holds a senior position in Europe ???!!! The Labour 'socialist' known by the aristocratic title of 'Lady'. You couldn't make it up, the British Labour Party has been hijacked by pseudo Toffs.

[Red-Robbo]

Why don't we discuss Lady Catherine Ashton of the British Labour Party? - a total failure with regard to being elected by any popular mandate. Yet she holds a senior position in Europe ???!!! The Labour 'socialist' known by the aristocratic title of 'Lady'. You couldn't make it up, the British Labour Party has been hijacked by pseudo Toffs.

Like Farage? Wasn't his dad a stockbroker called Guy Oscar Justus Farage? And didn't Nige go to 'posh' Dulwich College (fees £10,837 per term)?

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[marshy]

Like Farage? Wasn't his dad a stockbroker called Guy Oscar Justus Farage? And didn't Nige go to 'posh' Dulwich College (fees £10,837 per term)?

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Yep, and wasn't Winston Churchill grandson of the 7th Duke of Marlborough and born in Blenheim Palace. Why don't we just stop whining on about people's background and just assess them for what they are ? Without this aristocratic toff we'd no doubt now be living under German rule.....oh, hang on a minute.

[Mr Mosquito]

Like Farage? Wasn't his dad a stockbroker called Guy Oscar Justus Farage? And didn't Nige go to 'posh' Dulwich College (fees £10,837 per term)?

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If I had had the money then I would have sent my sons to Dulwich College knowing the calibre of patriotic individual that that college turns out (e.g. Nigel Farage). After Dulwich College, Nigel Farage didn't need an expensive university education afterwards and that says a lot about the educational standards at Dulwich College.

As a footnote, my great great uncle attended Marlborough College from January 1895 and left July 1901. He went on to complete his education at Trinity Hall Cambridge and became a lawyer in London. After a few years as a lawyer, and now in his mid 30s, patriotic fervour must have overtaken him and he volunteered to serve his country in WW1 and became a 2nd Lt. Royal Fusiliers (City of London) in 1915. He died of his wounds fighting on the Somme on 16th July, 1916. I often think about him because my late father left me documents regarding his civil and military careers.

Marlborough College is now famous for Pippa and Kate Middleton. Pippa Middleton is popular with me because she has a nice backside - no other reason. If you've got the money, send your children to the best school you can afford.

[Red-Robbo]

If I had had the money then I would have sent my sons to Dulwich College knowing the calibre of patriotic individual that that college turns out (e.g. Nigel Farage). After Dulwich College, Nigel Farage didn't need an expensive university education afterwards and that says a lot about the educational standards at Dulwich College.

As a footnote, my great great uncle attended Marlborough College from January 1895 and left July 1901. He went on to complete his education at Trinity Hall Cambridge and became a lawyer in London. After a few years as a lawyer, and now in his mid 30s, patriotic fervour must have overtaken him and he volunteered to serve his country in WW1 and became a 2nd Lt. Royal Fusiliers (City of London) in 1915. He died of his wounds fighting on the Somme on 16th July, 1916. I often think about him because my late father left me documents regarding his civil and military careers.

Marlborough College is now famous for Pippa and Kate Middleton. Pippa Middleton is popular with me because she has a nice backside - no other reason. If you've got the money, send your children to the best school you can afford.

Strange with that attitude that you denounce others for being 'toffs'. Odd too, if you believe in educaton, that you denounce Oxbridge. If you're clever enough to pass a lot of exams where are you going to go? Sunderland Poly??

A lot of your posts look like double standards. Just sayin'

Posted by comprehensive educated, non-Oxbridge Robbo

[Red-Robbo]

Yep, and wasn't Winston Churchill grandson of the 7th Duke of Marlborough and born in Blenheim Palace. Why don't we just stop whining on about people's background and just assess them for what they are ? Without this aristocratic toff we'd no doubt now be living under German rule.....oh, hang on a minute.

Aren't the Saxe-Coburg-Gothas German?

But that aside, I was really addressing my response to another 'toff' obsessed member of this forum. I don't give a **** what people's background is.

PS: Re Churchill: I think the 2.9m men who served in the British armed forces - plus the Red Army and the Yanks - have more to do with us not speaking German, as inspirational as Winny was undoubtedly.

[Esmond Million's Bung]

Aren't the Saxe-Coburg-Gothas German?

But that aside, I was really addressing my response to another 'toff' obsessed member of this forum. I don't give a **** what people's background is.

PS: Re Churchill: I think the 2.9m men who served in the British armed forces - plus the Red Army and the Yanks - have more to do with us not speaking German, as inspirational as Winny was undoubtedly.

BBC gagging orders, a good use of licence payers fees?.

[Red-Robbo]

BBC gagging orders, a good use of licence payers fees?.

And non-sequitur post of the day award goes to .....

[Esmond Million's Bung]

And non-sequitur post of the day award goes to .....

is this not a thread about TV/BBC licence fees?

[Red-Robbo]

is this not a thread about TV/BBC licence fees?

It was, but you quoted my post as if it had some relation to the Daily Mail's latest anti-public broadcasting innuendo.

[Esmond Million's Bung]

It was, but you quoted my post as if it had some relation to the Daily Mail's latest anti-public broadcasting innuendo.

You really are a touchy person, I was merely seeking your informed thoughts on the matter, but obviously judging from your reply it's all a lie, so thanks for that.

[Red-Robbo]

You really are a touchy person, I was merely seeking your informed thoughts on the matter, but obviously judging from your reply it's all a lie, so thanks for that.

Well I'm not a BBC spokesman. I haven't been staff there for years and indeed am currently in a legal dispute of my own with them!

Re: the Mail story. Employers have to pay to defend themselves from unfair dismissal claims and in an organisation with 20,000+ staff you'd expect a few to be going on at any given time. When you settle an employment tribunal (either formally or pre-hearing), it's perfectly normal for part of the settlement to specify you won't talk about that settlement. That goes on in every industry.

So, "BBC uses licence fee payers money on gagging orders" really means "BBC uses licence fee payers money to dispute unfair dismisal claims, rather than just pay out even more of licence fee money to every Tom, Dick or Harry who asks".

The story is about as mundane as "BBC uses licence fee payers money to clean lavatories" in other words, but of course it suits the interests of the Mail's tax dodging owner to spin the yarn as if there was some sort of sinister plot to silence victims of sexual abuse.

There you go. I have inadvertently acted as their spokesman after all!!! Maybe I should invoice them and then get into a further dispute with their useless accounts people when I get no dosh 9 months on...

[Mr Mosquito]

Strange with that attitude that you denounce others for being 'toffs'. Odd too, if you believe in educaton, that you denounce Oxbridge. If you're clever enough to pass a lot of exams where are you going to go? Sunderland Poly??

A lot of your posts look like double standards. Just sayin'

Posted by comprehensive educated, non-Oxbridge Robbo

I've never criticized anyone for wanting to better themselves via an education or wanting to give their children a better chance in life via a top education. The flaw comes in the fact that the very best schools are often financially out of the reach of the most able pupils. I agree with state grammar schools - I went to one, I'd also like to see more financial assistance given to the children of lower income parents if they've got a bright child that would benefit from a top private school education.

Posted by a state Grammar School educated - non-Oxbridge but university educated - Red Goblin.