North London Red Posted March 9, 2013 Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 Quick question, how far away from Atyeo's appearance record is Carey? The only semi-reliable source I can find is Soccerbase, which suggests he's on 640, five short of Atyeo's 645. Also, how far away is Carey from a return to the first team? Just a thought that with games running out (only nine left this season) he may not play enough games this season to equal or break the record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sglosbcfc Posted March 9, 2013 Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 Give Carey another twelve months on a pay as you play deal, legend who never let's us down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted March 9, 2013 Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 He was training this week apparently so not far off. He will struggle to break the record this season I'd imagine but if he does do you think a stand should be named after him ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC101 Posted March 9, 2013 Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 He's been training for a couple of weeks, but with the way Tangs is playing at the moment he won't be getting any games anytime soon I don't think. He'll need another contract if he wants to beat the record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted March 9, 2013 Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 I think that figure is correct. I fear he won't make it this season, thankfully the form of liam and lewin means he hasn't been missed as much recently. I wouldn't be against a new deal for him if we went down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcshorey Posted March 9, 2013 Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 I've made it 5 more, from the OS appearances then adding on appearances since that was last updated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted March 9, 2013 Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 Got nothing whatsoever against Louis he is a true legend and he has not let us down when he's played this season, but he has struggled all season with fitness, 15 appearances is not good enough for a new contract, however close he gets to Big John's record and on that subject I don't want to sound harsh but Atyeo got the record by being a one club man, Louis would have surpassed the record sometime ago had he not turned down a contract in 2004 and moved to Coventry, in our financial position every penny counts and that money could be better spent IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon uk Posted March 9, 2013 Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 Got nothing whatsoever against Louis he is a true legend and he has not let us down when he's played this season, but he has struggled all season with fitness, 15 appearances is not good enough for a new contract, however close he gets to Big John's record and on that subject I don't want to sound harsh but Atyeo got the record by being a one club man, Louis would have surpassed the record sometime ago had he not turned down a contract in 2004 and moved to Coventry, in our financial position every penny counts and that money could be better spent IMO. Kinda agree, and with respect to Carey, in my eyes, even if he breaks the record, he will never be held in the same reverence, and be recognised at the same Level as atyeo. Though I don't think we will ever see anyone like atyeo again in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 9, 2013 Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 I can't see him getting 5 more this year baring injury to others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sglosbcfc Posted March 9, 2013 Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 Got nothing whatsoever against Louis he is a true legend and he has not let us down when he's played this season, but he has struggled all season with fitness, 15 appearances is not good enough for a new contract, however close he gets to Big John's record and on that subject I don't want to sound harsh but Atyeo got the record by being a one club man, Louis would have surpassed the record sometime ago had he not turned down a contract in 2004 and moved to Coventry, in our financial position every penny counts and that money could be better spent IMO. A pay as you play deal would not cost the club anything, unless of course Louis is out there on the pitch and playing well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenkibby. Posted March 9, 2013 Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 Kinda agree, and with respect to Carey, in my eyes, even if he breaks the record, he will never be held in the same reverence, and be recognised at the same Level as atyeo. Though I don't think we will ever see anyone like atyeo again in the future. all the records now are not on the same playing field, ateyo as far as i know only played league and fa cup. nothing against carey but big jon should keep the record. christ its like leading scorers in the champions league, how can you compare amount of goals against straight k.o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Youell Posted March 9, 2013 Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 Regarding the 15 appearances. He's been fit, just not picked. Does anyone not remember the strange decisions to stick with an out of form Fonts for 6 months? Give him another contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted March 9, 2013 Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 A pay as you play deal would not cost the club anything, unless of course Louis is out there on the pitch and playing well. There's no such thing as a ';free' pay as you pay deal. The player will always be on a retaining wage, just get a lot extra when he actually plays as well. There's really no prospect of Carey playing next season, or there certainly shouldn't be if the club has any intention of moving forward. Time for him to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 Got nothing whatsoever against Louis he is a true legend and he has not let us down when he's played this season, but he has struggled all season with fitness, 15 appearances is not good enough for a new contract, however close he gets to Big John's record and on that subject I don't want to sound harsh but Atyeo got the record by being a one club man, Louis would have surpassed the record sometime ago had he not turned down a contract in 2004 and moved to Coventry, in our financial position every penny counts and that money could be better spent IMO. Big John is as much a one man club as Carey i. e. A two man club. He may have played less games for his 1st club than Carey did for Cov, but none the less he still played games for Portsmouth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcsouth Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 Give Carey another twelve months on a pay as you play deal, legend who never let's us down. Bar from letting the club down when he left us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corleone Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 What is the point in giving him a new deal? Time to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 Bar from letting the club down when he left us? More the club letting him and other local players down, by paying them a lot less than other players who constantly let the club down. Or do we gloss over that fact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Tansley Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 More the club letting him and other local players down, by paying them a lot less than other players who constantly let the club down. Or do we gloss over that fact? Is there any need to ask the last question? We always gloss over facts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 Pedantic point; to equal or break the appearance record, does a player have to start games or just make an appearance as say a 90th minute substitute? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sglosbcfc Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 I am not arguing for sentimental reasons, I think if the financial deal is right I.e Louis only makes any serious money by actually playing in the first team, then it makes sense to retain a player who has proved this season he can still cut it at Championship level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 Pedantic point; to equal or break the appearance record, does a player have to start games or just make an appearance as say a 90th minute substitute? Sub appearances count. Which is why Big John's record will be viewed as better as there weren't any back then. 1965 I think subs were introduced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septic Peg Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 As much as I like Louis and reckon he'll probably get some form of play and pay player/coach 1 year deal next season, he'll probably break the record. But I can't see a stand/bar named after him simply because he's a good player but not our greatest. Big John stuck with us for his career and played for England. You can't really equal that sort of achievement in this day and age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Old Boy Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 More the club letting him and other local players down, by paying them a lot less than other players who constantly let the club down. Or do we gloss over that fact? Therefore, why did he return? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Old Boy Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 Pedantic point; to equal or break the appearance record, does a player have to start games or just make an appearance as say a 90th minute substitute? All Big John's appearances were starts, no substitutes in those days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Old Boy Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 Sub appearances count. Which is why Big John's record will be viewed as better as there weren't any back then. 1965 I think subs were introduced Keith Peacock of Charlton, if I remember correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fka dagest Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 I say let him go now. It's the right time. We should be looking forward, not back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin 101 Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 He was training this week apparently so not far off. He will struggle to break the record this season I'd imagine but if he does do you think a stand should be named after him ? Which stand?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert's City Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 This sounds a bit harsh but I hope he doesn't beat it, as if he does come back in to the team it's either cus we are letting in goals or Fonts/Tangs get injured were looking so strong at the back at the moment, he is a mr city but I would not give him another year, get him coaching the youths. Like another poster said if he stayed he would had already broke the record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 If Louis is to break Big John's appearances record then he should do so legitmately, by which I mean by deservingly being picked to play the requisite number of games. There should be no sentimentality involved to contrive him breaking the record by bringing him on for the last couple of minutes of a match or awarding him a contract extension which is unwarranted. If he breaks the record, fine - well done Louis. If he doesn't then that's fine too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 The fact is come the summer there will be better center backs out of contract than Carey Spend the money on their wages not his Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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