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[Mendip City]

Exactly.

I would love every player to care about the club, make an effort with the fans and play an active role with the club off the pitch. Stead being a great example of this. Sadly it's just not the way it works these days.

Of course it's a little disappointing that Marv didn't go in the supporters bar but he shouldn't be victimised as if he has shat on the club or something. It's ridiculous. There could be a number of reasons why he didn't. Had it been someone like Pearson, Killa, Foster etc who don't put in the hard graft on the pitch then I would understand.

Over the years he has been here Marv has never ever given anything less than 100% on the pitch. He's hardly been a controversial trouble maker with a bad relationship with the fans either. It shouldn't be taken as a personal attack on the club.

He's been a good servant to the club. Ultimately it's what he does on the pitch rather than off it that's what counts. Not ideal, but not every player is a legendary club ambassador. That's just how football is these days. I am sure Marv does care about the club and fans a lot more than others do at the club.

+1

[Mendip City]

For all those hoping to see the back of Marv, just have a think as we slide into the ever physical 3rd level.... These are our other contracted central midfielders: Pearson, Kilkenny, Reid, Kelly.... A little lacking in strength I'd suggest.

[timothy bird]

So he diidnt show in the supporters club bar. As already said perhaps he didn't want to spend time with people a percentage of whine constantly slag him off! Perhaps he was so gutted by that afternoons display that he didn't feel like socialising! Whatever his reasons I don't care. As long as he gives 100% on the pitch that.l do for me!

[BS34Red]

Personally I think we may see the old Elliott return in League One.

[TRL]

First bloke on the teamsheet every time for me. He would run through s brick wall for his team mates. Runs himself into the ground most games. He is a proper team player. Limited ability granted. But 100% player, who gets you goals and disrupts the opposition better than any other midfielder I have seen for us in a good 20 years.

[BdR2000]

Really dont like the answer to the question about why hes here not Barnsley or Blackpool.

The board told him he doesnt have to keep the club up.

[Taylor10]

Or was it the same Marv who gets all manner of stick and abuse on here and at AG? I'd imagine he's had a stomach full of a large chunk of our "support". Supporters Club members won't have been immune from criticising him. Or maybe he just had to be somewhere else.....about time people stopped assessing players on anything other than what they do on a football pitch. That's where, unlike some, Marv when fit gave 100% for City last season. That's his job and all that matters.

My thoughts exactly fella

[Lew-T]

First bloke on the teamsheet every time for me. He would run through s brick wall for his team mates. Runs himself into the ground most games. He is a proper team player. Limited ability granted. But 100% player, who gets you goals and disrupts the opposition better than any other midfielder I have seen for us in a igood 20 years.

He struggles to pass a ball five yards? I don't want workhorses with no brain in my team. He's not good enough, hasn't been for a while now.

[Lew-T]

Surely Marv's the only choice as captain next year..... Should he choose to stay. I'd be surprised if Champ clubs weren't sniffing around.

Really!? How good do you think he is?

[Taylor10]

He struggles to pass a ball five yards? I don't want workhorses with no brain in my team. He's not good enough, hasn't been for a while now.

Killa can pass a ball though Lew. Would you want him in your team? He's as spineless as they come!

It's about getting the balance right. Marv has seen better days granted, but next year won't be all about tika-taka football. I still think he will have a part in the squad to play but I would like to see him used sparingly.

We need some better midfielders sure though.

[TRL]

He struggles to pass a ball five yards? I don't want workhorses with no brain in my team. He's not good enough, hasn't been for a while now.

Until we sign a midfielder with his athleticism and desire, who can also pass, for me he will always be the first one in. I want s player with a will to win over a head dropper who can pass.

Marv even when not fully fit, gives his all, and keeps going.

If we find this possesion player with Marvs attributes, great, drop him. But I would assume such a player would be heading for the prem, not city.

[Taylor10]

Until we sign a midfielder with his athleticism and desire, who can also pass, for me he will always be the first one in. I want s player with a will to win over a head dropper who can pass.

Marv even when not fully fit, gives his all, and keeps going.

If we find this possesion player with Marvs attributes, great, drop him. But I would assume such a player would be heading for the prem, not city.

Have to agree mate.

If we can find better then brilliant. We can use him as and when. Until then I don't want a centre mid of say Killa and Pearson thanks. We all know its an are to improve, let's wait and see who comes in first.

[Lew-T]

Until we sign a midfielder with his athleticism and desire, who can also pass, for me he will always be the first one in. I want s player with a will to win over a head dropper who can pass.

Marv even when not fully fit, gives his all, and keeps going.

If we find this possesion player with Marvs attributes, great, drop him. But I would assume such a player would be heading for the prem, not city.

I like Marv, he's always gave his all for the club but I think it's time to move on. He hasn't been the same player for 5 years now? He struggled to last the pace last year and have for some time, don't be fooled by dropping down a division will be easier for him, if anything it will be harder. Crappy pitches, players in your face, no time on the ball!

I'd have Killa out right now if I had the chance but we need some new blood in the midfield, it's getting quite stale in that department.

[TRL]

Have to agree mate.

If we can find better then brilliant. We can use him as and when. Until then I don't want a centre mid of say Killa and Pearson thanks. We all know its an are to improve, let's wait and see who comes in first.

Indeed. Also marv has had 2 bad injuries he has taken time getting back from. He started to show his form again as he got fitter. Lets not forget, he is 28, he should be hitting his peak.

I think he still has a lot to give... if he is fully over his injuries.

[Mendip City]

Until we sign a midfielder with his athleticism and desire, who can also pass, for me he will always be the first one in. I want s player with a will to win over a head dropper who can pass.

Marv even when not fully fit, gives his all, and keeps going.

If we find this possesion player with Marvs attributes, great, drop him. But I would assume such a player would be heading for the prem, not city.

Absolutely right..... All this "limited player" b**locks spouted on here, you'd think there were Messi's stood waiting on every street corner.

As for limited, there are invariably 10 players with limited ability in the air (in both penalty areas), limited ball winning ability, limited heart compared to Marv.

There won't be many better where we're going next year... Unless I've got it wrong and we are not off to Division3 but have magically been relegated into La Liga or the Dundesliga.

[Taylor10]

Indeed. Also marv has had 2 bad injuries he has taken time getting back from. He started to show his form again as he got fitter. Lets not forget, he is 28, he should be hitting his peak.

I think he still has a lot to give... if he is fully over his injuries.

Without doubt. A strong pre season under SoD will certainly give us an idea if Marv can still offer something. I think he can.

He will be needed some weeks, others possibly not. I would think on a wet windy night at say Northampton on a boggy pitch he will be vital. If we are to return at the first time of asking next season we will need to grind results out. It certainly won't be all pretty possession football.

[Timbo7]

Indeed. Also marv has had 2 bad injuries he has taken time getting back from. He started to show his form again as he got fitter. Lets not forget, he is 28, he should be hitting his peak.

I think he still has a lot to give... if he is fully over his injuries.

I agree

I like Marv, he's always gave his all for the club but I think it's time to move on. He hasn't been the same player for 5 years now? He struggled to last the pace last year and have for some time, don't be fooled by dropping down a division will be easier for him, if anything it will be harder. Crappy pitches, players in your face, no time on the ball!

I can't see "no time on the ball" presenting any particular obstacle to Marvin giving his best

As for not wanting to mix with supporters after the Huddersfield game - although I agree that this can be considered a reasonable requirement of any player, maybe just maybe he felt the same way as I did at 5pm that afternoon. It was an abject performance and Marvin (presumed unfit and certainly not match fit) was among our worst performers that day. I would be more concerned if he did want to socialise immediately after the game.

Pure speculation of course, but I know there are times when my mood dicates that no good can come from forcing a smile and mixing with anyone other than my closest friends. Some have a gift (e,g, Jon Stead) to say the right thing whatever his mood and the circumstances - others (if which I suspect Marvin is one) are not so lucky. I am sure there are some who would respect him more if he had forced himself to do as he was asked and either appeared morose and disinterested (obviously wanting to get away) or worse has lost his temper with a critic and left in anger - but most would take that as a greater indication of a lack of respect than his refusal.

For all that our players are paid they remain human with all the imperfections that involves. They play professional football becomes some deem them good enough - not because they are natural diplomats or politicians, or born to be celebrities. They all have strengths and weaknesses and are not all the same.

Marvin has the heart of lion and it is for this that I admire him - I am more than happy for him to leave entertainment and socialising to others more gifted in these areas.

[Taylor10]

I agree

I can't see "no time on the ball" presenting any particular obstacle to Marvin giving his best

As for not wanting to mix with supporters after the Huddersfield game - although I agree that this can be considered a reasonable requirement of any player, maybe just maybe he felt the same way as I did at 5pm that afternoon. It was an abject performance and Marvin (presumed unfit and certainly not match fit) was among our worst performers that day. I would be more concerned if he did want to socialise immediately after the game.

Pure speculation of course, but I know there are times when my mood dicates that no good can come from forcing a smile and mixing with anyone other than my closest friends. Some have a gift (e,g, Jon Stead) to say the right thing whatever his mood and the circumstances - others (if which I suspect Marvin is one) are not so lucky. I am sure there are some who would respect him more if he had forced himself to do as he was asked and either appeared morose and disinterested (obviously wanting to get away) or worse has lost his temper with a critic and left in anger - but most would take that as a greater indication of a lack of respect than his refusal.

For all that our players are paid they remain human with all the imperfections that involves. They play professional football becomes some deem them good enough - not because they are natural diplomats or politicians, or born to be celebrities. They all have strengths and weaknesses and are not all the same.

Marvin has the heart of lion and it is for this that I admire him - I am more than happy for him to leave entertainment and socialising to others more gifted in these areas.

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[Jordan Tansley]

So he diidnt show in the supporters club bar. As already said perhaps he didn't want to spend time with people a percentage of whine constantly slag him off! Perhaps he was so gutted by that afternoons display that he didn't feel like socialising! Whatever his reasons I don't care. As long as he gives 100% on the pitch that.l do for me!

Skuse and Carey recieve the same stuff... They attended.

You'd expect more from a captain...

[Ian M]

I may have missed it but I thought more fuss would have been made over changes to the new East End,ridding it of boxes and creating a single tier stand? I thought lots of people would be celebrating this move by the club?

[beaverface]

I may have missed it but I thought more fuss would have been made over changes to the new East End,ridding it of boxes and creating a single tier stand? I thought lots of people would be celebrating this move by the club?

The flip side to this, is the announcement of the two level classroom between the Dolman and the East End. I would of loved the seating to have bent around from the Dolman to the East End - not in a continuous bowl kind of join, but similar to the way Charltons stands meet - kind of ad hoc, on slightly different levels, but still joining it all together.

As AG has quite a small footprint, I think we need to maximise as much space as possible for tight, imposing seating/standing rather than a two levelled class rooms being plonked in the corner.

I can't comment too much as I haven't seen the plans, so I'll continue to keep an open mind until then.

[Mendip City]

The flip side to this, is the announcement of the two level classroom between the Dolman and the East End. I would of loved the seating to have bent around from the Dolman to the East End - not in a continuous bowl kind of join, but similar to the way Charltons stands meet - kind of ad hoc, on slightly different levels, but still joining it all together.

As AG has quite a small footprint, I think we need to maximise as much space as possible for tight, imposing seating/standing rather than a two levelled class rooms being plonked in the corner.

I can't comment too much as I haven't seen the plans, so I'll continue to keep an open mind until then.

Classrooms?

[beaverface]

Classrooms?

From the minutes...

"MG revealed that the corner between the Dolman and Wedlock stands will become a Community corner. It will include a matchday facility and classrooms spaced on two floors. More detailed plans will be available at the next stadium working group meeting.

Read more at http://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/article/20130510-fansparliament-817309.aspx#VTWDOfUPJFZzFvHh.99"

[Drew Peacock]

The same Marv who point blank refused to come into the supporters club and trust bar following the last home game, despite us sponsoring his shirt all season, and despite Albert (the other shirt we sponsored) Jon Stead, and Carey all being happy to come and mingle for a short while.

Sponsoring a shirt gives you some sort of proprietorial rights over a player? If I sponsored a player's shirt I could expect them to come to a family barbecue?

Given the shit he takes on the Supporters Trust managed forum I am not surprised he didn't turn up. Although, of course there could have been a thousand reasons he couldn't make it.

Albert & Stead would have been saying their goodbyes and Carey might have thought he was if he didn't know he was getting a contract offer.

Honestly, don't be so precious!

[Dollymarie]

Its not about being precious. When another first team member didn't turn up to the shirt sponsors evening not too long ago, he was fined by the club.

It wouldn't have been a big deal to show his face, those players that did come over only received positivity from fans in there.

[Drew Peacock]

Its not about being precious. When another first team member didn't turn up to the shirt sponsors evening not too long ago, he was fined by the club.

It wouldn't have been a big deal to show his face, those players that did come over only received positivity from fans in there.

Are you saying he should be fined for not turning up to an event he was under no obligation to do so?

From what you say only 3 players out of the match day squad went over anyway, why pick on Marvin Elliot?

[i hate rovers]

They've been utter dogshit. Go hug them if it makes you feel better.

They're easy to spot, look for the guys coming away from AG on payday with bags on their backs saying SWAG as they rob the club.

well said..we pay are money and are intitalled to a opinion...END OF!!!!

[i hate rovers]

OK thanks for that. I know this isn't the place to start another debate, but I think the easiest solution would be to incorporate both. Couldn't the robin go by the manufacturer's logo instead? What about the arm? Wouldn't two badges in itself give our kits a kind of identity unique among others? Regardless even if the robin wins a place back on the kit, I think the job to come up with something that won't look of its age will be difficult. Part of the appeal of the crest for me is it looks timeless. So many clubs redesign badges and change them 20 years later because they look dated. Is it possible to produce a timeless robin badge?

Thanks for the update anyway.

good idea. .the coat of arms keep reminding me of egg chasers

[Dollymarie]

Are you saying he should be fined for not turning up to an event he was under no obligation to do so?

From what you say only 3 players out of the match day squad went over anyway, why pick on Marvin Elliot?

His shirt was one of the two sponsored (Albert was the other) we were told he was coming after he had been invited, and then after the match when the member of staff went to get him he refused.

Albert came, Stead and Louis were just a bonus.

[NickJ]

His shirt was one of the two sponsored (Albert was the other) we were told he was coming after he had been invited, and then after the match when the member of staff went to get him he refused.

Why would a member of staff need to get him, doesn't he know where it is?

"Back in the day" players like Walshy in fact ALL the players just came into the supporters club after EVERY game without prompting from "members of staff".

Not a dig at you Dolly, but at today's players, and the culture which the club has allowed to develop.