Kibs Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 Would love to start next season with Baldock and Taylor up front. Lots of niggles and a complete lack of service didn't help Baldock at all last season. Besides, unless he submits an official transfer request, he won't be going anywhere. Would cost us a fortune in compensation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 We'd need to have a striker lined up to replace him if we were to sell. Would like to think we'd hold out for £1.5m and if we did sell would be worth sticking a bid in for someone like Luke Freeman or Nahki Wells. I'd rather keep Baldock then Davies though. Would rather not have Taylor having to start the majority of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityed Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 I honestly believe Baldock can score 20 odd in league one with the team and type of football Sod plays. His record and videos of his goals at mk and west ham proves this. If he is still here in July I am going to shove £10 on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJC Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 If he stays fit he'll score 20 goals in League 1. Over-riding feeling though is that if we receive a substantial offer (£800,000 plus), and faced with the realisation that his wage could provide 2 new signing, lower league, first team starters, id be pretty suprised if we didnt sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickolas Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 Cheerio Sammy boy!! Thanks for the, erm, um, nothing?! Wages, injuries and to my mind, signed for us only because he didnt have anywhere to go! £1m = must sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InCider Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 With a propper midfield he'd get 20+ Agree. Has not had decent enough service up til now. Would bang them in for fun in league 1 if we can sort our midfield out. Luckily SOD seems to rate him too, so can't see him going unless we're offered stupid money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 Cheerio Sammy boy!! Thanks for the, erm, um, nothing?! Wages, injuries and to my mind, signed for us only because he didnt have anywhere to go! £1m = must sell. You sure about that? Sure I read numerous rumours he was being chased by a few teams when he signed for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 take the lolley-get him off that wage bill..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 Rather have Taylor a battler, Baldock can jog on for whatever we can get, waste of space and money imo Taylor: a battler who never scores Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedminster Born And Red Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 If we do sell Baldock I think we're selling 20 goals in League 1 next season. The question is whether SOD thinks he can buy or acquire twenty goals to replace Baldock at much better value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 Not played out on the right wing he won't Yup, often played more as a midfielder on the left or right of a front 3 - he has been unlucky (just like other players Pitman etc - ) that he has been in a team that simply does not suit any forward/striker that cannot thrive of long 50/50 balls in the air - if we played the ball on the ground, balls behind around the box, or in the channels Baldock has shown he can work those areas well - but has far to little opportunity thanks to being in a poor team (just like Pitman). I think he with Anderson & Bryan could play some pretty devastating passing football in and around the box/danger areas - just hope they get the chance. As for the money.... do we need it that much ? If we can live within FFP and create the best possible chance for us to be in the top 6 by keeping him - then I would.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
You Do The Dziekanowski Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 Baldocks Pace? Am I the only one who hasn't seen that this season? He's just a small striker who struggles to find the net, 1m sell! He got 8? this season most of which were from the spot, What makes you think he'll score 20+ in L1? I feel he's overrated by many on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo1111 Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 If we do sell Baldock I think we're selling 20 goals in League 1 next season. The question is whether SOD thinks he can buy or acquire twenty goals to replace Baldock at much better value. Nail on head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 For a million quid I'd give him a piggy-back to Charlton. Awful first touch, pointless in a 451, nothing in the air, ok finisher and injured for weeks at the first sign of a little knock. Also a high earner. No brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 For a million quid I'd give him a piggy-back to Charlton. Awful first touch, pointless in a 451, nothing in the air, ok finisher and injured for weeks at the first sign of a little knock. Also a high earner. No brainer. Well for a start I don't think we'll be playing 451 much next season. His injury prone-ness is a worry, but I'd argue that his poor first touch and inconsistent performances are probably linked to him not being fully fit. As with Davies, our need to have someone who can score goals was generally greater than our need to have players who were 100% fit. He was very good at the start of the season Anyway, what people seem to be overlooking is where on earth Charlton are going to get £1million from? No way we can turn down 7 figures, but who's going to pay that for him? I suspect that unless the toys come out the pram he'll be here come August Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedminster Born And Red Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 Baldocks Pace? Am I the only one who hasn't seen that this season? He's just a small striker who struggles to find the net, 1m sell! He got 8? this season most of which were from the spot, What makes you think he'll score 20+ in L1? I feel he's overrated by many on here He's done it before is what makes me think that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 He hasnt EVER! Sorry to burst your bubble, he's never scored more than 14 in a season .http://espnfc.com/player/_/id/73314/sam-baldock?cc=5739 FWIW he is like Danny Haynes, in all but name. He needs to work on his composure in front of goal more and then would be a real at this level or the Champs, however at this stage, he doesnt really do much of anything, consistantly. If we played 3 up front 'properly' we may get more from him, but lumps arent really working. He's nowhere near as quick as Haynes. I agree with chipdawg, there's no way anyone's paying £1 million for him least of all Charlton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Tansley Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 He hasnt EVER! Sorry to burst your bubble, he's never scored more than 14 in a season .http://espnfc.com/player/_/id/73314/sam-baldock?cc=5739 FWIW he is like Danny Haynes, in all but name. He needs to work on his composure in front of goal more and then would be a real at this level or the Champs, however at this stage, he doesnt really do much of anything, consistantly. If we played 3 up front 'properly' we may get more from him, but lumps arent really working. He is absolutely nothing like Danny Haynes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksred Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 If we get any offers of 7 figures, for any of this lot, not just Baldock, they will go. No ****** wants to play in L1 after playing in the Championship! And our pile of debt of 41 mill suggests its a cert....FFP and all that other shite.We are not gonna find it easy in this league this season, not in a million years...A big **** YOU to the four managers who have left us in this ****** awful mess.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 Well, thanks for the insight. I put my view across. Striker/Winger who is relatively quick and cant shoot properly for toffee rated elsewhere, came here and flattered to decieve.. I'd say that's pretty similar in my view he isn't anything like haynes, his movement off the ball is a hell of a lot better for a start, and he can't play on the wing dispite what McInnes thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kibs Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 What makes me think he would get 20 Goals in league 1? 10 goals in 23 Championship Starts and 11 Sub appearances this season. Not bad at all IMO especially when you consider he struggled for fitness, we often lumped the ball at his head, he was occasionally played out of position and was playing for the divisions worst team. He will score goals in League 1 for fun if he can remain fit, is played in position and we keep the ball on the deck. If we sell him, we have no chance of replacing him with a player of equal quality unless we unearth an absolute gem from somewhere. I wouldn't like to take the chance personally. We are in League 1 now and the standard may come as a bit of a shock for those wanting rid of Baldock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Enormous Turnip Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 Baldock's wages won't count towards our FFP total anyway though... anybody signed last season on a 3+ year deal is the criteria isn't it? Keep him here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 What makes me think he would get 20 Goals in league 1? 10 goals in 23 Championship Starts and 11 Sub appearances this season. Not bad at all IMO especially when you consider he struggled for fitness, we often lumped the ball at his head, he was occasionally played out of position and was playing for the divisions worst team. He will score goals in League 1 for fun if he can remain fit, is played in position and we keep the ball on the deck. If we sell him, we have no chance of replacing him with a player of equal quality unless we unearth an absolute gem from somewhere. I wouldn't like to take the chance personally. We are in League 1 now and the standard may come as a bit of a shock for those wanting rid of Baldock. so 3 shortof pitmans best season for us in less appeances............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 I've never understood the obsession with strikers that run around a lot but don't score. That I can understand in midfield or defence It seems we have a lot of fans that prefer a forwards work rate over goals. I am the exact opposite when it comes to strikers. Thank you lord! I couldn't care less if a striker only touches the ball once in the whole game as long as its the winner. Baldock is that guy, as was Brett and look what happened to him when he started getting some ball .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
You Do The Dziekanowski Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 What makes me think he would get 20 Goals in league 1? 10 goals in 23 Championship Starts and 11 Sub appearances this season. Not bad at all IMO especially when you consider he struggled for fitness, we often lumped the ball at his head, he was occasionally played out of position and was playing for the divisions worst team. He will score goals in League 1 for fun if he can remain fit, is played in position and we keep the ball on the deck. If we sell him, we have no chance of replacing him with a player of equal quality unless we unearth an absolute gem from somewhere. I wouldn't like to take the chance personally. We are in League 1 now and the standard may come as a bit of a shock for those wanting rid of Baldock. I just don't understand how people can say a player will score 20+ goals, He's a poacher a natural finisher, He should be able to score at any level if you're a poacher its about being in the right place at the right time, Baldock hasn't done that enough for me so far, That's why I struggle to see where his goals will come from, He's only got one side to his game being the fox in the box, If a good enough offer comes in take it I'll be happy to be proven wrong next season though Baldock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 I just don't understand how people can say a player will score 20+ goals, He's a poacher a natural finisher, He should be able to score at any level if you're a poacher its about being in the right place at the right time, Baldock hasn't done that enough for me so far, That's why I struggle to see where his goals will come from, He's only got one side to his game being the fox in the box, If a good enough offer comes in take it I'll be happy to be proven wrong next season though Baldock 10 in 23 says otherwise, if he starts 46 games those stats suggest he'd get 20 goals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRaw Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 I just don't understand how people can say a player will score 20+ goals, He's a poacher a natural finisher, He should be able to score at any level if you're a poacher its about being in the right place at the right time, Baldock hasn't done that enough for me so far, Any "poacher" relies on service and in particular the ball being in the oppositions penalty box......can you honestly say we either provided that service or had the ball in that area enough for him to do what he's good at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Tansley Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 Well, thanks for the insight. I put my view across. Striker/Winger who is relatively quick and cant shoot properly for toffee rated elsewhere, came here and flattered to decieve.. I'd say that's pretty similar in my view He can't play on the wing, Haynes was quite good there. He can finish, he's just lost his form, you need only look at how he was playing in his first few games to see that. Haynes was the worst finisher I've seen in a City shirt (didn't see Junior Bent and I don't class out League 1 strikers under GJ as they were understandably poor) Baldock has superb movement when he's on song, Haynes only had pace. Massively different players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 Baldock's wages won't count towards our FFP total anyway though... anybody signed last season on a 3+ year deal is the criteria isn't it? Keep him here... I've seen this mentioned a few times , and I have asked before but not had an answer from anyone. Is this definitely right and if so , what is the reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Tansley Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 I've seen this mentioned a few times , and I have asked before but not had an answer from anyone. Is this definitely right and if so , what is the reason? The reason was given in the post you quoted. I believe it was to give relegated teams a bit of leeway when they signed long term contracts with players knowing how difficult it can be to shift those sorts of players. There's. bit if confusion as to whether its 3 or 4 year contracts but I understand its the former. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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