tinman-is-god Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 If you read the article...he says he's impressed with what he's seen so far. I did read the article and Isco wasn't mentioned. Didn't realise he had joined from Valencia in 2011 so he would, as Kezman points out, probably had little to do with him. Thanks for the advice though, really appreciate it. I'll remember to read articles from now on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman-is-god Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Think he's already been here a month or two mate, according to the article on bcfc.co.uk Indeed. With the right coaching and emphasis on the correct things to do, he could make a huge difference. When you look at the kids clubs like Watford and Southampton can produce, who's to say we can't match that. Our academy has long been a failure, this shake up could be exactly what it needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 I did read the article and Isco wasn't mentioned. Didn't realise he had joined from Valencia in 2011 so he would, as Kezman points out, probably had little to do with him. Thanks for the advice though, really appreciate it. I'll remember to read articles from now on. Ermmmm...I still think you are not reading correctly or understanding. I commented on the fact that he had implied he was impressed with what he'd seen here already...in reply to your comment that he wouldn't be impressed with our kids Tecnical abilities... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Right Honourable Les Q Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Let us all hope and pray that this isn't the Carlos kick-a-ball that Lord Sugar railed against many years ago. Perhaps he will persuade SOD to drop Sammy boy and play 6 in midfield. That would be worth paying to see-the reaction in the stands, not the ball retention on the pitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnclosureSurge Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 I wasn't going to post on here anymore, but couldn't resist replying to this news. It's really got my juices flowing and it points in the direction, that we maybe trying to follow a Swansea type route...something i've adhered to for a long time. I realise results aren't going our way at the moment, and can understand peoples frustrations. However... the bigger picture is looking bright. We as a Club are moving in all the right directions. Trying to play 'Football' as it should be played... now in a modern way. Some fans ask why the transition period is taking longer than other Clubs... it's because we are trying to play football inteligently and build a platform for the future. I'm sure SoD cold impliment some tactics to win a few games straight away, but that would be like taking one step forward and two steps back. Imho, we need to keep faith with this transition throughout the Club. It's taking longer than people expect and like... but it really is a massive change in the way we are trying to play. The biggest problem is getting our first team players to understand what they need to be doing it seems. SoD has alluded to this. Hopefully it will become ingrained this season and we kick on next. You can already see the improvement in our football and our possession rate. I really enjoy and am impressed with our new style of play... apart from the results, it's been entertaining to watch this season. Friends and collegues alike have all agreed, that it's been so much more entertaining than the last few seasons. Imho... if we stick with SoD and his ethos and the Clubs new direction, we will be going to games and being entertained... hopefully with a few wins thrown in. Do we really want to go backwards playing boring football languishing in the bottom half of the Championship just treading water? This system we are implementing has all the hallmarks of a bright future... it took Swansea quiet a while to let the transition take place and they went into Div 2. It's worth thinking about... the chances of a Club like ours becoming big enough to get to the Premier League and stay their are quiet remote. It takes brave decisions and sometimes hardship to make that eventual progress. So many other Clubs are trying to do the same thing, but by the old methods... a merry go round of managers and players of similar quality playing a similar way... they can't all be Champions. To be frank... it's dull to watch. Our chances of surviving with the bigger boys in the Championship using 'traditional' methods is quiet remote... if some of them struggle, say for example 'Derby County'... then how are little us meant to do well and survive. We are a backwater and a Club that isn't attractive to many professionals... We have to try something different to survive and progress long term. If we could become an entertaining strong Championship team in the top half, then I think we would have done extremely well...anybody having expectations of more imho is deluded. There are too many stronger bigger teams to fight against. Personally... I think it would be possible to go back to old methods... with an old type manager like Warnock and get promotion eventually. But... how long would it last. I believe we would always struggle in the Championship and be as usual a yoyo type club between Championship and League 1... our history shows that. We have to try something different... which is what we are doing. Something strong and solid that can survive the rigers of the Championship on a long term basis... to become established their. That is what we are trying to achieve by new methods. I hope fans can see this, and give it time and enjoy the transition... enjoy the football, enjoy seeing players develop, enjoy our new possession and style of football... yes there will be bad days like against Wycombe... but the seeds are their. Start watching your football through different eyes...enjoy the ride...and try and not let the result and our league position cloud your judgement. Blooding youngsters and having gifted kids coming through is what we've wanted for years... now people complain... it's not so easy to get those results with this method...but still they complain. The Club can't win it seems. And stop worrying about how SoD sounds in interviews or how he looks on the sidelines and the colour of our training kit... it's despairing to read... if you want crash bang wallop football with no grace then head to the downs... there's plenty of shouting their and arm waving... that's why it's still on the Downs. People need to see Football has moved on drastically this season and we need change... not to go back to the old 'traditional' methods... because they won't work in the long run. Excellent post! Reasoned argument, bit of optimism and lots of gaps between paragraphs...my kind of post. Aiming for the likes of Swansea's model is excellent. One of the most important points you make (to my ears) is we must stick with this way of doing things and not perform a U-turn if things continue to be hairy for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted October 11, 2013 Admin Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 If he was at Malaga I'm hoping/assuming he was involved with the development of Isco? What a player he is. I think he's in for a shock when he sees the lack of technical ability in our kids. Until the 15/16 year olds start reaching his age group. Despite losing a couple to Chelsea & Liverpool this Summer, I understand there is still a lot of talent in this age group. Excellent post! Reasoned argument, bit of optimism and lots of gaps between paragraphs...my kind of post. Aiming for the likes of Swansea's model is excellent. One of the most important points you make (to my ears) is we must stick with this way of doing things and not perform a U-turn if things continue to be hairy for a while. I concur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forza Revolution Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Muy bien. Vamos City Vamos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 I wasn't going to post on here anymore, . Welcome back!! Great post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
You Do The Dziekanowski Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 I wasn't going to post on here anymore, but couldn't resist replying to this news. It's really got my juices flowing and it points in the direction, that we maybe trying to follow a Swansea type route...something i've adhered to for a long time. I realise results aren't going our way at the moment, and can understand peoples frustrations. However... the bigger picture is looking bright. We as a Club are moving in all the right directions. Trying to play 'Football' as it should be played... now in a modern way. Some fans ask why the transition period is taking longer than other Clubs... it's because we are trying to play football inteligently and build a platform for the future. I'm sure SoD cold impliment some tactics to win a few games straight away, but that would be like taking one step forward and two steps back. Imho, we need to keep faith with this transition throughout the Club. It's taking longer than people expect and like... but it really is a massive change in the way we are trying to play. The biggest problem is getting our first team players to understand what they need to be doing it seems. SoD has alluded to this. Hopefully it will become ingrained this season and we kick on next. You can already see the improvement in our football and our possession rate. I really enjoy and am impressed with our new style of play... apart from the results, it's been entertaining to watch this season. Friends and collegues alike have all agreed, that it's been so much more entertaining than the last few seasons. Imho... if we stick with SoD and his ethos and the Clubs new direction, we will be going to games and being entertained... hopefully with a few wins thrown in. Do we really want to go backwards playing boring football languishing in the bottom half of the Championship just treading water? This system we are implementing has all the hallmarks of a bright future... it took Swansea quiet a while to let the transition take place and they went into Div 2. It's worth thinking about... the chances of a Club like ours becoming big enough to get to the Premier League and stay their are quiet remote. It takes brave decisions and sometimes hardship to make that eventual progress. So many other Clubs are trying to do the same thing, but by the old methods... a merry go round of managers and players of similar quality playing a similar way... they can't all be Champions. To be frank... it's dull to watch. Our chances of surviving with the bigger boys in the Championship using 'traditional' methods is quiet remote... if some of them struggle, say for example 'Derby County'... then how are little us meant to do well and survive. We are a backwater and a Club that isn't attractive to many professionals... We have to try something different to survive and progress long term. If we could become an entertaining strong Championship team in the top half, then I think we would have done extremely well...anybody having expectations of more imho is deluded. There are too many stronger bigger teams to fight against. Personally... I think it would be possible to go back to old methods... with an old type manager like Warnock and get promotion eventually. But... how long would it last. I believe we would always struggle in the Championship and be as usual a yoyo type club between Championship and League 1... our history shows that. We have to try something different... which is what we are doing. Something strong and solid that can survive the rigers of the Championship on a long term basis... to become established their. That is what we are trying to achieve by new methods. I hope fans can see this, and give it time and enjoy the transition... enjoy the football, enjoy seeing players develop, enjoy our new possession and style of football... yes there will be bad days like against Wycombe... but the seeds are their. Start watching your football through different eyes...enjoy the ride...and try and not let the result and our league position cloud your judgement. Blooding youngsters and having gifted kids coming through is what we've wanted for years... now people complain... it's not so easy to get those results with this method...but still they complain. The Club can't win it seems. And stop worrying about how SoD sounds in interviews or how he looks on the sidelines and the colour of our training kit... it's despairing to read... if you want crash bang wallop football with no grace then head to the downs... there's plenty of shouting their and arm waving... that's why it's still on the Downs. People need to see Football has moved on drastically this season and we need change... not to go back to the old 'traditional' methods... because they won't work in the long run. Thank you Spudski, Excellent Post We just need to post this on all the Polls and SoD out threads just so everyone can see what's happening for the Club as a whole, Not just the XI on the pitch, Everything is changing at the club and sacking SOD will be the worst thing we could do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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