Carey 6 Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 is pearson seriously injured? ive forgotten why he doesnt feature any more I saw him in Cabot about two weeks ago walking quickly & fine so can't be that far of of a return can he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlokeCDP Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 Have we got Sean's direct quote on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CotswoldRed Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 I'm trying to remember any manager who rated a player but refused to play him ever again due to fan pressure. Clearly many players have been given a few weeks off due to poor form/falling foul of the fans, but this is something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 Have we got Sean's direct quote on this? Something along the lines of "I can't play him because of the negative effect and he needs to start his career again elsewhere" Listen to the Twentypence interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 thats exsactly as i remember it On the face of it Dyche was a good signing for us, but played like shit for us, nothing to do with the crowd whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 Dyche was one of those players that never worked out here, he did play through injury during his time here but wasn't very good, once he left and recovered he went on to continue his pretty decent career including almost helping millwall get to the prem and doing a very good job at the heart of watford defence, Kilkenny is awful and if he can't take a bit of stick from the crowd he shouldn't be a pro footballer, Lee Johnson got loads of abuse it didn't stop him putting in 100% every single week, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 I think last month Neil Kilkenny tweeted along the same lines agreeing to such, also mentioning how other players have 'failed' at this Club, but moved again and done well... Yannick, Chris wood, Danny Rose and Pitman if I remember correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshy Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 I'm trying to remember any manager who rated a player but refused to play him ever again due to fan pressure. Clearly many players have been given a few weeks off due to poor form/falling foul of the fans, but this is something else. It's a good job that Ramsey didn't listen to all the whingers when he set up what eventually came to be referred to as his 'wingless wonders'. There was plenty of moaning from press and public at the time. Surely the manager has to select what he considers to be his best team for the job in hand. For what it's worth I think that O'Driscoll's record, 1 win in 23, yep that's half a season, is truly appalling and he should have been given a short-term target, something like 9 points from the next 6 games, quite some time ago. Something to concentrate the mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 I saw him in Cabot about two weeks ago walking quickly & fine so can't be that far of of a return can he? I've heard rumours Pearson could be out for the season so won't play for City again. A big blow if true, I think he'd be very effective for us at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercurial Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 I sympathise mate as I'd have been hacked off seeing Kilkenny behave like this. He's earned more than a good wage from us for a very long time now yet clearly has no respect for our club or his teammates. Not a lot to ask of him to look interested and show a bit of support for the team he's supposed to be part of. Typical "here for the money only" attitude of last season's team though. Sooner we get rid the better. Kilkenny doesn't have to go to the home games if he doesn't want to, he could stay at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 Kilkenny doesn't have to go to the home games if he doesn't want to, he could stay at home. So I've heard, he lives a 5 min walk away from AG so let's not get too excited about that... Fact is Fontaine and Kilkenny were both gash long before SOD arrived, so how he's taking blame for their omission I don't know. All SOD said as I recall was that both players were playing badly and as a result the fans were on their back and in turn that made their places untenable. He is spot on and anyone who was at Cov could've told you that Fontaine's career in a City shirt was over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich_s Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 On the face of it Dyche was a good signing for us, but played like shit for us, nothing to do with the crowd whatsoever. He was a good signing for us and played well until injured. When he returned he played like shit and got possibly the worst treatment from the AG fans that I've ever seen any player get. As has been mentioned he went onto Millwall, recovered fully from injury and I believe was their player of the season for two consecutive years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 Kilkenny doesn't have to go to the home games if he doesn't want to, he could stay at home. Don't think it's down to him wanting to or not, aren't they contracted to be at the games? What happens if players are injured on match day and then can't be replaced either in the team or on the bench as they didn't fancy it that day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 I think last month Neil Kilkenny tweeted along the same lines agreeing to such, also mentioning how other players have 'failed' at this Club, but moved again and done well... Yannick, Chris wood, Danny Rose and Pitman if I remember correctly. Kilkenny tweets the people who think he's a great player and should be in the team Yes, there are actually a few city fans who think neil Kilkenny is a good player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 He was a good signing for us and played well until injured. When he returned he played like shit and got possibly the worst treatment from the AG fans that I've ever seen any player get. As has been mentioned he went onto Millwall, recovered fully from injury and I believe was their player of the season for two consecutive years. Sorry that title will always be LJ's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 I've heard rumours Pearson could be out for the season so won't play for City again. A big blow if true, I think he'd be very effective for us at this level. Quite agree, Noggers. Largeish player, not afraid to mix it a bit, gets forward and chips in with a few goals. I think he lost his way last season, but if he does return he seems very suited to this division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 I've heard rumours Pearson could be out for the season so won't play for City again. A big blow if true, I think he'd be very effective for us at this level. Yes I thought that the club had already mentioned that he maybe out for the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrumpty Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 Kilkenny doesn't play because SOD doesn't have the man management skills to get the best out of him, same goes for Fontaine and, for that matter, the rest of the squad. However, SOD can't/won't admit this, so blames the fans. Harsh, but true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 I'm trying to remember any manager who rated a player but refused to play him ever again due to fan pressure. Clearly many players have been given a few weeks off due to poor form/falling foul of the fans, but this is something else. A few years ago Real Madrid signed a player called Diarra (not the pompey one) and after a couple of poor performances early on the then manager made the decision to only use him in away matches due to the abuse he got from his own fans when playing at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Cyril Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 If SOD claims it is the fans who dictate who plays, might he be worried if it is the fans who also determine who manages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 I'll fess up and say that for most of John Ward's tenure, I was living in New Hampshire and only made the occasional match BUT I really don't remember it like this. Dyche was poor, but my memory is of most of blame being attached to managers. What I was trying to say to Bristol-Rob was that he wasn't hounded out of BCFC and "ruined" by the experience. That's such an anti City fan statement I'd have expected it from the Head Coach. Why? Because I'm saying it as it is ? I've been going to AG for nearly four decades mate,I think I know what our crowd has been like at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 A few years ago Real Madrid signed a player called Diarra (not the pompey one) and after a couple of poor performances early on the then manager made the decision to only use him in away matches due to the abuse he got from his own fans when playing at home. John Ward said the same about Dyche. That was told to me by a Mr S. Davidson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Major Isewater Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 If SOD claims it is the fans who dictate who plays, might he be worried if it is the fans who also determine who manages? So logically it's our fault we are languishing near the bottom of league 1. Us out ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 John Ward said the same about Dyche. That was told to me by a Mr S. Davidson. Interesting mate. Dyche had played over 200+ league games before he came here. Just captained a team on an amazing FA cup run. He came to us but took so much shite from our crowd that Ward loaned him out to Luton. He had only played 18 games for us. He then went on to play over 200 further league games for other clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 He was a good signing for us and played well until injured. When he returned he played like shit and got possibly the worst treatment from the AG fans that I've ever seen any player get. As has been mentioned he went onto Millwall, recovered fully from injury and I believe was their player of the season for two consecutive years. He never helped his cause by clapping sarcastically when taken off against West Brom... couldn't blame him mind, fans were booing him and of course the ironic cheer when he was taken off. But I really don't think he fully recovered from his injury and seemed to be trying to play through it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 Interesting mate. Dyche had played over 200+ league games before he came here. Just captained a team on an amazing FA cup run. He came to us but took so much shite from our crowd that Ward loaned him out to Luton. He had only played 18 games for us. He then went on to play over 200 further league games for other clubs. As others have said, he wasn't 100% fit when he was here, but the boo-boys put pay to any chance of a career in BS3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 He never helped his cause by clapping sarcastically when taken off against West Brom... couldn't blame him mind, fans were booing him and of course the ironic cheer when he was taken off. But I really don't think he fully recovered from his injury and seemed to be trying to play through it. That's about the size of it. I've said before, all 3 of the Chesterfield lads who eventuall ended up here, Dyche, Mercer and Holland, were crocked from their FA cup exploits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 A few years ago Real Madrid signed a player called Diarra (not the pompey one) and after a couple of poor performances early on the then manager made the decision to only use him in away matches due to the abuse he got from his own fans when playing at home. Oh well at least that proves that football and it's fans are the same the world over and it end's the ridiculous notion that is spouted on here about BCFC fans somehow being the worst in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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