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Stewbold

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I may have missed it among everything thing else yesterday, but the thing that struck me about the email from JL, the interviews with him on the Beeb and Youtube, and the articles on the OS, were the lack of public thanks and gratitude to SOD. Regardless of whether I felt the decision was right or not, I was disappointed by that. Normally when a manager is sacked the club/chairman etc place on record their thanks and acknowledge that they tried (unless you are Tony Pulis). They don't appear to have done that? If that is the case I think that is unprofessional, unless it is something SOD specifically requested.

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Red-Robbo

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Jon L said this: "We've made a lot of progress as a football club. Sean has helped to implement our strategy and we thank him for that. He's obviously very disappointed. He's put a lot of hard work in..."

 

 

All of which is fair enough. I've no doubt he did work hard.

 

I think Lansdown Jr took some plain-speaking lessons from SOD and basically told it like it is. No point praising someone to the skies when you're sacking them for failing to do their job satisfactorily.

 
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Why would you thank a man that has failed at this club and has been paid well?

 

How arrogant. Like him or loathe him, I don't think anyone can doubt he wanted what was best for the club.

 

I'm sure you are paid perfectly well (in relation to your job and market value), if your employer decided they no longer wished to employ you, I'm pretty sure the least you would expect would be a thanks for the effort you put in whilst they did.

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You've got to be joking.

Get sacked and expect to be thanked. Only in football.

Get sacked and get escorted of the premises by security more

 

I can't remember a single person ever getting thanked for their hard work when getting fired!  Only in football indeed! 

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You've got to be joking.

Get sacked and expect to be thanked. Only in football.

Get sacked and get escorted of the premises by security more like

 

Don't be a fool. Yes it hasn't worked out but nobdy can doubt the hard work he has put in on and off the pitch.

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Don't be a fool. Yes it hasn't worked out but nobdy can doubt the hard work he has put in on and off the pitch.

Super, have you ever been sacked from a job? if you were  would you expect to be thanked?  I am not on about being made redundant, I am on about being sacked because you are not performing to the level that is required!

 

Just because someone somewhere once thanked a manager after sacking him, it seems everyone has to be sacked.  How many people have stopped going because of SOD?  how much has he cost the club in dropping attendances?

 

Now for me I didn't want him sacked, but they made that decision as he wasn't producing, you don't get thanked for not producing.  Sorry.  it seems football is allowed to step out of the real world sometimes!

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Super, have you ever been sacked from a job? if you were  would you expect to be thanked?  I am not on about being made redundant, I am on about being sacked because you are not performing to the level that is required!

 

Just because someone somewhere once thanked a manager after sacking him, it seems everyone has to be sacked.  How many people have stopped going because of SOD?  how much has he cost the club in dropping attendances?

 

Now for me I didn't want him sacked, but they made that decision as he wasn't producing, you don't get thanked for not producing.  Sorry.  it seems football is allowed to step out of the real world sometimes!

 

Maybe not thanked but not told to **** off that's for sure. It didn't work out but it wasn't for his lack of effort.

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Hmm shall I report this?

No. Perhaps not. Only in football can some get sacked for being really bad at their job and not deliverin and then get thanked for screwing it up

. I don't believe it's only in football ,bankers seem to get this as well. Plus a golden hand shake
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A thread for morons. Have fun.

 

Are you surprised?

 

What I find amusing is that the people who are most vocally gleeful about SO'D going and saying that anyone could do better will almost certainly be the first in the queue to start slagging off the next manager (whoever it happens to be) when he does something they don't like.

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He was thanked for the effort he put in and the for the time he dedicated to it.

 

As he should be.

 

It was also clearly explained that the board have given him time - and that he got more time than other managers with better records than him.

 

In the end, the league table doesn't lie, we're in the relegation zone with a squad and a budget which should see us much higher than that, hence why the obvious decision - correctly made - is to remove the man in charge of the first team.

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Are you surprised?

 

What I find amusing is that the people who are most vocally gleeful about SO'D going and saying that anyone could do better will almost certainly be the first in the queue to start slagging off the next manager (whoever it happens to be) when he does something they don't like.

 

Would you like a bit of a broader brush?

I think we have one in the 6 miles range....

 

I am delighted he has been removed but I will give the next guy fair crack at the whip to get it right.

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From the Bristol Post : "When push came to shove, the fact certain individuals on the board found O'Driscoll difficult to work with mitigated against him being afforded more time."

I'd say it was conjecture by Andyy Stockhausen rather than fact, unless some off the record comments have been made but he's probably right.  As much as board members, it's well documented that SL struggled with having good communications with Sean.  Also, Jon Lansdown has pointedly used the word 'passion' quite a bit as a key quality for the new Head Coach.  

 

SL has always liked to have good communications with the managers whether it be GJ, KM or BT  and I was surprised to read that he still keeps in touch with Tony Pulis.   There is no doubt that SL wouldn't have had that 'matey' relationship with So'd and whilst that wouldn't be the key factor it wouldn't be helpful from So'd's perspective.

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It was probably a mistake to start this thread. I have been a bit suprised by some of the responses which have seemed a bit OTT. I would not suggest a thank you for failure and poor record, but a thankyou for at least for giving it a go which IMO he did. He tried against a background of massive belt tightening, awful PR from the club and a somewhat (to me) incomprehensible 5 Pillars strategy. He ultimately failed to deliver on the pitch and maybe had to go even if the timing is odd.

I was wrong to suggest there was no thanks, but from reading some of the responses, it seems even the little that was given was going too far for some.

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I was talking about people on here.

Well the enough as  far as I am concerned, he wasn't employed by us, he was involved in taking us down and i volved in winning hardly any games in league 1, while giving of an air of inevitability that we are crap.

 

Now I wanted him to stay, but in all intents and purposes he has done little for the club, his sacking tells you this.  So to take a team down and then to leave them in the bottom 4, after signing almost a whole new starting 11 what is there to be thankful for?  He had it coming, as far as I can see, especially as early on he made negative comments about the fans.

 

He is paid to get results while building for the future, he may started the 2nd part, he has failed at the first part, to be thankful to him?  noway, there could be a good chance the next manager comes in and gets rid of most of his signings, then where will SO'Ds legacy to us be, what will there be left to be thankful for?

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It was probably a mistake to start this thread. I have been a bit suprised by some of the responses which have seemed a bit OTT. I would not suggest a thank you for failure and poor record, but a thankyou for at least for giving it a go which IMO he did. He tried against a background of massive belt tightening, awful PR from the club and a somewhat (to me) incomprehensible 5 Pillars strategy. He ultimately failed to deliver on the pitch and maybe had to go even if the timing is odd.

I was wrong to suggest there was no thanks, but from reading some of the responses, it seems even the little that was given was going too far for some.

His job as head coach of the first team was to get results, the rest of the stuff he has a whole team doing that, that is the whole idea of the settup.  So when you take that into account, his first job first and foremost is to get the first team playing well and winning, that is his task, he doesn't even have to negotiate player contracts.  To me now he has been sacked, he has failed, and miserably.  

 

His job, okay the players he wants to sign, chose his assistent, train them employ tactics, win games

 

he signed 10 or 11 players, are they an improvement?  A few by in large no, or not yet

He chose his assistant, he buggered of, so we have his 2nd choice, so he got that wrong as well.

I'll let you contemplate if he got his tactics right, he certainly didn't win many.

 

Thankful for trying?  Everyone loves a trier!.  he quite rightly has been pilloried by some, and not by others who wanted him given more time (my camp)  But i will not be thankful for someone leaving us in our current position, if he had been given more time (which I think he should)  fine, but you can only judge on the time he was actually here

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Well the enough as  far as I am concerned, he wasn't employed by us, he was involved in taking us down and i volved in winning hardly any games in league 1, while giving of an air of inevitability that we are crap.

 

Now I wanted him to stay, but in all intents and purposes he has done little for the club, his sacking tells you this.  So to take a team down and then to leave them in the bottom 4, after signing almost a whole new starting 11 what is there to be thankful for?  He had it coming, as far as I can see, especially as early on he made negative comments about the fans.

 

He is paid to get results while building for the future, he may started the 2nd part, he has failed at the first part, to be thankful to him?  noway, there could be a good chance the next manager comes in and gets rid of most of his signings, then where will SO'Ds legacy to us be, what will there be left to be thankful for?

 

To be told by some on here to **** off and called a fraud is embarrassing. Yes it hasn't worked out and maybe it was the right decision but for god sake why do some of our so called fans have to make themselves look like idiots.

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I hope when the Lansdowns eventually leave that they get the same gratitude from the fans...

 

Along the lines of...'yep thanks for your effort and money... but you were useless at running a club... now go and find another toy to play with...and take the board with you...'

 

I don't actually want that... but thought... if you can't beat 'em join 'em... everyone else seems to have no gratitude...so hey ho! :facepalm:

 

However... on a side note...

 

Whilst the Lansdowns are in charge we will not have a strong manager, who speaks his mind and does it his way.

 

We will only have Managers who are lapdogs and are willing to work with the board and owner on their terms.

Which is a massive mistake... as they know **** all about football.

They need to let a manager come in and do his job without wanting to be 'friends' with them and wanting to interfere.

 

Coppell found this and now SoD has found it... because SL and a few on the board couldn't get along with him personally.

 

Some of our Board and owner are a joke for behaving like children.

 

They run this football club like a financial business ( no surprise there ) Looking for profit from quick fix's.

They talk the talk... like the banks and investment companies... but do the opposite.

 

As for a manager with passion... I despair. :facepalm:

 

SoD is one of the most passionate managers regarding football. He showed his passion in words and time. What other manager has spent that amount of time consulting with the fans or talking in depth about tactics and football in general?

He lives and breaths football...

 

We don't deserve a decent manager if our board and owner and certain fans can't see that.

 

If passion is only judged by body language, battle cry's, waving of arms and being loud and a 'character'... then god help us all.

 

This isn't about SoD... it could have been any manager in his place.

This is about the inept running of this Club by an owner and board that have no idea about running a club, or allowing their football managers to get on with the job in hand.

 

Someone else will come in and it will be the same old, same old... it's written on the wall.

 

Why can't people see the failure of these idiots in charge...?

 

The managers always get the blame... they can't all be rubbish...

 

All I hear from previous managers I've met are words along the lines of ' lovely friendly people...but run like an Amateur outfit'

 

I've spoken to at least 5 managers, (I won't count the caretaker) we've had, at work and social functions and they've all said the same thing...

 

The owner and board are the problem... however nice they are and however passionate and however much money they've put in, they've failed this club on the footballing front. :grr:

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