Fiale Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 Money not made available to SOD? What about Aden Flint and Marlon Pack - weren't they both 6-figure transfer fees (an amount of money that three quarters of the managers in this league would bite your arm off to spend)? What about Fielding, Williams, Wagstaff, JET, Parish, Harewood and Shorey? Did they come on zero wages? Most of the players SOD brought in have underperformed woefully. I don't buy the argument he wasn't supported financially. 46% of our wage budget being used. Our higher earners Fontaine, Kilkenny, Pearson, O'Connor, Wilson are in that figure and expected to leave as soon we can off load them. So our actual playing squad is what ? Less than 30% of our total available wage bill... Whether we agree with the amount players earn as being to high, they are proportionate to a players quality... We can say we have one of the highest paying budgets in this league, but it's a meaningless advantage if we don't use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap flinger Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 Marvin Sordell upfront anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 Marvin Sordell upfront anyone? wages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 Marvin Sordell upfront anyone? Been at the eggnog? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap flinger Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 I know all the stuff about wages but think that he is the kind of player that could make the difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i hate you butler Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 I know all the stuff about wages but think that he is the kind of player that could make the differencekevin Phillips short term? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 kevin Phillips short term? Wolves are after him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor10 Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 Wolves are after him. Not sure he would come here anyway even if they weren't after him? Would be a superb signing though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 Wolves are after him. Sounds like a nightmare ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 kevin Phillips short term? Lee Hughes . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 Lee Hughes . This place would go into meltdown if we signed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davros Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 Yeah I can't claim to be open minded about Cotterill. I know quite a bit about him and I'll leave it at that. I'd genuinely love to be wrong. In any case, bringing in six players in January is far too much change mid season in my opinion. I thought the defence he built at Cheltenham and others have been superb, I think the first thing that will happen is we will stop leaking goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydey Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 I see Wade Elliott hasn't been getting much of a look in at Birmingham since his red card a few weeks back, He'd be a good shout on loan? i know he's 35 now but i think he will do a good job. I'd also like to see us go for a couple on loan from prem teams. Chuba Akpom from Arsenal and Larnell Cole from Man United would be decent. These 2 would give us some decent attacking options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderbeans Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 Chuba akpom and larnell cole are great shouts. Bout England u19 and of the age where league one provides a good chance for them to gain experience. Quality players too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orbital Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 Centre forwards currently not getting a game in the Championship include: Gestede, Sammon, Dobbie, Fortune, Taylor-Fltcher, Tudgay. Of that list I would advocate having a look at Connor Sammon. I thought he was excellent in leading the line for Derby against us last season and would be a conplementary foil for our sniffer and his languid compadre. We seem to have a good relationship with Derby, he is out of favour and he would be a realistic target that would improve the starting 11. He does lack goals but bringing in a target man would get the best out of Baldock and allow JET to sit in his preferred role off the front. Also, it might see this turgid tactic of whacking the ball upfield only to lose it straight away because Sam isn't a target man actually bear fruit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS34Red Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 Great 6 more shit players that we will be left with once SC has gone and who the next manager will have to try to get rid of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 Sounds like a nightmare ! Hahaha. Yes it does! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 FFP Going straight out the window then No but a fair bet that 6 existing squad members do not feature in his plans so as to make room Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderbeans Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 A team based around current and possible players from this thread... ................................Federici.................................. ........osbourne...........flint................Williams.......... Moloney.............................................Cunningham .................Reid........Kelly......pack........................ .....................salmon.......baldock.......................... Subs: Bryan, Parrish, wynter, wagstaff, larnell cole, akpom, another cb. I feel jet will be sold to highest bidder in jan and forest are looking for a striker of his type. I also think fielding will be sold and someone mentioned federici who would be a good loan signing. Salmon would also be a great foil for baldock as suggested but he can also score himself. Would be good signing. Looking forward to kelly coming back as he will provide the steel in midfield and I think wynter will be his understudy. I have a feeling 3-5-2 is a preferred formation for us and will work if we can utilise the wide positions with wingers or wing backs. More crosses into the box for potential striker salmon would create more chances. I think we need to think of looking for success without jet as he won't be here long term and he makes is too one dimensional. Sorry of I upset people suggesting this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman Block B Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 Who's funding these signings, Nick J? Father Christmas (The Guersey version ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 SC is hoping to bring in six new players during January, talks with some of them have already started. I don't know if any have to leave to make this happen but l guess there will be departures. Shocking piece of management to be honest announcing there will be "big changes" halfway through a season. Especially with many youngsters - hardly a confidence booster. I don't disagree we need a few players (not sure about 6) but to go public with it is daft. But has he, kid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 But has he, kid? It's a question I've asked a couple of times in this thread RR, but nobody can provide a link. I've tried google with no success. Still, it's gives people something else to moan about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted December 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 SC was at the Senior Reds Christmas dinner when he said he would be looking to bring in six players during January and that talks had already begun with some of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 SC was at the Senior Reds Christmas dinner when he said he would be looking to bring in six players during January and that talks had already begun with some of them. Cheers for the info. Good to see he's already got irons in the fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 Cheers for the info. Good to see he's already got irons in the fire. Question is, are we talking Scunny or West Ham? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 Question is, are we talking Scunny or West Ham? I don't care if they come from Iron Acton if they help us get out of trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 I don't care if they come from Iron Acton if they help us get out of trouble. You're wasting your time - they don't get irony on this forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheshire_red Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 You're wasting your time - they don't get irony on this forum Groan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 I see Wade Elliott hasn't been getting much of a look in at Birmingham since his red card a few weeks back, He'd be a good shout on loan? i know he's 35 now but i think he will do a good job. I'd also like to see us go for a couple on loan from prem teams. Chuba Akpom from Arsenal and Larnell Cole from Man United would be decent. These 2 would give us some decent attacking options. I understand that we were interested in Chuba Akpom in the summer, after the Assombalonga interest died down. Whether that can be kick-started again I don't know? In January, I'd be looking at some of the players who will be out of contract in June 2014, we might be able to get a couple of them cheaper than we would've last summer. Not saying we have a chance at any of these, but here's a list of some good players in Leagues 1 & 2 who are Out of Contract this season : GK : Mark Gillespie - Carlisle, Scott Flinders - Hartlepool LB : Scott Laird - Preston, Ben Purrington - Plymouth RB : Stephen Darby - Bradford, Shaleum Logan - Brentford, Lloyd James - Orient, Ryan Jackson - Newport, Joe Rafferty - Rochdale CB : Mark Connolly - Crawley, Scot Bennett - Exeter, Jack Baldwin - Hartlepool, Curtis Nelson - Plymouth CM : Nathan Doyle - Bradford, Stephen Gleeson - MK, James Wallace - Tranmere, Matt Palmer - Burton, Matt Grimes - Exeter AM/Wing : Luke Freeman - Stevenage, Frank Moussa - Coventry, Nicky Adams - Crawley, Romaine Sawyers - Walsall, Jay O'Shea - Chesterfield ST : Max Clayton - Crewe, Jonson Clarke-Harris - Oldham, Kieran Agard - Rotherham, Shay McCartan - Accrington, Luke James - Hartlepool, Jack Redshaw - Morecombe, Matt Lecointe - Plymouth, Mitchell Pinnock - Southend That'd be my shortlist to work through. I'd be very interested to see a team of : Gillespie Rafferty - Bennett - Baldwin - Purrington Adams - Gleeson - Wallace - Freeman James - Redshaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fodbarmyarmy Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 Father Christmas (The Guersey version ) But according to many he has to go ........ not until he drops a wad down the chimney tonight aparently... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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