Aizoon Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 This is in response to thread http://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?/topic/160285-drunk-fans/ about stewards pulling a man with a metal plate in his ankle out of the queue and making him walk up and down to prove he was sober. A few random examples of repression that didn't exist 20 years ago. If a Jobsworth in a high-vis jacket picks on you at random, you do what he says and don't talk back, or he'll be on the walkie-talkie to the police. You'll end up with a life ban and/or a criminal record. Under-25's have to carry ID if they fancy a drink. Punters have to stand in the rain if they fancy a smoke. Cannabis has been promoted to Class B drug, despite it being the relaxant of choice for thousands. If you're talking about a man on TV or radio, you have to call him 'a person'. Oddly, it's still OK to talk about 'a woman'. Old texts are actually 'improved' when quoted in the media. There's a steady increase in the number of miserable old bu99ers like myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screech Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 When governments start clamping down on the way I view my porn, then that is a step too far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tins Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 This is in response to thread http://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?/topic/160285-drunk-fans/ about stewards pulling a man with a metal plate in his ankle out of the queue and making him walk up and down to prove he was sober. A few random examples of repression that didn't exist 20 years ago. If a Jobsworth in a high-vis jacket picks on you at random, you do what he says and don't talk back, or he'll be on the walkie-talkie to the police. You'll end up with a life ban and/or a criminal record. Under-25's have to carry ID if they fancy a drink. Punters have to stand in the rain if they fancy a smoke. Cannabis has been promoted to Class B drug, despite it being the relaxant of choice for thousands. If you're talking about a man on TV or radio, you have to call him 'a person'. Oddly, it's still OK to talk about 'a woman'. Old texts are actually 'improved' when quoted in the media. There's a steady increase in the number of miserable old bu99ers like myself. How you can moan about under-25's needing ID, a people not being allowed to smoke inside, I'll never know!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 There's a steady increase in the number of miserable old bu99ers like myself.Well there's at least 2 of us anyway Aiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted January 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 How you can moan about under-25's needing ID, a people not being allowed to smoke inside, I'll never know!! Because that's how the Government gets people used to having to carry ID. One a generation has got used to compulsory ID, it'll be easy to impose it on everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezgimed Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Second hand smoke is harmful and cannabis is very dangerous for those susceptible to mental health issues (and you may never know unless you have a puff) so I fail to see how you can argue against the actions against these! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted January 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Well there's at least 2 of us anyway Aiz At least, Tone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tins Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Because that's how the Government gets people used to having to carry ID. One a generation has got used to compulsory ID, it'll be easy to impose it on everyone. It's only compulsory to stop under age kids drinking! Alcohol is addictive and very dangerous in the wrong hands, so how is it a bad thing by stopping younger people illegally abusing it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Second hand smoke is harmful and cannabis is very dangerous for those susceptible to mental health issues (and you may never know unless you have a puff) so I fail to see how you can argue against the actions against these! So is alcohol, but you don't ban that. Prohibition is a failed policy. Education/controlled sale is more sensible IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tins Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 So is alcohol, but you don't ban that. Prohibition is a failed policy. Education/controlled sale is more sensible IMO. There is no such thing as second hand alcohol is there..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezgimed Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 So is alcohol, but you don't ban that. Prohibition is a failed policy. Education/controlled sale is more sensible IMO. I couldn't give two shits if they did make alcohol a class B drug, that isn't in the OP's post. The smoke thing is forced onto others against their will so glad they have to go outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 How you can moan about under-25's needing ID, a people not being allowed to smoke inside, I'll never know!! Why should U25's need ID ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tins Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Why should U25's need ID ? To prove they are of the legal age to drink, smoke etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_Lemon Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 A revolution is in the works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 I couldn't give two shits if they did make alcohol a class B drug, that isn't in the OP's post. The smoke thing is forced onto others against their will so glad they have to go outside. I wasn't on about smoking on public, I was talking about drugs policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Mosquito Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 There is no such thing as second hand alcohol is there..... ....second hand alcohol often ends up splattered on pavements along with peas and bits of carrot etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezgimed Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 I wasn't on about smoking on public, I was talking about drugs policy. And I answered, couldnt give a shit. Wasnt part of the original debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 There is no such thing as second hand alcohol is there..... I dunno Tins, I think you'll running down the walls of alleys and underpasses of central Bristol every Friday and Saturday night. EDIT: RG got there first! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted January 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 You'll notice that all the posters in favour of repression agree that it's all for our own good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezgimed Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 You'll notice that all the posters in favour of repression agree that it's all for our own good... In favour of repression or just tackling two idiotic comments in particular? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted January 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 In favour of repression or just tackling two idiotic comments in particular? In favour of repression. I take your gratuitous rudeness as a matter of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezgimed Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 In favour of repression. I take your gratuitous rudeness as a matter of course. Who is in favour of blanket repression, please do let us know??! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBibs Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Glad smokers have to go outside. Up to them if they want to stink but I like having the choice of staying inside if I don't want to smell like an ashtray or going outside with them if I do. Wasn't aware that I need to refer to a man on TV or radio as a person. Some changes are for the better in my opinion, others not so. When I see old programmes and the way men were allowed to speak to women etc I find it totally cringeworthy. If more repressive means catching more paedophiles that's a good thing imo. Overall, things are much the same imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Mosquito Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 I dunno Tins, I think you'll running down the walls of alleys and underpasses of central Bristol every Friday and Saturday night. EDIT: RG got there first! ....there always seems to be peas or bits of carrot amongst the splatter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 ....there always seems to be peas or bits of carrot amongst the splatter. A mystery of life, Gobbers. Especially from those who don't eat carrots! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 To prove they are of the legal age to drink, smoke etc. Haven't been out much lately but isn't that 18 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 There is no such thing as second hand alcohol is there.....It's called Urine.......aka Fosters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted January 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Glad smokers have to go outside. Up to them if they want to stink but I like having the choice of staying inside if I don't want to smell like an ashtray or going outside with them if I do. Wasn't aware that I need to refer to a man on TV or radio as a person. Some changes are for the better in my opinion, others not so. When I see old programmes and the way men were allowed to speak to women etc I find it totally cringeworthy. If more repressive means catching more paedophiles that's a good thing imo. Overall, things are much the same imo. Watch the BBC a little more closely - you'll find quotes from pre-PC days edited to exclude the M word. Curiously, the W-word seems to be OK... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Bugger....had typed out a response but phone lost it. short version, the state is more intrusive and state interference and taxation will only increase. "Fatty food" will be the next target. smoking ban did unrecoverable harm to the pub industry but has made them and bars/clubs nicer environments. Price worth paying? Under 25 scheme has undoubtedly led to a fall in anti social behaviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tins Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Haven't been out much lately but isn't that 18 ? Yes but people who are 18, especially girls, can put on some make up and look 23/24. Therefore if you LOOK (not are), under 25, then you will be I.D'd to make sure you are over 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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