dezgimed Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 What is the U25 ID thing?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Yes but people who are 18, especially girls, can put on some make up and look 23/24. Therefore if you LOOK (not are), under 25, then you will be I.D'd to make sure you are over 18. Don't get this at all ! eg. why 25 and is there a special form of ID ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screech Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 This can only really be answered by older people. If you are in your early 20's you wont know any different and it will look like another rant by older people about how shit the world has become since you were a lad. I'm 40 and a lot of things that I knew just 20 years ago have changed for the worse, recent things like a rise in pensionable age half way through a supposed working life really pisses me off. Unfortunately the 1% who do control the way the world works has you and me arguing and battling over who is a drain on society, while they take all the best bits for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Mosquito Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 I'm 40 and a lot of things that I knew just 20 years ago have changed for the worse, recent things like a rise in pensionable age half way through a supposed working life really pisses me off. My work colleague is retiring this October at age 65. At age 48 I can't now retire until I'm 67 for state pension. Yes, things are getting worse in the world of work. The young generation of indigenous Englishmen and women now have to compete with Eastern European Unionists in the job market and also compete for the limited amount of social housing that is available where newly arrived immigrants get priority. In the meantime, the traitor Lib-Lab-Con political elitists are able to milk the EU for all it's worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted January 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Don't get this at all ! eg. why 25 and is there a special form of ID ? To catch anybody who might look older than there real age and, yes, there is a special form of ID, although they'll accept passports or driving licences. If anybody had told me, when I was that age, the people would have to carry a passport to get served in this country, I'd have told them to pull the other one. It's true now though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted January 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Bugger....had typed out a response but phone lost it. short version, the state is more intrusive and state interference and taxation will only increase. "Fatty food" will be the next target. smoking ban did unrecoverable harm to the pub industry but has made them and bars/clubs nicer environments. Price worth paying?Under 25 scheme has undoubtedly led to a fall in anti social behaviour. No it hasn't. Kids get their older mates to buy supermarket booze and they swig it on street corners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezgimed Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 This can only really be answered by older people. If you are in your early 20's you wont know any different and it will look like another rant by older people about how shit the world has become since you were a lad. I'm 40 and a lot of things that I knew just 20 years ago have changed for the worse, recent things like a rise in pensionable age half way through a supposed working life really pisses me off. Unfortunately the 1% who do control the way the world works has you and me arguing and battling over who is a drain on society, while they take all the best bits for themselves. I'm more later than early 20's but I don't think age really matters with regards to the smoking thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screech Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 I'm more later than early 20's but I don't think age really matters with regards to the smoking thing. It was aimed more at the title of the thread. It's bound to be aimed more at older people than yourself for example. The smoking thing, well having been in pubs which had smokers inside and being a non smoker, I can honestly say I never really noticed the smoke. But, waking up next day you could find the previous nights clothes by smell alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich_s Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 There is no such thing as second hand alcohol is there..... I used to see plenty of second-hand alcohol pebble dashed around the bus shelters of Bristol Uni of an evening. Typically accompanied by a kebab. Edit: After reading the whole thread it seems I'm rather late to the party with the above comment. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezgimed Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 It was aimed more at the title of the thread. It's bound to be aimed more at older people than yourself for example. The smoking thing, well having been in pubs which had smokers inside and being a non smoker, I can honestly say I never really noticed the smoke. But, waking up next day you could find the previous nights clothes by smell alone. I remember the smoking in pub days and tbh you get used to the general stale smell of it as part of the decor but its the smoke right in your face when the person next to you sparks up that used to piss me off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich_s Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 This is in response to thread http://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?/topic/160285-drunk-fans/ about stewards pulling a man with a metal plate in his ankle out of the queue and making him walk up and down to prove he was sober. A few random examples of repression that didn't exist 20 years ago. If a Jobsworth in a high-vis jacket picks on you at random, you do what he says and don't talk back, or he'll be on the walkie-talkie to the police. You'll end up with a life ban and/or a criminal record. Under-25's have to carry ID if they fancy a drink. Punters have to stand in the rain if they fancy a smoke. Cannabis has been promoted to Class B drug, despite it being the relaxant of choice for thousands. If you're talking about a man on TV or radio, you have to call him 'a person'. Oddly, it's still OK to talk about 'a woman'. Old texts are actually 'improved' when quoted in the media. There's a steady increase in the number of miserable old bu99ers like myself. With specific regard to AG it's become way more repressive this season. Week after week I watch people being patted down whilst entering the EE. Searches of bags used to be the norm but younger people are routinely patted down on both the EE and Dolman enter entrances. Personally I don't understand flag waving but it seems that this year it has become a problem of note. The biggest issue for me is that originally posted by Phantom and referred to here by Aizoon. It appears that people are being randomly selected and asked to walk in a straight line to prove they are not drunk. It's demeaning and really pushing the boundaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
You Do The Dziekanowski Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Don't get this at all ! eg. why 25 and is there a special form of ID ? It's just a higher number than 18 really, Used to be 21 but the people who try to catch supermarkets out or make sure they don't sell to underage customers found that a 16 year old can change their appearance to look over 21 As the person selling you have to guess how old they look, If they look under 25 you ask them for ID (usual ID is fine) If a supermarket sells to a minor they get a hefty fine and can lose their licence to sell alcohol and cigarettes, So the look 25 is just a safety blanket for businesses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tins Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Bugger....had typed out a response but phone lost it. short version, the state is more intrusive and state interference and taxation will only increase. "Fatty food" will be the next target. smoking ban did unrecoverable harm to the pub industry but has made them and bars/clubs nicer environments. Price worth paying? Under 25 scheme has undoubtedly led to a fall in anti social behaviour. It's not about being "nice" it's about health. Why should I inhale smoke and damage my lungs because of someone else? Fair enough drinking, but that's a choice, I had no choice when people could smoke right next to me in pubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokey Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 cannabis should be made legal, its less harmful than alcohol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 It's not about being "nice" it's about health. Why should I inhale smoke and damage my lungs because of someone else? Fair enough drinking, but that's a choice, I had no choice when people could smoke right next to me in pubs. It was your choice to go in those places. There clearly wasn't a market for non smoking venues as there was only one that I knew of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted January 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 It was your choice to go in those places. There clearly wasn't a market for non smoking venues as there was only one that I knew of. Remember all those anti-smokers who were going to come back to the pubs when smoking was banned? Did they come back? I haven't seen them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slacker Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Most people can't afford to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezgimed Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 cannabis should be made legal, its less harmful than alcohol You shouldn't present an opinion like it is fact, unless you have done substantial research into the area. In my opinion from anecdotal evidence, it can be very dangerous when used by the wrong people. Not to mention every 'stoner' I grew up with is now a braindead ****tard wasting their life on the dole watching Jeremy Kyle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted January 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 You shouldn't present an opinion like it is fact, unless you have done substantial research into the area. In my opinion from anecdotal evidence, it can be very dangerous when used by the wrong people. Not to mention every 'stoner' I grew up with is now a braindead ****tard wasting their life on the dole watching Jeremy Kyle. Indeed. As are probably all the alkies you grew up with. I know moderate users of either drug who have done very nicely thank you - including myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted January 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Most people can't afford to. That's one of the great achievements of modern Britain - putting pubs and football out of the reach of those on low incomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 You shouldn't present an opinion like it is fact, unless you have done substantial research into the area. In my opinion from anecdotal evidence, it can be very dangerous when used by the wrong people. Not to mention every 'stoner' I grew up with is now a braindead ****tard wasting their life on the dole watching Jeremy Kyle. You say don't present anecdote as fact, then you present an anecdote. The guy who was the most notorious "stoner" in my college is now chief operations manager of the UK branch of a huge American technology corporation.. His best mate - also known to inhale frequently - is a professor and considered the leading expert in his particular field of medicine, so I don't think you can generalise. I've no doubt it can harm some folks - there's a cancer risk apart from anything, but so does alcohol, yet that's legal. As my earlier post said, a prohibition policy isn't working and the only people who benefit from such an approach are major league criminals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezgimed Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Indeed. As are probably all the alkies you grew up with. I know moderate users of either drug who have done very nicely thank you - including myself. Says the bloke posting about hedgehogs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davros Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 ....second hand alcohol often ends up splattered on pavements along with peas and bits of carrot etc. second hand smoke is normally a punch in the face.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted January 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Says the bloke posting about hedgehogs... At least I don't drink or smoke them PS And at least I've done well enough to retire with my hedgehogs while others still labour in the COBOL mines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezgimed Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 At least I don't drink or smoke them PS And at least I've done well enough to retire with my hedgehogs while others still labour in the COBOL mines. I didn't sleep well and was up at 5.30am this morning for my first day back since 19th Dec. Please refrain from rubbing your retirement in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted January 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 I didn't sleep well and was up at 5.30am this morning for my first day back since 19th Dec. Please refrain from rubbing your retirement in! I feel your pain No I don't, really - ner, ner, ner, ner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezgimed Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 I feel your pain No I don't, really - ner, ner, ner, ner Hopefully I'll be retired/self sufficient in 10 years or so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted January 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Hopefully I'll be retired/self sufficient in 10 years or so... My wife reckons her retirement date retreats 18 months for every year she gets older One more thing to dislike about today... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Hopefully I'll be retired/self sufficient in 10 years or so... Rent boys earn that much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted January 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Rent boys earn that much? I don't know. Tell me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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