Welcome To The Jungle Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152848289297788&set=vb.290882237787&type=2&theater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 **** me there's some belters on the the comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 Unbelievable, the guy is letting his opinion of football fans get in the way of the facts that is, it would make it much safer. I agree with the title, idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwegian Red Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 You can mock the man, but the idea of issuing shin-pads to spectators entering all-seater stadia is innovative, solution-focussed and worthy of serious consideration. Listen up, football authorities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dollymarie Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 It's almost like he wants to argue against it just to be different. The muppet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 Leroy in talking shit shocker. This has nothing to do with his son at all, oh no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted March 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 It's almost like he wants to argue against it just to be different. The muppet. I can't think of one pundit who has given this a complete backing. Plenty are on the fence and plenty are against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 Incredible. Love that he's wearing a suit too hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 Torquay manager? Wasn't he there a few seconds longer than it takes to unlock a rail seat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cider red Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 His points are invalid. He's the one living in the past. Standing didn't cause the Hillsborough disaster, people can't fall into one another due to the barriers. Clueless moron leroy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwegian Red Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 What might be helpful is if people that have hurt or injured any part of their anatomy other than their shins on the back of a seat in an all seater football stadium could come forward and make themselves known. So that appropriate protective equipment for different body parts can be issued to fans on entering all-seater stadia. For example, along with Leroy's suggested shin pads, we could kit fans out with skateboarders elbow and knee protectors, cricketers batting gloves, thigh pads and 'abdominal' protectors, gridiron helmets and shoulder pads, rugby buggers gum shields, and so on. Or just be done with it and ask people to come to football dressed up for 90 minutes of ice hockey. No-one will be admitted to an all-seater stadium without the full Wayne Gretzky. It might become known as "Leroy's Law." They'll have to make the turnstiles and the seats bigger at the revamped AG though. And the bogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 Did he actually give a proper reason against them or is it that it is a metal railing his whole argument. Incredible people like him have their opinion reach so many others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 The fact he's named as the former Torquay manager.. for 10 minutes.. As for his argument, yeah if people surge forward in a standing area someone will whack their head on the metal bar, but to say it's less safer than sitting is nonsensical, I remember Sheffield United away when we had to win to stay in the promotion race in 2008, we scored and then all the idiots behind surged forward.. someone had to be taken to hospital for smacking their head on the floor.. Is that safe to you Leroy?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 From a health and safety perspective, something is either safe or unsafe. It makes no sense to say a structure is safe for one type of fan (rugby) and unsafe for another (football). He also choses to miss the point that in many grounds, fans actually are standing in seating areas, which is clearly more dangerous than the proposed safe standing areas. This all just panders to the 'football fans are unlike normal human beings' rubbish, so beloved of '80s politicians. If I was of a mood, I would construct a much longer argument showing it was this sterotyping that was much more behind the tragedy of Hillsborough (and the outrageous cover up that then emerged) by allowing fans to be caged in like animals, rather than standing up per se. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_bristol Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 absolutely clueless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
You Do The Dziekanowski Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 What a twonk!! He says it like every seat will be torn up and replaced by Safe Standing. A block of safe standing won't put a family off going!! He infuriates me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 At last a topic we can all agree on, surely there won't be a dissenter on this one ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 Torquay manager? Wasn't he there a few seconds longer than it takes to unlock a rail seat? Brilliant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 I can't think of one pundit who has given this a complete backing. Plenty are on the fence and plenty are against it. I'm just wondering how many of them attend matches as a fan? I bet most are guests of the clubs they visit, corporate hospitality, best seats etc. If they had to find a parking space like a fan, sort out tickets and pay for them, queue to get in, queue for food, toilets etc, be emotionally involved like a fan... I would think their experience of what they want,and what they expect,from a football match might be very different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin1988 Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Amazing how he criticises everyone for not giving adequate reasons why it's safe (which they have) and then has nothing to back up any of his points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 From a health and safety perspective, something is either safe or unsafe. It makes no sense to say a structure is safe for one type of fan (rugby) and unsafe for another (football). He also choses to miss the point that in many grounds, fans actually are standing in seating areas, which is clearly more dangerous than the proposed safe standing areas. This all just panders to the 'football fans are unlike normal human beings' rubbish, so beloved of '80s politicians. If I was of a mood, I would construct a much longer argument showing it was this sterotyping that was much more behind the tragedy of Hillsborough (and the outrageous cover up that then emerged) by allowing fans to be caged in like animals, rather than standing up per se. Right on the ball, sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 I'm just wondering how many of them attend matches as a fan? I bet most are guests of the clubs they visit, corporate hospitality, best seats etc. If they had to find a parking space like a fan, sort out tickets and pay for them, queue to get in, queue for food, toilets etc, be emotionally involved like a fan... I would think their experience of what they want,and what they expect,from a football match might be very different. I think the only pro footballer I remember standing on the terraces was Chris Garland at the old Open End, more years ago than I care to think about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoke_Gifford_Red Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Seats as opposed to terraces become even more dangerous when people stand on them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTR Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Sit down if you want to stand Sit down if you want to stand Sit down if you want to stand Sit down if you want to stand Oh hang on........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 The likes-to-comments ratio says it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Leroy is a simpleton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screech Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 I've done my best to just remember him for the good he did as a player when he was here, but this, makes it easy to eliminate him from my memory. What an absolute bellend he has become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChubStixx Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 I disagree with him completely. Some fans want to stand. Introducing rail seats is a safe and effective way of doing this in my opinion. On the otherhand, just because Leroy has a different opinion it doesn't make him an idiot, moron etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1t_ref_again Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 As someone who has had a season ticket for 30 years and supported for many years before that standing in the enclosure, I would not want to be sat in an area with these seats. The problem being if every body wants to stand then fine, in which case you may as well have just a rail, but if I want to sit down and bobby fat boy on either side of me want to stand, then they are likely to stand and lean forward onto the rail in front (not just lean against the back), this would mean my view would be obscured of most of the pitch. Therefore do not see how you can mix standing and seating in the same area. Not against standing and agree where fans are standing in seated areas this is much more dangerous, but not convinced of this solution. Also will be interesting impact on capacity as the pitch of the terrace will need to be step to allow someone seated to look over them, particularly if the standing person is 6' plus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwegian Red Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 He's got dodgy knees (remember how he ran?), he likes to sit down now, leave him be! And he needs the media work, and has worked out that ill-thought out, potty opinions that are at odds with current thinking get you noticed. And more media work. We don't need to get so upset because he's against "our" safe-standing. Safe-standing happening is not going to hinge on Leroy's support. He's okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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