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054123 Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 No. I dont any City fans who think we are. We are a second divisiob club we the potential to be Stoke, Forest etc. Rovers fans like to think we say we are but wthe truth is we dont. One of my mates is a Leicester fan and he was banging on recently how they were a bigfer club than city. I couldnt make him see that actually we are probably about the same. If Bristol had historically been a 1 club city then I have no doubt that club would have been huge and far more succesful has a lot of these 'big' clubs made their hay in the list war era up go the 80s. Its about knowing and understanding you are. For what its worth, we dwarf Rotherham in every way I can think of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talk Of The Town Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 ******* huge!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderingred Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 No chance. Never have been, never will be. The gas like to think we believe we are... In reality we just think we are bigger than them - which we undoubtably are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sglosbcfc Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 I think it depends on the division we are playing in - Premiership - we'd be a small club Championship - we are an average sized club League One - we are a big club League Two - how could I put it, it would be like we were the 'Barcelona of League Two' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBibs Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 Definite no for me. Even when we were near the top of the Championship we rarely filled a ground with a capacity of less than 20,000. At least Rovers are a big 'Away' club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Cloud Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 The Gash insist on calling us "Big" purely because it helps justify their own failings - don't know a single City fan that think's we're big! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forza Revolution Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 Were a big city that should have a big club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 We are a big club...wait what day is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 We should be, given our demographic, but we're not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 Some of the contradictions in peoples posts on this thread are laughable. I would say that we are a big city club, but not a big club city. Potential is there, no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 No. We are the worst city for football in England (population to standard of team(s) ratio) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 Bigger than Barcelona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillzider Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 No we certainly are not a big club.But we certainly are a club with big potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manon Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 You only have to look at Forest, who at one time were the best in the world, and see where they are now. Not entirely sure what you mean by this...? Surely this is a bit of a one-off, but is proof that football tables of success are far from set in stone. I doubt Man city would have dared to believe fifteen years ago, that they would usurp their great neighbours, winning the league, playing in the champs league in a new (soon to be) 62,000 stadium. I grew up at a time when liverpool were king. I can vividly remember thinking they would always be there at the top; anything else was unimaginable. Yet fall they did. Now we are seeing the same with Man utd. The younger fans are so used to success that they believe it is their right, which is why they are so disgruntled and we are seeing such stupid (pathetic imo) things a planes flying banners over the ground because they are ONLY 7th, and ONLY in the quarters of the champs league! God I hate that vile club and their pampered self obsessed supporters. Now I'm not saying there is the possibility that city could become man city. But I'm sure we could one day compete for a champs league place. Why not? Swansea are in europe. To answer the original question - let's create seven categories to make it easier: 1. Huge 2. Big 3. Medium-big 4. Medium 5. Medium-small 6. Small 7. Tin pot Historically, I would put us in number 3, some would say 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 You'd put us number 3?I What the fudge??! Here is how I would class these catagories based on an average of the last 20-30 years: 1. Huge - Man Utd, Liverpool, Man City, Arsenal, Chelski 2. Big - Spurs, Everton, Villa, Newcastle 3. Medium-big - West Ham, Leeds, Forest, Blackburn 4. Medium - Leicester, Fulham, Birmingham, Charlton, Ipswich, Wolves 5. Medium-small - Barnsley, Reading, Us 6. Small - Rotherham, Orient, Crewe 7. Tin pot - The Gash Obviously these are arguable and some could be a category higher or lower depending on your point of view, but I'd put us in number 5 or possibly 6. The teams I have mentioned in number 5 have both player in the premier league! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manon Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 I said historically, meaning entire history, not last 20-30 years. I based it not only on silverware, but also on league/tier averages, fan base, and attendances (average & record). Maybe when I get the time (retired?!) I'll write it all up properly, including every club. Like I said, there.s a very strong case to put us in pot 4, but the fact that bristol is a big city, and we are a club with greater potential than many others in pot 4, I'd suggest imo we could edge a 3;-) Ok. sod it. I'm biased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 Living away from Bristol gives you a real perspective on how we are seen in the footballing world. We are not even on the map. Sadly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 I said historically, meaning entire history, not last 20-30 years. I based it not only on silverware, but also on league/tier averages, fan base, and attendances (average & record). Maybe when I get the time (retired?!) I'll write it all up properly, including every club. Like I said, there.s a very strong case to put us in pot 4, but the fact that bristol is a big city, and we are a club with greater potential than many others in pot 4, I'd suggest imo we could edge a 3;-) Ok. sod it. I'm biased. Do you disagree with any of the clubs I have in category 3? If so you think we are as big as them??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talk Of The Town Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 Living away from Bristol gives you a real perspective on how we are seen in the footballing world. We are not even on the map. Sadly... Indeed. It's why we're often known as ' Bristol ' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 Indeed. It's why we're often known as ' Bristol ' I think Rovers have as much to do with that as we do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodburyred Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 Living away from Bristol gives you a real perspective on how we are seen in the footballing world. We are not even on the map. Sadly... Lots of different opinions out there though. I had hospitality at Old Trafford a few years back and a few Mancs/ ex players were of the opinion "Bristol" as they referred us as was majorly under performing and should be in and around the prem for the size of City and club we are. FWIW I'd put us at a 3/4 in that list ,the only teams "bigger" than us mentioned are Wolves, Leeds and West Ham and they should all be in pot 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 Lots of different opinions out there though. I had hospitality at Old Trafford a few years back and a few Mancs/ ex players were of the opinion "Bristol" as they referred us as was majorly under performing and should be in and around the prem for the size of City and club we are. FWIW I'd put us at a 3/4 in that list ,the only teams "bigger" than us mentioned are Wolves, Leeds and West Ham and they should all be in pot 2. I live in Manchester and I suspect they were only humouring you. When we got to the play off final against Hull they genuinely were upset at the thought of a team like Hull or 'Bristol' getting in the premier league and making the league look crap. Yes we joke about there only being one team in Bristol but, would anyone refer to either of the Sheffield clubs as just Sheffield? Shows how little attention comes our way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 Not entirely sure what you mean by this...? Surely this is a bit of a one-off, but is proof that football tables of success are far from set in stone. I doubt Man city would have dared to believe fifteen years ago, that they would usurp their great neighbours, winning the league, playing in the champs league in a new (soon to be) 62,000 stadium. I grew up at a time when liverpool were king. I can vividly remember thinking they would always be there at the top; anything else was unimaginable. Yet fall they did. Now we are seeing the same with Man utd. The younger fans are so used to success that they believe it is their right, which is why they are so disgruntled and we are seeing such stupid (pathetic imo) things a planes flying banners over the ground because they are ONLY 7th, and ONLY in the quarters of the champs league! God I hate that vile club and their pampered self obsessed supporters. Now I'm not saying there is the possibility that city could become man city. But I'm sure we could one day compete for a champs league place. Why not? Swansea are in europe. To answer the original question - let's create seven categories to make it easier: 1. Huge 2. Big 3. Medium-big 4. Medium 5. Medium-small 6. Small 7. Tin pot Historically, I would put us in number 3, some would say 4. For me I would put us on number 4. Huge - Man United, Liverpool Big - Villa, Everton, Spurs Medium-Big - Forest, Blackburn, Derby Wolves Medium - Watford, Charlton, Us, Medium Small - Doncaster, Bournemouth, Brentford Tinpot - Fleetwood, Gas, Torquay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 I would say our situation is fairly unique - the only big city in England to have achieved absolutely nothing in our history. Potential to have good attendances remains with a great catchment area. Takes sustained success to achieve sustained support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 For me I would put us on number 4. Huge - Man United, Liverpool Big - Villa, Everton, Spurs Medium-Big - Forest, Blackburn, Derby Wolves Medium - Watford, Charlton, Us, Medium Small - Doncaster, Bournemouth, Brentford Tinpot - Fleetwood, Gas, Torquay You're missing a category there! Also I'd bet a lot of money that Watford and Charlton would get mentioned a lot higher in people's list of top clubs in England than we would. Sadly potential fan base counts for nothing and it shows what a crap job as a whole the club has done over the years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodburyred Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 I live in Manchester and I suspect they were only humouring you. When we got to the play off final against Hull they genuinely were upset at the thought of a team like Hull or 'Bristol' getting in the premier league and making the league look crap. Yes we joke about there only being one team in Bristol but, would anyone refer to either of the Sheffield clubs as just Sheffield? Shows how little attention comes our way. Perhaps. Didn't come across that way though. Also seemed fairly knowledgeable on the club and management. I'd say your mixing with the football fans if they genuinely had that attitude. Newcastle and Wolves to name a few said they loved coming to Bristol when playing us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ispep Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 Bigger than Barcelona. The word i would use is massive.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 It's quite exciting because it could all take off after a few successful seasons or cup success. That's all it needs! Look at Brighton for example, they were tinpot at the Goldstone stadium, they've had a few good seasons, new stadium and are now averaging 25k in the Championship! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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