Murraysrightplum Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 It's quite exciting because it could all take off after a few successful seasons or cup success. That's all it needs! Look at Brighton for example, they were tinpot at the Goldstone stadium, they've had a few good seasons, new stadium and are now averaging 25k in the Championship! We've been saying that for 30 years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 We've been saying that for 30 years! Look mate, have a little faith. It's bloody hard I know but I think a new Ashton Gate can make a start towards taking off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 Perhaps. Didn't come across that way though. Also seemed fairly knowledgeable on the club and management. I'd say your mixing with the football fans if they genuinely had that attitude. Newcastle and Wolves to name a few said they loved coming to Bristol when playing us. Well yes they live in the premier league bubble but I have mates who support all sorts of teams from the prem right down to the conference. I agree that if we got into the premier league and stayed there a few years then it could all be very different but we were/are very nearly in league 2! We are a million miles away. Having a local government who don't give a flying fart about the club or fans doesn't help as well as (IMO) poor running of the club at board level. I wish it wasn't the case but it is all very different from the outside looking in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timothy bird Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 Theirs a small amount of genuinely big clubs, a few very small clubs, and the rest are in the middle, that's where we are ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 The word i would use is massive.. In comparison . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AlwaysARed Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 I'd say we are a West Brom, not big but not really small either, just an average sized football club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 It always amazes me how well Blackburn, Bolton, Wigan and Reading have done considering their catchment area... and competition from Clubs nearer them. With the right owners, board and management, this Club has potential, but until that changes I think we'll be following the path of our history...however good their intentions are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 It always amazes me how well Blackburn, Bolton, Wigan and Reading have done considering their catchment area... and competition from Clubs nearer them. With the right owners, board and management, this Club has potential, but until that changes I think we'll be following the path of our history...however good their intentions are. Wigan do shyte considering the borough has a population of 318,000 (yes, I just looked that up!) Rugby League's bigger than football there. I take your point on Bolton though. Proud history/family traditions I suppose. Bristol has a very decent population, but a lot of people in the city were not born there. It has seen the biggest population influx of any major urban area outside London and it shows in many ways -the Ashton Vale farrago being but one. Getting these newcomers (and their children) engaged with the club is the big challenge. And to be honest, the only way that's going to happen is by prolonged success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 Clearly we're not a big club now but I really do hope the stadium redevelopment is a watershed for the club and the city. I hate the term, but it should make the whole "product" so much more appealing to the casual supporter. I was watching Swansea (I went to uni there) at the decrepit Vetch in League 2 with crowds of 2,000. Their attendances are more than 10x that now and there can be no doubt the new stadium was a big factor in their success. Few would have predicted in 2004 how big they would become a decade later, and even better whilst making a profit year-on-year. There is no reason why we can't do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 Interesting the views the season after we got to the play off final. People were moaning about the bandwagon fans and them not being proper supporters. I don't know how the fans expect the club to grow without bringing in new blood, especially off the back of success. Some people are stuck in their ways and can't accept change I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 Interesting the views the season after we got to the play off final. People were moaning about the bandwagon fans and them not being proper supporters. I don't know how the fans expect the club to grow without bringing in new blood, especially off the back of success. Some people are stuck in their ways and can't accept change I guess. Good point plum. Also I believe that our play-off final continues to hold the attendance record, despite apparently "bigger" clubs appearing since, which just goes to show the potential is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwegian Red Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 BIG = Bristol Isn't Gas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ten minutes of rough Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 Lower Middle or Middle Middle, hard to know really, anyway what is for sure we are a big city with a small club mentality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 http://www.bigclubornot.co.uk/bristolcity.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwegian Red Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 For what its worth, we dwarf Rotherham in every way I can think of. Including size of penalty areas (ours are definitely bigger....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodburyred Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 http://www.bigclubornot.co.uk/bristolcity.html Absolutely dominating the South-West bigness league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwegian Red Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 Living away from Bristol gives you a real perspective on how we are seen in the footballing world. We are not even on the map. Sadly... This being the case, Ashton Gate should be a "difficult place to go." But it hasn't been for a few years now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwegian Red Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 I think a new Ashton Gate can make a start towards taking off. ...taking off the shackles? Or the blinkers?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwegian Red Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 To answer the original question - let's create seven categories to make it easier: 1. Huge 2. Big 3. Medium-big 4. Medium 5. Medium-small 6. Small 7. Tin pot Historically, I would put us in number 3, some would say 4. You'd put us number 3?I What the fudge??! Here is how I would class these catagories based on an average of the last 20-30 years: 1. Huge - Man Utd, Liverpool, Man City, Arsenal, Chelski 2. Big - Spurs, Everton, Villa, Newcastle 3. Medium-big - West Ham, Leeds, Forest, Blackburn 4. Medium - Leicester, Fulham, Birmingham, Charlton, Ipswich, Wolves 5. Medium-small - Barnsley, Reading, Us 6. Small - Rotherham, Orient, Crewe 7. Tin pot - The Gash Obviously these are arguable and some could be a category higher or lower depending on your point of view, but I'd put us in number 5 or possibly 6. The teams I have mentioned in number 5 have both player in the premier league! I believe there should be a "Piss-pot" category, too. And a "Tea-pot" one. I would have Rovers down one notch, so: 7. Tin-pot: Fleetwood, Burton, Morecomb 8. Piss-pot: Rovers, Torquay. 9. Crack-pot: (space available and waiting here for Rovers) Tea-pot would be something like a 6b. Some would have clubs like us under another category: Des-pot. But I'm not getting into all that here.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwegian Red Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 Rovers can make it back up to "Tin-pot" in their new ground. The potential is there.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 Absolutely dominating the South-West bigness league. We won the Champions League of potential! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 http://www.bigclubornot.co.uk/bristolcity.html So where are the stinking Gas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manon Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 Surely des-pot was filled already by cardiff...I mean malay-lady boy fc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 So where are the stinking Gas? Drum roll......................... http://www.bigclubornot.co.uk/bristolrovers.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwegian Red Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 Drum roll......................... http://www.bigclubornot.co.uk/bristolrovers.html So, the challenge now is: " Name 32, Yes Thirty Two, Clubs Not As Big As Rovers " It's a big ask... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwegian Red Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 Let's start with two, forget the thirty for now, two clubs Not As Big As Rovers: ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTR Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 The sags are only fourth in the south west,behind us Plymuff and Swindle,enough said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 So, the challenge now is: " Name 32, Yes Thirty Two, Clubs Not As Big As Rovers " It's a big ask... Not that simple, as this site takes all manner of ragbag outfits into account. Not sure about it's accuracy TBH. http://www.bigclubornot.co.uk/bigclubindex.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 Not that simple, as this site takes all manner of ragbag outfits into account. Not sure about it's accuracy TBH. http://www.bigclubornot.co.uk/bigclubindex.html Gotta feel sorry for Yeovil. Not as big as Glossop North End or New Brighton... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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