10 Reasons To Leave The Eu....

[Oxford Red]

Exactly gobbers. And they say Farage is right wing.

Oxford Red would have made a brilliant right hand man for AH, he would happily oversee the demise of the British working class by importing more cheap labour from abroad, then have them whipped for being lazy scumbags because they have no work to go to.

Quite amusing given I am from a working class family myself.

The EU is great.

It's good for business, it's good for employment, it's good for borderless movement of capital.

I remain a huge fan.

[Mr Mosquito]

Interesting eh?

I was accused of bringing up class because I rightly point out the UKIP play on ignorance of people.

Yet those of us who fervently support the EU must be landed Upper class Tories eh?!

Does class assumption only work one way?!

 

Anyway, here's the type of unelected EU pseudo socialist despot that your type are promoting. On your knees to your leader............

 

[Oxford Red]

I just returned to the UK tonight from Milan.

Why was I there? Because under EU legislation the investment house we run can access free capital in Italy as open and as cost effective as we can London.

If Britain left the EU we would lose access to hundreds of billions of Euros at weight cost average funding.

But hey we can stick it to all those foreigners eh?

What a bunch of close minded clowns UKIP really are....

[dezgimed]

Is this person really moaning about having different currency whilst in a different country?

Unless you only have 4 brain cells, ain't a problem.

[Oxford Red]

You realise now that nearly all of the investment banking when we are in London is now transacted in Euros.

Every day I will work on forward swaps and hedges that are in only Euros or Dollars.

The pound is becoming less and less relevant in international capital funding.

The Bank of England rate is merely set for show these days - we fund off the Libor anyway.

The sooner Britain adopts the Euro the better in my eyes.

Me having Euros left in my wallet was a mere reference it highlights the UK's position. Always a little bit different to the rest of the EU....

[Oxford Red]

Unless you only have 4 brain cells, ain't a problem.

I went to Oxford University, do you think I might have 4 brain cells?

[Mr Mosquito]

I went to Oxford University, do you think I might have 4 brain cells?

 

An EU bankster, an EU 4th Reicher, and an Oxbridge educated elitist all rolled into one. Wow, I'm sure Alex Jones and/ or Nigel Farage would love an EU current affairs debate with you.

[Oxford Red]

There's nothing elitist about me.

My dad came from a Kingswood council estate.

I do strongly believe in the EU because it's right for the people of this country.

Absolutely.

[Oxford Red]

In actual fact your quick to slur attitude highlights the somewhat nasty nature of those who support UKIP as elitist or landed gentry!!!!

[Oxford Red]

An EU bankster, an EU 4th Reicher, and an Oxbridge educated elitist all rolled into one. Wow, I'm sure Alex Jones and/ or Nigel Farage would love an EU current affairs debate with you.

Farage is a horrible, xenophobic little Englander who has no place in any national debate.

In fact he shames me with the way he carries on and is an embarrassment.

I simply try to write him off to my European colleagues as a fringe dwelling lunatic.

A bit like Le Pen.

Right wing, populist but you can drive a truck through the holes in their arguments.

I'm embarrassed to hold the same nationality as Farage. He certainly doesn't speak for me.

[Mr Mosquito]

In actual fact your quick to slur attitude highlights the somewhat nasty nature of those who support UKIP as elitist or landed gentry!!!!

 

Back to topic, the UK is bankrupt thanks to EU membership. This Youtube video explains why in terms you should understand.........

 

[Oxford Red]

Are you still convinced if Britain left the EU we'd see VAT removed??????!

[Mr Mosquito]

Farage is a horrible, xenophobic little Englander who has no place in any national debate.

In fact he shames me with the way he carries on and is an embarrassment.

I simply try to write him off to my European colleagues as a fringe dwelling lunatic.

A bit like Le Pen.

Right wing, populist but you can drive a truck through the holes in their arguments.

I'm embarrassed to hold the same nationality as Farage. He certainly doesn't speak for me.

 

Write for yourself, to me Nigel Farage is now a national hero and the political movement in the EU to which he belongs - the freedom and democracy movement - offers real hope for the peoples of Europe to escape the yoke of the despot led EU project.

[Mr Mosquito]

Are you still convinced if Britain left the EU we'd see VAT removed??????!

 

Overnight a huge and unecessary tier of government - the EU dictatorships of Brussels and Strasburg - would be removed were Britain to leave the EU project. The savings would be massive and immediate.

[Mr Mosquito]

Quite amusing given I am from a working class family myself.

The EU is great.

It's good for business, it's good for employment, it's good for borderless movement of capital.

I remain a huge fan.

 

Yep, massive youth unemployment in the EU with Spain and Greece having youth unemployment at around 50%. Lack of border control makes it easier to move stolen capital around Europe not to mention the free movement of benefits tourists and enslaved workers to Britain. The EU is shit.

[Oxford Red]

The youth unemployment in Greece and Spain has nothing to do with their membership of the EU but more their failed individual fiscal policies.

[Paddy31]

[bucksred]

People vote and hold opinions based on how it impacts them.

I work in the EU often, my team is all EU based. Being outside the EU would be problematic for me.

From a personal perspective I'm always stuck with Euros in the UK or Pounds in an EU nation. It'd make life easier for me if we had it as a currency.

I don't care less about national history of the pound etc - what a load of old rubbish.

I also would like us to be part of the borderless Europe.

If we are going to be in the EU and partake in the benefits of a huge trading bloc then we should be wholeheartedly in. Euro, Schengen zone and adoption of it's policies.

Not some island of little Englanders who pick and choose then moan about it.

Trouble some many of these petty little Englanders never get out into Europe and experience it.

 

 

The EU is utterly corrupt, undemocratic, autocratic, self serving, greedy, unable to react to a ****** shower in Spain, let alone the world class cluster**** which is their utter craven inept reaction and totalsurrender to Putins renewed Russian Empire agression.

 

All those USELESS ***** want to do is strangle any initiative, non conformist, business friendly, or national interest.

 

All this on exorbitant wages, TAX FREE status, the ludicrous stupidity of not ONE but TWO utterly pointless parliament buildings, an utterly inept alleged Foreign Office equivalent (Led by an never elected peerage for cronies Brit) an even bigger joke of an EU Army.

 

Quite how the **** the EU Empire will ever manage to defend the EU in a crisis baffles me. Eire, Finland, Austria and Sweden (Although they appear to be changing their opinion in the face of Russian aggression) who are neutral, Germany whose electorate have huge swathes of pacifists, share the EU forces with the UK & France nuclear armed Security Council permanent members, who can and will take action to defend their interests, the Dutch, Danes, Latvia, Estonia and Poland who will also take action if needed. So how the **** do you form a credible military organization to deter aggression from somewhat less than friendly states/organizations???

The same weak links in NATO form the backbone of the bollockless EU.

 

Every European Union government except the UK is a coalition of the least unpleasant options on every single occasion, so everything they EVER do is a singularly useless compromise, usually suiting France, Italy, Spain, Portugal.

 

German & British economic power is loathed by the same states. Corruption is a way of life in Greece, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Cyprus, France, Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary not to mention candidate states of Serbia, Croatia, Moldova, Macedonia, Bosnia Herzogovina. Unlike the majority of the North European states where it is the exception rather than the rule.

 

Oh yeah the EU is dead usefull. It doesnt and wont prevent wars like that useless ***** Barroso says, its far more likely to cause it between minorities all over Europe, and due to its utterly inept system, with bigger less pleasantly disposed states outside

 

European unity will always be a sick joke until GENUINE DEMOCRATIC checks and balances, systems, a system which is business friendly, allows national laws to stand, allows nation states to control their own destinies, and most of all doesnt force a one size fits all dictatorship on all of Europes 500,000,000 citizens.

 

I aint holding my breath on ANYTHING of the above happening save even more stupid diktats and stupidity from those twin hell holes of Brussels and Strasbourg.

 

I am an immigrant, whose parents and grandparents lived and worked abroad for three generations, returning to serve between 14-18 & 39-45.

I have worked in four countries on three continents, and I sure as hell aint English. So Im not a little Englander, just someone who is not blind to the stupidity of the European  nightmare.

 

For the record Farage is just another shitty, grubby little politician on the make, just like all the other shitty little politicians. Lining the pockets. Tasking the piss. Not living in the real world..

[Mr Mosquito]

The EU is utterly corrupt, undemocratic, autocratic, self serving, greedy, unable to react to a ****** shower in Spain, let alone the world class cluster**** which is their utter craven inept reaction and totalsurrender to Putins renewed Russian Empire agression.

 

All those USELESS ***** want to do is strangle any initiative, non conformist, business friendly, or national interest.

 

All this on exorbitant wages, TAX FREE status, the ludicrous stupidity of not ONE but TWO utterly pointless parliament buildings, an utterly inept alleged Foreign Office equivalent (Led by an never elected peerage for cronies Brit) an even bigger joke of an EU Army.

 

Quite how the **** the EU Empire will ever manage to defend the EU in a crisis baffles me. Eire, Finland, Austria and Sweden (Although they appear to be changing their opinion in the face of Russian aggression) who are neutral, Germany whose electorate have huge swathes of pacifists, share the EU forces with the UK & France nuclear armed Security Council permanent members, who can and will take action to defend their interests, the Dutch, Danes, Latvia, Estonia and Poland who will also take action if needed. So how the **** do you form a credible military organization to deter aggression from somewhat less than friendly states/organizations???

The same weak links in NATO form the backbone of the bollockless EU.

 

Every European Union government except the UK is a coalition of the least unpleasant options on every single occasion, so everything they EVER do is a singularly useless compromise, usually suiting France, Italy, Spain, Portugal.

 

German & British economic power is loathed by the same states. Corruption is a way of life in Greece, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Cyprus, France, Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary not to mention candidate states of Serbia, Croatia, Moldova, Macedonia, Bosnia Herzogovina. Unlike the majority of the North European states where it is the exception rather than the rule.

 

Oh yeah the EU is dead usefull. It doesnt and wont prevent wars like that useless ***** Barroso says, its far more likely to cause it between minorities all over Europe, and due to its utterly inept system, with bigger less pleasantly disposed states outside

 

European unity will always be a sick joke until GENUINE DEMOCRATIC checks and balances, systems, a system which is business friendly, allows national laws to stand, allows nation states to control their own destinies, and most of all doesnt force a one size fits all dictatorship on all of Europes 500,000,000 citizens.

 

I aint holding my breath on ANYTHING of the above happening save even more stupid diktats and stupidity from those twin hell holes of Brussels and Strasbourg.

 

I am an immigrant, whose parents and grandparents lived and worked abroad for three generations, returning to serve between 14-18 & 39-45.

I have worked in four countries on three continents, and I sure as hell aint English. So Im not a little Englander, just someone who is not blind to the stupidity of the European  nightmare.

 

For the record Farage is just another shitty, grubby little politician on the make, just like all the other shitty little politicians. Lining the pockets. Tasking the piss. Not living in the real world..

 

I like what you write but......

 

The EU have got the unelected Labour Party pseudo socialist witch as foreign affairs fuhrer - Lady Catherine Ashton - she's enough to scare anyone away from the EU 4th Reich's borders - including Czar Putin.

 

As for Nigel Farage - I think he's marvellous and very clever - and I've been watching him on Youtube for years. The way he takes on the unelected EU despots in the vipers' nest of the EU Parliament is a joy to behold. Fair play to him - he's a national hero in my opinion and head and shoulders above Cameron, Miliband and Clegg.

[Paddy31]

I like what you write but......

 

The EU have got the unelected Labour Party pseudo socialist witch as foreign affairs fuhrer - Lady Catherine Ashton - she's enough to scare anyone away from the EU 4th Reich's borders - including Czar Putin.

 

As for Nigel Farage - I think he's marvellous and very clever - and I've been watching him on Youtube for years. The way he takes on the unelected EU despots in the vipers' nest of the EU Parliament is a joy to behold. Fair play to him - he's a national hero in my opinion and head and shoulders above Cameron, Miliband and Clegg.

You originally posted "10 reasons to leave the EU" by Daniel Hannan.

 

I responded (post 9) 5 days ago and since then you have made 11 posts in this thread. I wonder if you could comment on just one of the points I made.

 

What is wrong with a trade deficit with Europe?

[bucksred]

I like what you write but......

 

The EU have got the unelected Labour Party pseudo socialist witch as foreign affairs fuhrer - Lady Catherine Ashton - she's enough to scare anyone away from the EU 4th Reich's borders - including Czar Putin.

 

As for Nigel Farage - I think he's marvellous and very clever - and I've been watching him on Youtube for years. The way he takes on the unelected EU despots in the vipers' nest of the EU Parliament is a joy to behold. Fair play to him - he's a national hero in my opinion and head and shoulders above Cameron, Miliband and Clegg.

Winding those three useless ***** isnt much of an acheivement is it in all honesty. Farage has a virtue if ou can call it that of appearing to be different to the rest, and he is as far as it goes, but him and his party are no different, repeat no different to the other greedy, corrupt, snouts in the trough politicians who so badly infest European politics..they are all USELESS pointless *****..

 

Europe BADLY needs a Churchill, De Gaulle, or Adanauer in at least ONE of the bix six European countries, preferably most of em: The UK, Germany, France, Poland, Italy & Spain. what do we have Hollande, Cameron, whoever the **** it is in Italy & Spain this week. Only Merkel has shown any teeth, and now shes in coalition with the SPD in Germany, shes NOT gonna do anything anytime soon..

 

Christ I despair, the ****** Russians are setting fire to the East like the ******' Nazis did in the Sudetenland in 38..and what does Europe do?????

 

**** ALL...only interested in Russkie money (the UK) Russkie trade and gas (Germany) Warship contracts!!!!!!! (The ****** French) and heating supplies (The rest of the chickenshit EU!)....the last time we ignored this kind of crap, with in 18 months we were fighting the greatest war ever seen on the planet 50 million people dies in Europe alone...and the bloody Russians were involved with the Nazis then in land grabs, and remain the only European state to expand its borders throughout the 20th century...

As for ******' Barroso and Ashton, God help us if that's the futiure of Europe's peoples

[Mr Mosquito]

You originally posted "10 reasons to leave the EU" by Daniel Hannan.

 

I responded (post 9) 5 days ago and since then you have made 11 posts in this thread. I wonder if you could comment on just one of the points I made.

 

What is wrong with a trade deficit with Europe?

 

You'll have to educate me on why a trade deficit with the EU is such a great idea because I don't bloody know. While we're at it, what democratic mechanism do we have to remove the unelected Labour Party top EU pseudo socialist - Lady Catherine Ashton ????!!!

[Paddy31]

You'll have to educate me on why a trade deficit with the EU is such a great idea because I don't bloody know. While we're at it, what democratic mechanism do we have to remove the unelected Labour Party top EU pseudo socialist - Lady Catherine Ashton ????!!!

You posted a list of 10 reasons to leave the EU, and number one on the list is that we run a trade deficit with EU member states. It seems that you are willing to concede that you can't support it as a justification for leaving the EU.

 

Perhaps, you could support any of the other points that you posted, for example, your contention that the richest countries by GDP per person, in Europe are Norway and Switzerland.

[Mr Mosquito]

You posted a list of 10 reasons to leave the EU, and number one on the list is that we run a trade deficit with EU member states. It seems that you are willing to concede that you can't support it as a justification for leaving the EU.

 

Perhaps, you could support any of the other points that you posted, for example, your contention that the richest countries by GDP per person, in Europe are Norway and Switzerland.

 

Edward Heath's Tory traitor administration gave trade with Europe as a justification for EEC mebership in 1973 - they didn't say anything about that trade being at a huge deficit. You still haven't answered my question with regard to any democratic mechanism available by which the British electorate can remove the unelected Labour Party top EU pseudo socialist - Lady Catherine Ashton. How can she be removed? Or do you support this EU tyranny of unelected overpaid and incompetent despots in high office?

[Paddy31]

Edward Heath's Tory traitor administration gave trade with Europe as a justification for EEC mebership in 1973 - they didn't say anything about that trade being at a huge deficit. You still haven't answered my question with regard to any democratic mechanism available by which the British electorate can remove the unelected Labour Party top EU pseudo socialist - Lady Catherine Ashton. How can she be removed? Or do you support this EU tyranny of unelected overpaid and incompetent despots in high office?

I thought that we were discussing your list of reasons to leave the EU. I don't want to get drawn off topic, if you don't mind.

 

Lack of export competitiveness is a concern but is not unusual. Britain has run a trade deficit for 78 of the last 111 years. Staying on topic, can you support any of your other reasons for wanting to leave the EU?

 

By the way, you might like reading this Government report.

[chipdawg]

Edward Heath's Tory traitor administration gave trade with Europe as a justification for EEC mebership in 1973 - they didn't say anything about that trade being at a huge deficit. You still haven't answered my question with regard to any democratic mechanism available by which the British electorate can remove the unelected Labour Party top EU pseudo socialist - Lady Catherine Ashton. How can she be removed? Or do you support this EU tyranny of unelected overpaid and incompetent despots in high office?

Out of interest, what powers does Catherine Ashton have?

[And Its Smith]

To say she does **** all is ignorant at best and disingenuous at worst.

[Mr Mosquito]

To say she does **** all is ignorant at best and disingenuous at worst.

 

Lady Catherine Ashton is a known EU loving traitor and a collaborator. Lady Catherine Ashton is the 11th good reason that Britain must leave the EU immediately. 

[chipdawg]

Lady Catherine Ashton is a known EU loving traitor and a collaborator. Lady Catherine Ashton is the 11th good reason that Britain must leave the EU immediately.

So in other words, you don't know

Well to fill you in, she has no power other than being able to appoint some beurocrats to some positions. Other than that, she merely represents the EU at a various meetings and prepares 'initiatives' that are then voted on by the European Parliament. Waste of money? Perhaps. Britain's Next Top Model? Only if she's the only woman to survive Armageddon. An 'unelected despot'? Doesn't look like it

[Mr Mosquito]

So in other words, you don't know

Well to fill you in, she has no power other than being able to appoint some beurocrats to some positions. Other than that, she merely represents the EU at a various meetings and prepares 'initiatives' that are then voted on by the European Parliament. Waste of money? Perhaps. Britain's Next Top Model? Only if she's the only woman to survive Armageddon. An 'unelected despot'? Doesn't look like it

 

Can we have our money back, Baroness Ashton?........